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The Guardian warns that "online conspiracy theorists" may "break democracy".

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posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 02:46 PM
Here’s what I say to open minded friends: everyone believes in conspiracies, it just depends on which ones.

-Mafia and cartels are conspiracies by definition
-911 official story is
-Russian collusion narrative

a reply to: gladtobehere

posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 02:47 PM
The media should tread more carefully casting aspersions as they actively work to destroy democracy and liberty around the world.
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posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 03:16 PM

originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Jonjonj

not sure if that one falls under "pish" or "posh", I'll get back to you.

Y porque no los dos?

Solves that conundrum.

posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 03:30 PM
newspaper media in uk circulation are all tanking.

lol online conspi...forums can and do hold information not to their approval.

one example, the news of the world---r e b e c c a b r o o k s- mass phone hacking on a grand scale and in my opinion an outsourced surveillance program which possibly became adopted overseas and vice-versa.

r e b e c c a b r o o k s has been very close to a former media-operative/prime-minister of the uk. these connections
and multitudes of subordinates should be considered active.


posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 03:57 PM

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: gladtobehere

How about we stop the lying MSM before it "breaks democracy"

I think it already has. Democracy is an illusion. MSM is the propaganda arm of corporatism and government.

posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 04:08 PM
a reply to: gladtobehere

Not exactly fond of Alex Jones but he only does what CNN and FOX have both been doing for the past several years: Blowing stories way out of proportion without any actual evidence and twisting it to fit in with their own agendas. Maybe the MSM is scared of the competition?

posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 04:17 PM

originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I mean the biggest conspiracy theory just now is Trump being influenced by the Russians, its massive or at least it should be but its not because the conspiracy sub-culture has kind of meshed with the alt-right ideology its became something new. ATS is an amazing example, where are the threads about Putin assassinating journalists, do people here even realise that the Moscow apartment bombings were probably a false flag?

Sorry, I disagree. The biggest conspiracy right now is how the media and "friends" is trying to unseat a duly elected president. Prove me wrong.

I disagree with you 100%

Taxes and debt are the conspiracy.

The media didn't stop being state controlled because Trump was elected.

That notion is insane. Think about it.

He's the gov picked anti-establishment candidate dreamed up in a think tank, due to the negative polling/confidence in the gov.

...and it worked, and the beat played on

Now get out there and pay your taxes, the economy has never been better! Believe me!

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posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 04:23 PM
a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

He makes me suspicious.

Added emphasis on acting like a nutjob.

I had a liberal Bernie fan ask me if I got my news from infowars once, so his purpose seems obvious.

posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 05:44 PM
The Guardian really don't like these guys

“Comment is free but facts are sacred” – CP Scott, former editor of the Guardian.
We provide a home for the comment – & the facts – you no longer find in the MSM.

OffGuardian is the creation of people from different parts of the world committed to the original vision which drew us together on The Guardian‘s CiF pages. We followed with dismay and disappointment the increasingly distorted and tendentious news reporting on Libya, the proxy-war in Syria, and the Ukraine Crisis. Tired of being censored by our beloved, once-upon-a-time left-of-centre newspaper, in February 2015 we decided to create our own platform for airing our unacceptable opinions.

Our small group is dispersed globally, with representatives from North America, Britain, and Southern and Eastern Europe. The site is our own work, and is not supported by any governments, institutions or pressure groups.

We believe in the concept of truth itself — not merely in that of competing narratives — and in the sanctity of facts themselves. For that reason, we shall try to track them down, present them to the public, and preserve them as best we can. We believe in a true free press that (consistently) speaks truth to power. And we’ll be doing our little best to remind our mainstream media, including The Guardian itself, that this is supposed to be their duty. They probably won’t listen, but we’ll keep saying it anyway.

and I think this swipe at CT's is really a swipe at the people at OffGuardian.

posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 05:59 PM
Be wary of this. They're going to use lies such as this to further muzzle the internet. They've already done it with fake news and hate speech.

posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 06:13 PM

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

even the crazy wacked out theories, like the Gulf of Tonkin, MK Ukltra, USS Liberty, Shadow Government, I mean, this lunatic material is bad for anyone to talk about, it could bring about scary things.

And the JFK murder, RFK murder, Disclosure....yeah, discussing those topics makes CTers a danger to democracy.....

SIGH....weren't CTers "terrorists" last year LOL

posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 08:06 PM
a reply to: teapot

Thanks for the link. I did not know that site existed.

After reading a few articles, I like it. I can see where TPTB may not dig it.

posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 10:53 PM
a reply to: gladtobehere

Good riddance! Don't let the door hit on you on the way out democracy

Democracy = mob rule, one of the most vile and repulsive forms of tyranny

There is a reason the "D" word isn't mentioned even one singular time in our founding documents.

Handling certain non-constitutionally defined matters in a democratic way can sometimes be a good exercise of civics. This whole nonsense of a mob believing it has the right to abolish the Constitution (in whole or in any part) is ludicrous and is antithetical to the very nature of a Constitutional Republic

posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 12:19 AM
a reply to: gladtobehere

First of all it's not news it's entertaining. Ratings equals money. Like every other for-profit BS it end's up being a thousand times worse than if the government ran it. Oh wait, never mind. Corporations ARE the government.

posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 01:57 AM
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Cant say I agree with you.

Take for example, William Cooper, the man who predicted 9/11:

William Cooper (RIP), the man who predicted 9/11, warns about public shootings.

posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 03:02 AM
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

And all this talk about a globalist conspiracy is nicely distracting from the real conspiracy people should be waking up to for their own benefit:

(False) Religion is a Snare and a Racket (playlist)


On this subject an amusing story is told about an army chaplain in Scotland who, at a new military camp, asked for volunteers to convert an old barn into a chapel. In the absence of the chaplain the volunteers painted in large letters above the altar: “Scotland forever and ever.” The surprised chaplain asked them to make the sign a bit more religious. They did. The inscription then read: “Scotland forever and ever. AMEN.”

Scotsmen are known for being very proud of their country. But they are not alone in this. For example, English children, especially in the days when the British Empire was dominant in the world, were fed nationalistic fervor from earliest childhood. They were taught to believe that ‘Britannia Rules the Waves,’ and that the English are a superior nation, blessed by God.

In every nation similar feelings are promoted by politicians who know that a strong nationalistic spirit serves their purposes well. But their purpose may not be in the best interest of people. In an article entitled “Nationalism Is Alien to True Patriotism,” columnist Sydney J. Harris observed: “Nationalism means ‘going along’ with a Hitler or a Stalin or any other tyrant who waves the flag, mouths obscene devotion to the Fatherland, and meanwhile tramples the rights of people.”

Too, as the story of the chapel in Scotland shows, nationalism and religion often go together. Wrote Dr. Robert L. Kahn, a rabbi: “Religion and Nationalism always tend to go hand in hand. In times of war, particularly, . . . ‘For God and Country’ becomes a sort of battle cry. This has always been so. [In World War II] one of the popular songs was the war-whoop of a chaplain, ‘Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition.”’

Source: What Obstructs Universal Brotherhood? Awake!—1981

The Catholic World of February 1971 said:

“The Orthodox Church of Rumania and the Communist government have a de facto marriage of mutual interest which fosters nationalistic aims of Rumanians. It sometimes startles outside visitors to see President Nicolae Ceausescu and Patriarch Justinian present together to greet foreigners. . . . both the church and the state are prospering under this strange ‘marriage’ between church and Communist state.”

A similar friendship existed between Church and State in the Soviet Union. In fact, a few years before 1971, the New York State Court of Appeals, ruling on a case involving the Moscow Patriarchate, concluded: “No other view is possible than that the Russian Church is a tool exploited by the communist rulers.”

It is noteworthy that the Russian Church and other Communist-supported Orthodox churches have received membership in the World Council of Churches. Under their influence the World Council has initiated “Marxist-Christian dialogues.” But why do the churches seek peace with atheistic Communism?

Because they fear that, if they do not, their religion will be stamped out by Communist regimes. So the churches make concessions; they compromise. The Baptists, for example, were a “recognized” religion in the Soviet Union. But even their own members complained, according to New York Times correspondent Grose, that “Baptist leaders had shown themselves too pliable before state authorities.”

It is the same with the Catholic Church. The Panama Star & Herald reports: “The Pope’s approach to communism, Vatican sources say, is based on reality and his diplomatic initiatives are seen as the only realistic way to protect the Church and its estimated 65 million followers in communist lands.”

But why are Communist leaders willing to negotiate with the churches and make concessions to them? Because a significant number of their people still are religious, and so by permitting to function those churches that will do as they say, easier control over the people is maintained. Thus, as reported in The National Catholic Reporter of December 17, 1971:

“Cuban Premier Fidel Castro says that as a revolutionary he regards the growing cooperation between Marxists and Christians in Latin America as ‘something useful.’”

However, it should not really be surprising that worldly religion is seeking peace with Communism. It is not a new tactic. Time and again the churches have prostituted themselves to the political powers. For example, in seeking accord with the Nazi regime, the Vatican, in 1933, signed a concordat that required each Catholic bishop, before taking office, to take an “oath of loyalty” to the government.

Indicating the extent to which the church would go, Pope Pius XI said: “The Head of the Catholic Church would consider it his duty to deal with the Devil himself . . . if reasonable grounds existed to support the hope that such dealings would protect, or advance, the interests of religion among mankind.”​—The Brooklyn Eagle, February 21, 1943.

No wonder the Bible depicts world religion as “the great harlot . . . with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication.” (Rev. 17:1, 2) The churches have clearly abandoned Christ, who proclaimed: “My kingdom is no part of this world,” and who said that his disciples “are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.” (John 18:36; 17:16) So, then, if you desire to have God’s favor it is vital that you have no share with religion that has ‘gone to bed’ with haters of God.

Socialist philosopher Friedrich Engels, collaborator with Karl Marx, prophesied that socialism would eventually replace religion, itself taking on religious attributes. Thus, as socialism gained ground across Europe, says retired Professor Robert Nisbet, “a prominent element was the apostasy of socialists from Judaism or Christianity and their turning to a surrogate.”

Christendom’s failure to cope with world change allowed forces to develop that the World Christian Encyclopedia refers to as “secularism, scientific materialism, atheistic communism, nationalism, nazism, fascism, Maoism, liberal humanism and numerous constructed or fabricated pseudo-religions.”

In view of the fruitage these philosophical pseudoreligions have produced, British poet John Milton’s words would seem most appropriate: “Vain wisdom all, and false philosophy.”

Real science, knowledge of realities compared to unverified philosophies and stories

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posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 03:11 AM
Probably because when conspiracy theories come from the right, it is usually idiotic BS that some fool enamored with Trump made up.

I love how the right cries about fake news but are the main purveyor of fake news. It is rare that any story they share contain any facts or as usual have cherry picked words and phrases in order to create a buzz.

I wonder, if the right is so righteous and the better choice, then why create false stories or cherry pick facts?

Why can't you just post a story without manipulating it, linking it to a fake news site, or without cherry picking words or phrases, why not post the truth and let people decide.

The right on here are so gullible; there is nothing that they won't believe and that makes me laugh, watching them get angry over whatever because they just were easily manipulated and usually with a story that hardly tried.

It is hilarious. Keep it up.

posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 06:15 AM

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Lies and fake news like the Covington HS lies, the Smollett hoax, the DNC rigging the primary, the media colluding with the Hillary campaign?

Lies and fake news like that?

Or is it opinionated idiots who think their own opinion on things make them fact like..... oh, all the things you listed above?

Yeah that would be about right.

posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 06:30 AM
As far as I know, democracy is already dead. And free speech is being murdered day by day now.
Those politicians are all just puppets and put into positions of "power" simply to entertain and distract the mass. They can even get laws (which work against us) to pass without our consent.

It's sad really, but it's the truth.

posted on Feb, 20 2019 @ 06:47 AM
a reply to: gladtobehere

I thought QAnon was a LARP?

Now it can topple Democracies?

We've come a long way Baby!

Make up your Minds MSM or should I say, make up our minds MSM. That's your job, to tell us what to think, right?

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