Ancient staircase uncovered in Giza near lost 4th Pyramid

This little side note to a larger story really surprised me.
It would appear that recently, there was a deep carved staircase uncovered near the site of the 4th pyramid.

But first...

2008
Supreme Council of Egyptian Antiquities says they found the lost 4th Pyramid; roughly 5 miles from the great pyramid.
They estimate it may have been up to 722 feet in height.

Daily Mail, they found it - 2008

I guess they affirmed this claim around 2016. However, I have to admit that the timeline and press for this discovery seems rather spotty and random.

One researcher wrote a rather amazing post about their tour in 2008.
Gigal Research

Among her descriptions of the site, she mentions a staircase dug deep into the plateau.
There only seems to be three photos of this thing on the entire interwebs...

Right away my eye was drawn to some steps in the distance. As I got closer I saw first of all a square shaft that was nothing out of the ordinary. Then I realised that the steps continued quite a way to make a narrow passage going much deeper into the ground … I was stunned, never had I seen anything like it! I’d been down many entrances to underground structures in my wanderings but never into anything like this. The guide suggested we go down. The slope was a bit more than 15° at first then became steeper, continuing for about 80m. It was almost unnerving. The steps were short and very slippery with sand blown in from the desert but it was pleasantly cool and there was a strong smell of dampness.

The walls were smooth to the touch and seemed to have been worked. Right at the bottom, certainly about 15m down, there was a pool of dark muddy water with some ragged shrubs growing. It looked as if the water table had risen. Looking up I noticed a huge block placed across the top of the trench and my guide told me that the whole thing was once covered with these blocks to make a roof for the stairway. The place had nothing at all in common with the Roman wells I’d seen in Italy, Spain and even in Egypt. I imagine that in the Roman period it had been used for keeping amphorae cool, but this monumental work seemed to me rather to be an entrance built by the ancient Egyptians to access an underground network, an idea confirmed when I saw two typical vertical shafts further on. But why had so much work been devoted to excavating the rock and building this monumental stairway? It occurred to me that it might be the entry to a ‘new’ Serapeum. If you continue a straight line going in the same direction as the stairway you come to the sacred city of Saïs then the Mediterranean.

Another article claims it was found on an old military base by the army.
Soulask

An announcement that seemingly slipped us by, was made recently within Egypt. This announcement, pertained to an amazing discovery made within an area of the Giza plateau, that for a number of decades, has been conveniently been shut off from the public… Although the location is claimed to be a military training base, archaeologists have apparently been secretly beavering away within this remote slice of antiquity.

the base is here:


an 80 meter deep staircase seems like it would have received a lot more attention.

Anyone else hear of this?

a reply to: LedermanStudio

I can't put my finger on it but the 2nd pic looks fake.

This is quite fascinating. Havent heard about the 4th pyramid, off to learn about it now...

Zawyet El-Aryan

a reply to: LedermanStudio

There's been a whole lot of bizarre stuff coming out of Egyptian archeological news of late. There was a guy in charge, can't quite remember his name, it was like..........Zawahi Awass and he was a frequent guest on C2C with Noory, and he was on Ancient Aliens and such.

But he just went altogether silent around about the time of the Arab Spring when Mubarak was deposed and has only very recently resurfaced with new discoveries and such.

No telling what will come out in the next year or so. I keep hoping for the Hall of stuff but........who knows.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: LedermanStudio

There's been a whole lot of bizarre stuff coming out of Egyptian archeological news of late. There was a guy in charge, can't quite remember his name, it was like..........Zawahi Awass and he was a frequent guest on C2C with Noory, and he was on Ancient Aliens and such.

But he just went altogether silent around about the time of the Arab Spring when Mubarak was deposed and has only very recently resurfaced with new discoveries and such.

No telling what will come out in the next year or so. I keep hoping for the Hall of stuff but........who knows.

Zahi Hawass. He is a charlatan and nothing he says can be trusted. He interfered with legitimate Egyptology for years because he wanted to control the narrative about who the real ancient Egyptians were.

He is the lowest form of life.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: LedermanStudio

There's been a whole lot of bizarre stuff coming out of Egyptian archeological news of late. There was a guy in charge, can't quite remember his name, it was like..........Zawahi Awass and he was a frequent guest on C2C with Noory, and he was on Ancient Aliens and such.

But he just went altogether silent around about the time of the Arab Spring when Mubarak was deposed and has only very recently resurfaced with new discoveries and such.

No telling what will come out in the next year or so. I keep hoping for the Hall of stuff but........who knows.

Zahi Hawass is quite a .... 'character'

if you look him up, you will very likely perceive him to be one of the worst. Many consider him to be criminal, thief, and obstructionist of the evil kind.

originally posted by: LedermanStudio

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: LedermanStudio

There's been a whole lot of bizarre stuff coming out of Egyptian archeological news of late. There was a guy in charge, can't quite remember his name, it was like..........Zawahi Awass and he was a frequent guest on C2C with Noory, and he was on Ancient Aliens and such.

But he just went altogether silent around about the time of the Arab Spring when Mubarak was deposed and has only very recently resurfaced with new discoveries and such.

No telling what will come out in the next year or so. I keep hoping for the Hall of stuff but........who knows.

Zahi Hawass is quite a .... 'character'

if you look him up, you will very likely perceive him to be one of the worst. Many consider him to be criminal, thief, and obstructionist of the evil kind.

Because he is.

a reply to: LedermanStudio

Wow.............that's...............sad.

Didn't know he was all that controversial. Never really heard him say anything out the ordinary.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: LedermanStudio

Wow.............that's...............sad.

Didn't know he was all that controversial. Never really heard him say anything out the ordinary.

Definitely.

Years ago, when I began to venture deeper into the information about ancient history, his real effect on research became clear.

Many believe he is behind a major part of the looting and sale of artifacts out of the area.
My theory... I suspect we'll never go down into the chamber below the paw of the sphinx... because he helped empty it out decades ago.

not really sure this is real...

the main thing i remember about hawass was from that show they had on the history channel with him in it chasing mummies, where the girl pees her pants while in the pyramid. and later in his office he tells her you must be punished.

old pervert.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
the main thing i remember about hawass was from that show they had on the history channel with him in it chasing mummies, where the girl pees her pants while in the pyramid. and later in his office he tells her you must be punished.

old pervert.

Actually, she told him she peed in the pyramid because she had to go.

I agree with him on this. I don't want people peeing in the Lincoln Memorial.

a reply to: TonyS

Zahi Awass[ole] is how I perceive him.
Charlatan, thief and liar, amongst other opinions I have of him.

originally posted by: humanoidlord
not really sure this is real...

I'm with you... It's very hard to find anything else.

the description given here really reminded me of the osireion in Abydos could this be something similar?

i bet i could pull one out of the clouds

Zahi Hawass Is a liar, thief and not to be trusted. Like many here, I've been interested in Egyptology for many years. Every time a new discovery came up that looked like something interesting, Hawass pooh poohed it straight away and that was the last you heard of it.

On Topic.

The find is amazing. I fear there are and have been lots of these discovered over the years that we just haven't been told about. With more discoveries coming, this year looks like a great time to be an Egyptologist.

There is still an enormous amount of historical knowledge lost in Egypt or being purposely hidden from the public. The Egyptian government has proven time and time again that they don’t care about the rest of the world or sharing that knowledge.

Personally, I think beneath the sand and behind the lies, there is a lost civilization to be discovered that was obliterated after an earth shatterin, cataclysmic event about 12,000 years ago. Some done but into it, and there’s still a great deal of work that needs to be done in regards to that/those theory(s).

As for this staircase, hopefully we can get some more information on it. I think it leads to something...knowing the Egyptians it was probably a stairway to the dead or a temple for a royal cat or something.

a reply to: djz3ro

I can't put my finger on it but the 2nd pic looks fake.

Got to agree with this.
Don't know what it is but at what elevation and/or distance would the photograph have to be taken to get that many steps in etc....just looks a bit strange.

Not dismissing the premise of the thread or the authenticity of the find but if it is a fake photo then does it damage the overall credibility?

As for the comments Zahi Awass; I'm no specialist Egyptologist, not by any stretch, but I've always got the impression that he's pushing a specific agenda and has been at the forefront of suppressing and dismissing alternative evidence and theories.
One has to bear in mind there is massive vested interest in maintaining current time lines and explanations etc and many in academia could be completely discredited and funding discontinued if alternative theories etc were considered plausible?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: djz3ro

I can't put my finger on it but the 2nd pic looks fake.

Got to agree with this.
Don't know what it is but at what elevation and/or distance would the photograph have to be taken to get that many steps in etc....just looks a bit strange.

Not dismissing the premise of the thread or the authenticity of the find but if it is a fake photo then does it damage the overall credibility?

As for the comments Zahi Awass; I'm no specialist Egyptologist, not by any stretch, but I've always got the impression that he's pushing a specific agenda and has been at the forefront of suppressing and dismissing alternative evidence and theories.
One has to bear in mind there is massive vested interest in maintaining current time lines and explanations etc and many in academia could be completely discredited and funding discontinued if alternative theories etc were considered plausible?

The impression I get is that the length of the surface opening was covered by stone slats. Like a covered roof...

just a guess...