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US Navy Files for Patent On Room-temperature Superconductor

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posted on Feb, 26 2019 @ 02:00 PM
a reply to: yuppa

It is theoretically observed that the superconducting charge carrier mass is inversely proportional to the vibration frequency squared and that the diamagnetism exhibited by the [RTSC] is enhanced with increasing frequency of vibration

Used for the electrically charged surfaces of the HAUC craft [Hybrid Aerospace Undersea Craft], such room temperature superconductors can give rise to very high Q-factors (namely the ratio of energy stored divided by energy lost is extremely high), which greatly modifies the quantum vacuum state energy density in close proximity to the craft so as to generate the macroscopic quantum coherence effect necessary for inertial mass reduction and hence propulsion of the craft (AIAA 2017-5343).

The fact that no cryogenic fluids need to be carried on the hybrid craft in order to induce superconductivity is highly desirable from a craft weight minimization perspective. (Aerospace Research Central, 2019) - RTSC System for use on Hybrid Aerospace-Undersea Craft.

Uhm, stuff like this you mean??

The original patent was from 2017 and this is a new paper submitted this year sometime (since we are only in February, it is really new). And we have gone from "possible RTSC" to "how to apply it to an aircraft to reduce mass and fly in both the air and under the water"!!

Now, putting this all together. A hypothesis (by TEOT, who has been known to be quite wrong before!).

First, back to what to what I saw in 2015. A triangle shaped craft with torus (donut-shaped) ports on each corner, glowing blue-white. The thing moved silently. And it looked like it "had it's emergency break on" as it sort of "jittered" at times. While waiting for it to occult the moon, it went "shimmery-silver" then I could see through it! The blue-white ports were still visible which is how I kept track of it as it did loops around the city from the mountains to the inlet (Anchorage, AK).

Theory time. US Navy and some contractor (choose your favorite but my guess has a skunk logo), built a craft with a RTSC skin as described by Mr. Pais above. To keep things really stable, plasma jets were added at the corners. These are ported and when running silent, they can be turned off and covered. The "quantum mass reduction effect" allows this craft to fly at incredible speeds when viewed from the ground. That effect also keeps the crew from splatting against the back wall when taking off at a high velocity. This "quantum effect" when properly tuned, can turn the whole craft "invisible" by not interfering with light's path too much such that it is not even noticed.

I have answered my own question! At least to my initial wonderment on what kind of technology was employed.

This also reminds me of Tesla's airships that just used excessive amounts of electricity (allegedly and somehow). [end theory]

Now, if you could fly anywhere on the globe, where would you build a spaceport?? Would you limit yourself to just a ground base? Wouldn't you do something like put a "flying aircraft carrier" in the air?

Gee, this really explains a lot of the strange stuff being reported here on ATS!

posted on Feb, 26 2019 @ 05:30 PM

Superconductor for use in a hybrid aerospace submersible craft

Behind a paywall, but exciting to see it in a navy context.

ETA: Nm, saw your link above...
edit on 26-2-2019 by beetee because: Eta: Nm

posted on Feb, 26 2019 @ 05:30 PM
Salvatore Pais is apparently an aerospace engineer at the Naval Air Warfare Center in Maryland, at least according to this
edit on 26-2-2019 by beetee because: (no reason given)

posted on Feb, 28 2019 @ 08:15 AM
Thanks TEOT, for the head's up, as usual. You rock, sir.

Hopefully the guys assigned to you have decided you're just an interested, smart geek and won't cook you!

Also, as usual, I hope all this amounts to something in the cud chewing portion of society.

posted on Feb, 28 2019 @ 09:31 PM
a reply to: Baddogma

Weird rabbit hole I ended up in!

Thinking about the super conductor theory... electrons slow down and then pair up in so-called Cooper Pairs. That is at the phase transition critical temperature.

The piezoelectric effect also causes electrons to flow as a current... albeit weak. As TheKnightsWhoUntillRecentlySaidNI pointed out, it would have to be phase correlated. I would also assume that doping the piezo material would also help (non-material scientist comment seeing that it helps everything else to a point). This is possible with my facil understanding of HTSC.

Crystals can vibrate at a certain frequency so why not at one that “facilitates” faux Cooper Pairs?

Anyway, 30 years of secrecy is enough! If I get “disappeared”...?... oh well! It was a fun run!!


posted on Apr, 9 2019 @ 01:16 PM
This might help (or may not).

Using numerical simulations, the researchers found that this unconventional type of conductivity, which is believed to take place under non-equilibrium conditions in strongly correlated materials such as high-Tc cuprates and iron-pnictides, arises due to a phenomenon known as eta pairing. This is different from the superconductivity observed in the same strongly correlated materials under equilibrium conditions, and is thought to involve repulsive interactions between certain electrons within the structure. It is also different from traditional superconductivity, where the phenomenon arises due to interactions between electrons and vibrations of the crystal structure, inducing mutual interactions between electrons through vibrations and thus overcoming the repulsion between the electrons., March 4, 2019 - Light pulses provide a new route to enhance superconductivity.

I was wondering what to make of this story when it originally appeared.

Good ol' HTSC, the Tc allows the crystal structure to "vibrate the crystal structure" which is similar to what the patent says the "piezo effect" allegedly does.

Then you can think about it some more. Light is an EM frequency dependent wave too. It's color! What if all this piezo stuff is all about frequency? Force locking both types of SC in what would only be some kind of harmonic resonance you limit where it can take place by placing the SC around the insulator. By making the material near 2D like (i.e., electricity can only travel forward-backwards, and, up-down), you get the advantages SC without having to cool it down!

With little other information to go on, that is my best guestimate as to what may be occurring with the patent. Again, I am probably off pulling weeds in left field but that is OK!

posted on Apr, 9 2019 @ 04:21 PM
My brain hurts. I have had too much caffeine (and I was thinking about myself, and there she was, in platform double suede, and there she was... like disco lemonade).

I started reading about things like, "s wave" and "d wave" in various high-Tc materials until I realized that this is still all kind of unknown and there are several different ideas out there. One kept showing up again and again, "charge density wave" (CDW). There is a state called "strange metals" (or "frustrated" in some literature), where it is shown that this disorder somehow interacts with electrons right before they transition to true Cooper pairs. Well, here, read for yourselves...

"What we are doing is 'poking' the system by introducing disorder into the crystal lattice," said Ames Laboratory scientist Ruslan Prozorov. "By knocking out some of the ions, impacting electrons create defects in the material. Both quantum ordered states (CDW and superconductivity) respond in certain ways to these additional defects, which we can measure."

The research, which included resistivity measurements, London penetration depth studies, and X-ray diffraction, showed that the relationship between CDW and superconductivity is complicated—in some ways the two states compete with each other, and in others, CDW assists superconductivity.

"Charge density wave competes with superconductivity for the same conduction electrons," said Prozorov. "As CDW is suppressed or disrupted, superconductivity is grabbing the electrons needed to form Cooper's pairs, which form superconducting condensate."

But CDW also assists superconductivity through its coupling to crystal lattice vibrations, called phonons. And phonons act as a "glue" between electrons to form a Cooper pair. At some threshold level of disorder, long-range ordered CDW disappears abruptly, and superconducting transition temperature is abruptly reduced as well. - The relationship between charge density waves and superconductivity? It's complicated.

It is all right there! These were studying states of SC and looking at all the things the Navy's patent mentions except: continuous application of a voltage through piezo material. Instead, they would "kick" the SC and see what happened. Now, they need to check what happens using a setup like the Navy said. With a crystal humming along providing the "pokes" or "kicks" constantly, the vibrations transfer through and provide the CDW the guidance to get to the open field where Cooper pairs take over. And we get room temperature superconducting!

Which leaves me to ask, "What's the frequency Kenneth!!"

posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 02:26 PM
Having heard nothing since the "announcement" in OP (and digging myself out of the rabbit hole), I was/am still curious about what exactly the RTSC does/is as described in the patent.

Starting with Wikipedia: PZT, (lead zirconate titanate)

There is this useful information:

Being piezoelectric, PZT develops a voltage (or potential difference) across two of its faces when compressed (useful for sensor applications), and physically changes shape when an external electric field is applied (useful for actuator applications). The relative permittivity of PZT can range from 300 to 3850, depending upon orientation and doping.

Not exactly what I want to know but that fact may be useful to keep in mind!

Then I went looking for studies on "polarized PZT" and found this just as a toss away sentence in a study on other ferroelectrics being studied for manufacturing in standard chip manufacturing methods.

Ferroelectric materials have a charge polarization that can be switched in direction by an applied electric field. Oxide perovskites, such as lead zirconate titanate (PZT), are commonly studied and used as ferroelectrics, but they suffer from low paraelectric transition temperatures, non-linear displacements, or limited compatibility with silicon CMOS or III-nitride manufacturing. - Aluminium scandium nitride exhibits ferroelectric behavior.

In other words, PZT is not really suitable for CMOS level manufacturing. But that lead me to widen my search on PZT and removed "polarized" from my criteria. And, ah snap!

Scientists at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory (NRL), Materials Science and Technology Division, have demonstrated that the intensity and spectral composition of the photoluminescence emitted from a single monolayer of tungsten disulphide (WS2) can be spatially controlled by the polarization domains in an adjacent film of the ferroelectric material lead zirconium titanate (PZT)., Jan. 4, 2017 - Novel monolayer ferroelectric hybrid structures.

TMD (tungsten disulphide) was placed on top of PZT which was alternately polarized in a checkerboard pattern; one was up off the PZT plane, the other was down, so the WS2 had alternating polarization orientation (same source).

They found that the PL [photo luminescence] intensity from the WS2 is high only from the areas over domains in the PZT where the polarization dipole points out of the surface plane, as shown in the adjacent figure. Further analysis revealed that the spectral composition of the PL was also strongly affected—the spectra from the "up" domains were dominated by neutral exciton contributions (a bound state of an electron and hole arising from Coulomb interaction), while those from the "down" domains were dominated by negatively charged exciton, or trion, contributions (an exciton with an extra electron).

"Fabricating these hybrid 2D/3-D ferroelectric heterostructures enables one to purposefully design and modulate adjacent populations of trions and neutral excitons, creating lateral domains in any geometry of choice" notes Dr. Berend Jonker, senior scientist and principal investigator. Dr. Connie Li, lead author of the study, further points out: "Because the FE domains can be rewritten with an atomic force microscope and are non-volatile, this enables spatial modulation of the TMD properties with nanometer scale resolution."

So putting this all together in crumb trails that oddly enough led right back to the NRL, we find that the piezo-electric perovskites, PZT, has some interesting features. So interesting, that NRL has been studying "polarized" PZT (hum, I wonder why? /sarcasm).

Apply an electric current, the PZT changes shape, exhibits "trions and neutral excitons" that if sprayed upon an insulator allows the 2-D PZT to transfer electricity along its surface, without heat or loss, at room temperature.

A possible RTSC!

posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 07:19 PM

Holy Crap,
Last week I was listening to a pod cast that interviewed an individual, who was supposed to have just been discharged from the military, that said they were a computer specialist assigned to work with various special forces groups.
Just from listening to how he talked in military acronyms, specifically the little ones about day to day life in the service, I am pretty certain he actually did waht he said he did, whether or not the whole story was true.
So that being said, his story was that he was assigned to a vehicle recovery/asset denial team deployed on foreign soil to recover data and destroy a downed vehicle.
He described the vehicle as being 727 sized in an aft delta wing config, and the skin was blackish CHECKER BOARD.
and the outside of the vehicle was cold to the touch, colder than the surrounding environment.
In one of the crazy AV threads a poster, who is suppose to be in the know, commented that there had been a breakthrough in solid state heatsinks used in "black" aircraft.
The story gets weird after that, involving alien languages, glowing eyed monsters, firefights and TIME SLIPS.

posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 08:27 PM
a reply to: punkinworks10

Nice to see you around! Hope all is well since I haven’t seen you here in a little while...

The guy with the patent for this has others that if you use them together make you wonder.

As far as cooling goes... you get quantum effects going and billion trillion molecules doing the same effort (all rowing in the same direction so to speak), there are multiple things that can be done in the macro world. Cooling is one which leads to other 2D materials in conjunction with others all stacked up.

The sky, both literally and figuratively, is the limit!

Why stop at the sky... ??

posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 08:47 PM

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: punkinworks10

Nice to see you around! Hope all is well since I haven’t seen you here in a little while...

The guy with the patent for this has others that if you use them together make you wonder.

As far as cooling goes... you get quantum effects going and billion trillion molecules doing the same effort (all rowing in the same direction so to speak), there are multiple things that can be done in the macro world. Cooling is one which leads to other 2D materials in conjunction with others all stacked up.

The sky, both literally and figuratively, is the limit!

Why stop at the sky... ??


Don't stop till you reach the next star system.

Negation of inertia is massive breakthrough, no pun intended. 😀 The information in the patent papers and certain odd statements made by a couple memebers of the military, I am of the opinion we have done something really really big.
Like we have sent a probe to the next star sytem big.

posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 08:53 PM

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

A scientist working for the U.S. Navy has filed for a patent on a room-temperature superconductor, representing a potential paradigm shift in energy transmission and computer systems.

The application claims that a room-temperature superconductor can be built using a wire with an insulator core and an aluminum PZT (lead zirconate titanate) coating deposited by vacuum evaporation with a thickness of the London penetration depth and polarized after deposition.

An electromagnetic coil is circumferentially positioned around the coating such that when the coil is activated with a pulsed current, a non-linear vibration is induced, enabling room temperature superconductivity., Feb 22, 2019 - Navy files for patent on room-temperature superconductor.

Patent: Piezo-electricity Induced Room Temperature Superconductor.pdf ("RTSC" in doc)

In superconductors, the London penetration depth (usually denoted as [λ Lambda] characterizes the distance to which a magnetic field penetrates into a superconductor and becomes equal to e−1 times that of the magnetic field at the surface of the superconductor. Typical values of λ L range from 50 to 500 nm.

Source: Wikipedia.

The article also states: No data was included in the patent documents.

Interesting! An insulator on the inside with a coating on the outside (CVD where particles are deposited under vacuum), and can be any suitable material that can induce the piezo electric effect (PZE). The magnetic coil surrounding the wire induces PZE in the material which, according to the patent, is around 50 - 500 nanometers. Once vibrating, the electrons flow with no resistance!! At room temperature (~ 300 K, or, ~ 74 °F/23 °C)!!

As a certain member here will point out, "Does it work"?? Because you have a patent on something does not mean that it actually functions, just that you paid the fee and put your good name on some idea.

But the whole point is... IT IS A RTSC!!!

If this actually does work, and is implemented, then the entire grid distribution (aka, "The Grid"), will go that way! Right now, up to 10% of the electricity being shoved down the line is lost due to resistance (which means "radiated as heat"), and this would solve all of that!

H3ll yeah this is cool news!!!

As I have stated before. In order to bring a nuclear fusion power supply on-line you will need better power distribution and a method to store the electricity. A RTSC Grid and Vanadium Redox Flow Batteries fit the bill. Bring on the Lockheed Skunkworks T-X compact fusion reactor!!

It all boils down to 'good vibrations'!!!


As Tesla had proven - RF is the key.

edit on 30-4-2019 by edmc^2 because: BB

posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 09:06 PM
a reply to: punkinworks10

I have read here on some obscure thread of old and forgotten lore... that we have been to one of the nearest stars and only found primordial goo.

That was before I joined and just lurked! Gee, I spent more time reading back then!

Let’s see. NRL materials has a 2D breakthrough. Lockheed has its fusion moment. And Boeing has a secret “carbon frame” facility **ahem, graphene**. Add MIT and voxels and 3D printing... suddenly “time slips” don’t seem so far fetched!

I seem to remember a TV show about some FBI agents investigating paranormal stuff that featured a black triangle in the pilot episode and one about a MIB where one was malfunctioning causing time slips...

ME! I can’t remember the name of that show!

posted on May, 22 2019 @ 12:20 PM
a reply to: edmc^2

This is about piezo-electric crystals being used as a nano-coating to detect hydrogen. Due to the spacing the, PZE does not connect with other nanoparticles too well (voltage is low), but in the presence of hydrogen the gap is bridged and more current flows (thus showing the presence of hydrogen gas). Neat, but not what the OP is about. But check this out...

"Piezoelectric materials, such as a quartz crystal in a wristwatch, can vibrate at a very specific frequency in response to an applied voltage," senior author Dr. Hirotsugu Ogi explains. Here, a piece of piezoelectric lithium niobate was set to vibrate underneath the sample during the metallic nanoparticle deposition. The oscillating piezoelectric created an electric field around the sample, which in turn induced a current in the device that depended on the connectivity of the palladium network.

Then, the attenuation of the oscillation changes depending on the connectivity. Therefore, by listening to the sound (measuring the attenuation) of the piezoelectric material, the connectivity can be monitored., May 22, 2019 - Good vibrations: Using piezoelectricity to ensure hydrogen sensor sensitivity.

Funny how universe works!

One day you are cracking a joke, the next, you get a screwdriver between the eyes!!

Maybe that d@mn patent really works! I hope so.

posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 03:59 PM
The Drive has a nice write up of all Pais' patents (with a little extra side info like the USPTO rejected the "hybrid aircraft" patent straight off-hand after reading through it because it was "technically unfeasible to generate that much energy"!) which sounds like it comes straight from ATS!

The start with the Navy asking for a patent on ship from some unknown scientist that they cannot find online info about other than he graduated in 1999 with a PhD. Then they tell the saga of the tale of hybrid aircraft patent. Which leads to other 3, including the RTSC from OP. Then, only after all that is done, does the author begin to speculate as to why this information is coming out. It includes the Tic-tac UFO (I hate that name) and To The Stars Academy. Then there are a couple bread crumbs about already having this tech (with a good scoop of "possible"!! so he doesn't sound like some CT nut on some CT site blathering about big black triangles! lol).

It is a good source for information with a bunch of links (like WSJ article), and names all the players. WARNING: It is long, so save for when you have some time!

If you have been following ATS all along, this is already stuff you have seen/read. If you haven't been keeping up to every post about TDL and his "major announcement" and want a re-cap, this is for you!

The Drive (, June 28, 2019) - Docs Show Navy Got 'UFO' Patent Granted By Warning Of Similar Chinese Tech Advances.

posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 03:33 PM

We [The War Zone] have several active Freedom of Information Act requests with the Department of Navy to pursue more information related to the research that led to these patents. As those are being processed, we've continued to dig through the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office's (USPTO) Public Patent Application Information Retrieval database to get as much context for these patents as possible.

In doing so, we came across documents that seem to suggest, at least by the Navy's own claims, that two highly peculiar Navy patents, the room temperature superconductor (RTSC) and the high-energy electromagnetic field generator (HEEMFG), may in fact already be in operation in some manner. The inventor of the Navy's most bizarre patent, the straight-out-of-science fiction-sounding hybrid aerospace/underwater craft, describes that craft as leveraging the same room temperature superconductor technology and high energy electromagnetic fields to enable its unbelievable speed and maneuverability. If those two technologies are already operable as the Navy claims, could this mean the hybrid craft may also already operable or close to operable? Or is this just more evidence that the whole exotic 'UFO' patent endeavor on the Navy's behalf is some sort of ruse or even gross mismanagement of resources?, Aug. 2, 2019 - Navy's Advanced Aerospace Tech Boss Claims Key 'UFO' Patent Is Operable.

Very interesting! The article continues.

In the Navy’s patent application for the HUAC, it’s claimed that the radical abilities of propulsion and maneuverability are made possible thanks to an incredibly powerful electromagnetic field that essentially creates a quantum vacuum around itself that allows it to ignore aerodynamic or hydrodynamic forces and remove its own inertial mass from the equation. Thus, the ability to generate such high-frequency electromagnetic waves is key to the alleged abilities of this theoretical hybrid craft that can soar near effortlessly through air and water at incredible speeds with little to no resistance or inertia.

In the patent application documents for the HEEMFG, we came across a record of an interview requested by Pais and the Navy as part of the appeal process for the patent’s initial rejection. During this telephone interview, which took place on July 10, 2018, Pais and the Navy’s attorney presented evidence that the high energy electromagnetic field generator was, in fact, operable and was a “formative invention in its incipient stage(s).”

That was last year! Which means they probably had one before that!

How crazy has this story become?! Did they announce we have tech that from the ground looks like a UFO? Appears to be in the shape of giant triangle. And has conquered gravity by doing away with inertial mass?? Can we/do we, have FTL??

IDK. Crazy...

posted on Aug, 6 2019 @ 02:47 AM

Crazy is the correct word. What I see here, is US military strong-arming a patent examiner to grant nonsensical patents.

How exactly does one present evidence of an operable "high energy field generator" during a telephone interview?

And how exactly is a US patent is going to stop the Chinese or any other country from copying it?

posted on Aug, 20 2019 @ 09:41 PM
a reply to: moebius

I don’t think anything was “demonstrated” over the phone (was Skype or WebEx around back then?), the argument was that the patent had merit (instead of being dismissed straight out) and should move forward.

TheDrive asked all those questions and more. It was like us talking here but condensed into one article (kind of took the fun out of wondering wth is going on).

Disinfo campaign? Deliberate misleading of our adversaries down dead end paths? A preemptive strike against the AATIP?? They didn’t answer. We are not discussing it here (YAY! Politics! /sarcasm).

Now what do we do?

I am waiting for more information (and either confirmation or proved wrong) before deciding. There are a bunch of people with strong feelings on this specific topic and wish more would respond to an open thread.

posted on Aug, 21 2019 @ 09:05 AM

Why is my first thought that this breakthrough will slowly disappear from headlines into the back of a freezer. With intent to be forgotten until someone decides it is time to make money with it.

posted on Aug, 30 2019 @ 05:43 PM
a reply to: zatara

A room temperature superconductor would change the world. Possibly to the point that money becomes useless (part of tin foil hat says that is exactly what is happening right now with oil and coal. But even they know... see BP selling all of its Alaska operations).

I think it would be too hard to keep it out of sight.

And that makes me wonder why this announcement was made! Just strange...

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