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originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: narrator
originally posted by: MadLad
originally posted by: narrator
originally posted by: MadLad
a reply to: narrator
Take for example Harvey Weinstein. He said such great things about actresses, female directors, marched in Woman's March. Is that decent behavior?
If it was sincere and without pretense, sure it's decent behavior.
He's also behaved hideously. Bad people can do good things. Good people can do bad things.
This, in no way, explains what you meant by the "tweet and said" quote.
Ok. My point was that most criticisms of Trump's behavior largely revolve around what he said or tweeted. For instance, him calling Haiti a "sh*thole" (which is a fact), led to worldwide denunciations of him and his administration. But him commuting Alice Marie Johnson's sentance gets...what?
Why is being critical of Trump such a bad thing?
It isn't. But when a person shows that all they can do is focus on the negative, and often make a mountain out of a mole hill to engineer focus on a negative, it reaches into the realm of derangement.
originally posted by: narrator
originally posted by: MadLad
originally posted by: narrator
originally posted by: MadLad
a reply to: narrator
Take for example Harvey Weinstein. He said such great things about actresses, female directors, marched in Woman's March. Is that decent behavior?
If it was sincere and without pretense, sure it's decent behavior.
He's also behaved hideously. Bad people can do good things. Good people can do bad things.
This, in no way, explains what you meant by the "tweet and said" quote.
Ok. My point was that most criticisms of Trump's behavior largely revolve around what he said or tweeted. For instance, him calling Haiti a "sh*thole" (which is a fact), led to worldwide denunciations of him and his administration. But him commuting Alice Marie Johnson's sentance gets...what?
You're playing fast and loose with the word "fact". That is entirely an opinion, since descriptions such as sh*thole aren't rooted in any form of fact.
But I'll repeat myself again, just because someone does something good (pardoning Ms. Johnson), doesn't mean they can't also do bad things. Plenty of people prop him up for the good things. I've stated on several occasions that he's done some great things. But that doesn't mean that he isn't a giant @ss from time to time.
So, why can't I also say he's done and said some sh!^ty things? Why is being critical of Trump such a bad thing?
originally posted by: UKTruth
I don't need to defend Trump for not getting on with it.
One, I wouldn't anyway - that would be precisely the reason I would criticise him. You know, for real reasons.
Two, he is getting on with what he needs to do, so it's all good.
His tweets don't bother me, though some I find funny. Maybe you should not let them bother you? I mean, why can't you take a tweet?
originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: UKTruth
I don't need to defend Trump for not getting on with it.
One, I wouldn't anyway - that would be precisely the reason I would criticise him. You know, for real reasons.
Two, he is getting on with what he needs to do, so it's all good.
His tweets don't bother me, though some I find funny. Maybe you should not let them bother you? I mean, why can't you take a tweet?
You are here defending him and his tweets don't bother me.
I was just pointing out that you missed what the other poster was actually saying because you think they meant get on with their job when they meant that he should not have let it get to him, taking him to the point that he felt a need to tweet about it.
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Living an easy life makes people soft.
And unfortunately in this world the more money you have the easier life becomes.
originally posted by: UKTruth
'Getting on with it' does not mean 'letting it get to him'. Two entirely different meanings.
originally posted by: MadLad
originally posted by: narrator
originally posted by: MadLad
originally posted by: narrator
originally posted by: MadLad
a reply to: narrator
Take for example Harvey Weinstein. He said such great things about actresses, female directors, marched in Woman's March. Is that decent behavior?
If it was sincere and without pretense, sure it's decent behavior.
He's also behaved hideously. Bad people can do good things. Good people can do bad things.
This, in no way, explains what you meant by the "tweet and said" quote.
Ok. My point was that most criticisms of Trump's behavior largely revolve around what he said or tweeted. For instance, him calling Haiti a "sh*thole" (which is a fact), led to worldwide denunciations of him and his administration. But him commuting Alice Marie Johnson's sentance gets...what?
You're playing fast and loose with the word "fact". That is entirely an opinion, since descriptions such as sh*thole aren't rooted in any form of fact.
But I'll repeat myself again, just because someone does something good (pardoning Ms. Johnson), doesn't mean they can't also do bad things. Plenty of people prop him up for the good things. I've stated on several occasions that he's done some great things. But that doesn't mean that he isn't a giant @ss from time to time.
So, why can't I also say he's done and said some sh!^ty things? Why is being critical of Trump such a bad thing?
That's fair, but looking at any of indexes, whether they be of freedom, living standards, violence, GDP, economy, etc. Haiti falls low on all of them. There is massive unrest and uncertainty there right now. You could say it's not a sh*thole, but I'd have to question your motives for doing so.
If your criticisms are warranted, I fully support it. If they aren't, and are mob-derived, I'm going to criticize back. Why is being critical of you guys such a bad thing?
originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: narrator
Many Haitians would say their country is a sh** hole.
It's odd that a tweet saying this is so shocking and deemed as 'indecent'. Many Americans, mainly on the left, say America is a sh**hole. In fact, many say they don't want a USA. I notice that not many of the people offended by Trump disparaging Haiti are offended at all by anti-American slurs. Odd that.
originally posted by: narrator
originally posted by: MadLad
originally posted by: narrator
originally posted by: MadLad
originally posted by: narrator
originally posted by: MadLad
a reply to: narrator
Take for example Harvey Weinstein. He said such great things about actresses, female directors, marched in Woman's March. Is that decent behavior?
If it was sincere and without pretense, sure it's decent behavior.
He's also behaved hideously. Bad people can do good things. Good people can do bad things.
This, in no way, explains what you meant by the "tweet and said" quote.
Ok. My point was that most criticisms of Trump's behavior largely revolve around what he said or tweeted. For instance, him calling Haiti a "sh*thole" (which is a fact), led to worldwide denunciations of him and his administration. But him commuting Alice Marie Johnson's sentance gets...what?
You're playing fast and loose with the word "fact". That is entirely an opinion, since descriptions such as sh*thole aren't rooted in any form of fact.
But I'll repeat myself again, just because someone does something good (pardoning Ms. Johnson), doesn't mean they can't also do bad things. Plenty of people prop him up for the good things. I've stated on several occasions that he's done some great things. But that doesn't mean that he isn't a giant @ss from time to time.
So, why can't I also say he's done and said some sh!^ty things? Why is being critical of Trump such a bad thing?
That's fair, but looking at any of indexes, whether they be of freedom, living standards, violence, GDP, economy, etc. Haiti falls low on all of them. There is massive unrest and uncertainty there right now. You could say it's not a sh*thole, but I'd have to question your motives for doing so.
If your criticisms are warranted, I fully support it. If they aren't, and are mob-derived, I'm going to criticize back. Why is being critical of you guys such a bad thing?
I still don't understand your tweet quote, but I'm just going to drop it since you're dancing around it. Bottom line, he tweets and says some very indecent stuff.
My motive is that it's a pretty crappy thing to say about someone's home, and pretty immature as well. A lot of people love it. The fact that the person who is supposed to represent our country said something so immature is ridiculous to me. Have some tact. Be kind to people who aren't as fortunate as us.
It isn't a bad thing at all, as long as the criticisms are warranted and aren't mob-derived. What's bad is blindly defending the POTUS for literally everything he does, without question. I'm not saying you personally do that, but ATS in general does, and it gets old. There are so many anti-Warren/anti-AOC/anti-Democrat threads on here, but when someone says anything remotely critical of POTUS (or conservatives in general) folks act like we just tried to punch their mother.
It is ok to call out people for their sh*t. No one is immune to that.
I prefer politicians to say what ordinary people say.
This whole 'presidential' thing is a nonsense.
It might be 'shocking' to you, but not to everyone, so the issue is yours. All your reactions to what people say are your own responsibility.
I am glad you are defensive of your country, though. Many are not - they want no borders and no control over who enters your country.