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2020 vote for Trump is dependent on him righting these wrongs:

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posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 09:35 AM
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Paul Manafort and Roger Stone will receive full pardons (regardless of conviction status) before I consider giving Trump a 2020 vote.

Any POTUS who could let loyal victims of a political witch hunt sit in limbo for so long is not one I can vote for.

I think Trump has done a bang-up job, and executed his office with distinction. But "the little people" aren't going to be left behind to pick up the pieces either.

We already know with certainty that anything Mueller related is an absolute sham and a partisan coup attempt by treasonous enemies of Freedom. I won't make my vote contingent on executing the traitors (that is my preference however), but releasing those wrongfully imprisoned is not up for discussion
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posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 09:49 AM
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I think Trump has done a bang-up job, and executed his office with distinction.





posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

You'll get a lot of the TDS sufferers on here wailing against any notion that Trump is doing a good job - which he is...but apart from that I can't say I agree with you.

My preference would be to see Stone pardoned,. He seems to be purely up on process crimes and ones which are simply to do with reconciling what he said in different high pressure interviews.
Manafort is in for things much bigger than that. In his case, i would like to see those who initiated the investigations into him, with no cause other than he worked from Trump, brought to justice. The abuse of the justice system can not be allowed to stand. Crimes need to be investigated, not people.


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posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: JBurns
Paul Manafort and Roger Stone will receive full pardons (regardless of conviction status) before I consider giving Trump a 2020 vote.

Any POTUS who could let loyal victims of a political witch hunt sit in limbo for so long is not one I can vote for.

I think Trump has done a bang-up job, and executed his office with distinction. But "the little people" aren't going to be left behind to pick up the pieces either.

We already know with certainty that anything Mueller related is an absolute sham and a partisan coup attempt by treasonous enemies of Freedom. I won't make my vote contingent on executing the traitors (that is my preference however), but releasing those wrongfully imprisoned is not up for discussion


Do we know that with certainty?

So what you're basically saying is, you won't believe any outcome of the investigation unless it shows Trump and everyone around him to be innocent?

That's the exact opposite of "Deny Ignorance".

Not to mention, your preference is to execute people? Wow. And we wonder why people are leaving ATS in droves.
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posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Denies having TDS.
Shows up in every Trump thread.

Got your reeeeee fix for the day?



posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Regardless, I can't cast a vote for someone who would leave behind two loyal public servants like Stone and Manafort. Manafort, especially, may not be the greatest man or most pious to have walked the Earth, but his actions in service of this country greatly outweigh any procedural crime OR that of lying to a disgusting despicable "government" that lies with every other word out of its bloated, bureaucratic, failed mouth

And yes, Trump has done a fine job. Much better than that half-brain Hillary would've done or any of the self-described socialist losers



posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64



Denies having TDS.
Shows up in every Trump thread.





posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: DAVID64



Denies having TDS.
Shows up in every Trump thread.




Whataboutism.
Didn't you cry incessently about people bringing up Hillary in your TDS threads?
Hypocrite.



posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 10:05 AM
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Not to mention, your preference is to execute people? Wow. And we wonder why people are leaving ATS in droves.


Not "people" -- traitors. Traitors are not people by any definition of mine. And only the key players. Bit players, I'd be satisfied seeing them do a 75 year to life prison term for their crimes against the Republic.


Do we know that with certainty?

So what you're basically saying is, you won't believe any outcome of the investigation unless it shows Trump and everyone around him to be innocent?


Yes, Mueller has been exposed as a partisan hack. His team has been exposed as leftist tools. So much corruption has already been exposed. McCabe himself exposed the sham behind Mueller's appointment, along with their illegal plot to invoke the 25th amendment (HINT: the 25th amendment is NOT for unelected bureaucrats like Rosenstein/McCabe to float around)

And yes, regardless of what the partisan witchhunt comes up with, I still have to guess that any attempt to remove Trump from office will still result in the most dire consequences. I would personally have to reckon there could be an immediate outbreak of a hot civil war in that case.

FYI, denying ignorance would be unburying your head and looking at the MOUNTAIN of evidence showing misconduct on the part of dozens of traitors whereas there is nothing but media-perpetuated (ie: circular source citing, anonymous rumors, etc) against Trump.

TRUMP WAS ALREADY CLEARED BY THE FBI ONCE

For the Nth time

www.nytimes.com...


Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia


In my opinion, Mueller is lower than dirt and his team is right down there with him. Absolute garbage "people" who hate this country and everything good we once stood for. All for this Clinton-invented paranoid Russia BS. There isn't even real proof "the Russians" hacked anything...

Nothing more than some BS boo-hoo poor wittle weak # coughin' Clinton social media messages. Clinton was a fraud and a phony and a worthless POS and you remember that and she was REJECTED in a failed Presidential bid for what? The 4th time? What a loser. What a failure... What a worthless "person"

"HACK HACK, COUGH, CHOKE.. WATER" said Hillary at the debate.
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posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Manafort is indeed, but their case is centered around procedural nonsense. I'll grant you that Manafort is probably guilty of breaking the law. But so are dozens of leftist heros/icons. Until they are prosecuted, Manafort's persecution merely highlights the total lack of legitimacy from the illegitimate tyranny called "federal justice system"

Fixing that, putting traitors on trial and immediately shutting down the sham persecutions will at least be a start at restoring that reputation/legitimacy.

If nothing else, Trump has highlighted how easy the system is to abuse. Especially with the obviously illegal 302's



posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 10:12 AM
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Meh, so you're gonna vote for Elizabeth Warren if he doesn't do that?

There are things I'd like him to do but as you said, he's already done a bang up job and I agree with you. He earned my vote with the Tax Cut and the wall being built, not to mention this amazing economy. Trump 2020 for the win!



posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 10:14 AM
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The 2020 trump vote is dependent on one thing.
The Democrats continuing to act like they are today.

They ran on "trump sucks" last time and lost.

Now its "TRUMP SUCKS!!"....
The same, just louder...
Not going to end any better for them next time until that changes.



posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

Mueller is a Republican, for starters.

I've yet to see a mountain of evidence proving their innocence. However, we're up to what, 37 indictments/plea deals/guilty verdicts of people around Trump in this investigation? Are all of those folks actually innocent?

The amount of denial that it takes to feel this way is shocking, to say the least.

Civil war between who? 24% of the country identifies as republican. 42% of the country approves of Trump. You'll be in the minority in any type of civil war.
Also, wanting/expecting war because someone is found guilty is crazy talk. Relax. If he's guilty, he's guilty. Y'all would be wrong. That isn't the end of the world. People are wrong all the time.



posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

Stone? Maybe, we'll see.

Manafort? Hell no. Sleazy SOB.



posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: narrator
a reply to: JBurns

However, we're up to what, 37 indictments/plea deals/guilty verdicts of people around Trump in this investigation? Are all of those folks actually innocent?



In colluding with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary?

Most likely yes.

And you can't prove a negative.
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posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 10:46 AM
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originally posted by: narrator
a reply to: JBurns

Mueller is a Republican, for starters.

I've yet to see a mountain of evidence proving their innocence. However, we're up to what, 37 indictments/plea deals/guilty verdicts of people around Trump in this investigation? Are all of those folks actually innocent?

The amount of denial that it takes to feel this way is shocking, to say the least.

Civil war between who? 24% of the country identifies as republican. 42% of the country approves of Trump. You'll be in the minority in any type of civil war.
Also, wanting/expecting war because someone is found guilty is crazy talk. Relax. If he's guilty, he's guilty. Y'all would be wrong. That isn't the end of the world. People are wrong all the time.


My father sold used cars for a while and he noted that people who bargained hard and were highly critical during the pre-sale process suddenly became his new best friend once they had made the decision to purchase. It is like some sort of extreme confirmation bias that they use to support their ego.

The same thing appears to have happened with several on ATS who were critical of Trump, the Republicans and their policies (and election promises) before the election and yet now are flag waving Trump sycophants.

No doubt, when Trump is no longer in office, they will abandon him for the next 'glorious leader' upon which to fawn and simper.




posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: PsychoEmperor

No. I'll vote my conscience and give it to either Gabbard or the Libertarian candidate.

It is a sad position to be in as an American, but allowing a farce to go on ruining the lives of innocent Americans is intolerable.



posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 10:58 AM
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You're right. If he's guilty, then he's guilty. Still, I don't think he's guilty. For goodness sake, Russia is threatening to aim hypersonic missiles our way if Trump's Pentagon follows through with the direction Trump's administration is going with Russia. The only "favors" Trump has done Russia are clearly not favors at all. They're long game strategy. Pull out of Syria. Gift to Russia, or a big picture "gotcha" move. Now, they look bad if they don't compromise with other disputes in the middle east which may be more critical or the situation in Ukraine.

Being soft on Ukraine. Gift to Russia, or bait? Now Russia will feel more comfortable going further with Ukraine thereby justifying on the world stage whatever harsh response we throw at them up to and including military conflict especially in light of our compromise with Syria.

Basically, for a guy who allegedly colluded with Russia to be elected he sure isn't doing much for them. There have however been plenty shady dealings between Russia and top Democrats. Point in case, everyone's favorite example with Obama. And Russia is not at all above working to delegitimize our sitting president in order to demoralize and weaken the United States especially if that president is not doing for them what his political rivals do.

But, if I'm wrong and he's guilty, then he's guilty.

In terms of your numbers on any potential civil war. 42% is a large number. Quite formidable against a 58%. But if we're being realistic the percentage of people actively engaged in civil war would be much lower than that. Most importantly, a second American civil war would likely look more like the Syrian civil war. It would most likely be multi-faceted rather than two sides. So it wouldn't matter too much how many people support Trump like me versus those who don't support Trump.



posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 11:35 AM
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2020 vote for Trump is dependent on him righting these wrongs:

The stupid snip Sanders,Warren,Booker,Cortez tweet.



posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: JBurns




We already know with certainty that anything Mueller related is an absolute sham and a partisan coup attempt by treasonous enemies of Freedom.

No you do not know with any certainty.... thats a load of crap.
This is a wish. Nothing in the news even hints that this could be a possible outcome.
Whats the matter with you people... Its right in front of your noses and you still act like your all in a coma. Nothing gets in.







 
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