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Originally posted by TgSoeOh well Long as they have a good supply of Heineken and I have my guitar I'll be alright, ouch and the wife forgot to put that in there( ducks to avoid second boot)
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Originally posted by TgSoe
Well lets see police are armed, kids can't get out and set on the hoods of thier cars in town anymore and I believe beneath a certain age you have to be off the streets. Looks like its definitlely heading that way. Oh well Long as they have a good supply of Heineken and I have my guitar I'll be alright, ouch and the wife forgot to put that in there( ducks to avoid second boot)
The reason for all this is because the actions of a few criminals and gangsters ruins it for the rest of us.
Originally posted by Hunting Veritas
I mean just look at anxiety of some really powerful leaders when they are questioned about "secret societies" in public, you can see in their body language and facial expressions, they scared S***less....but what would happen if they got took to court the made to tell the whole world what's going on, personally I think it would never get that far due to the courts are being perverted by the power(s) that is.
A simple test for everyone to try: When a powerful man is pressured you can see the pressure breaking through in Body language, facial expressions, voice tone, voice stability, stuttering and last but not least the eye's when a person lies without thinking about it you can see the lie in their eyes. I have tried it out on friends without telling them, then I tell them about my little experiment a few hours later I done the same thing with same person and it was alot harder to read the expression so the mind can catch on things like this but if you look close enough at the right things, I promise you can see it.
The reason for all this is because the actions of a few criminals and gangsters ruins it for the rest of us.
Originally posted by Novusordo
Originally posted by TgSoeOh well Long as they have a good supply of Heineken and I have my guitar I'll be alright, ouch and the wife forgot to put that in there( ducks to avoid second boot)
Yeah forget about waking people up and thus trying to prevent the NWO.. just concentrate on getting your beer and guitar ready. Pathetic. Truly pathetic.
[edit on 9-3-2005 by Novusordo]
Originally posted by Echtelion
The reason for all this is because the actions of a few criminals and gangsters ruins it for the rest of us.
Sebatwerk, that's exactly the same arguent that the government uses to take away your freedoms and your rights from you as a citizen. And that's exactly what happenned with the Patriot Act and the National ID card, infriging your privacy rights to the extent that everyone, now, is considered by State as a potential terrorist. Yes, the people is on the process of enslavement, and security is not a valuable reason to justify rights being taken out from them by a bunch of so-called elite. We are not the ones living into somekind of fantastic delusion, you are.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Like who? Give me an example. (BESIDES GW Bush)
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
No, Sebat, this country is not directed by the collective will; not at all, not anymore. This nation is not governed as intended, the peoples' collective will is ignored daily for the sake of the countercultural reengineering.
On so many levels, things are as right as a football bat, and it becomes more clear that there is nothing we can do.
I suggest you not suggest I take medication for any mental illness, as I highly doubt you are qualified to diagnose me. Even if you were, I'd not take your zombie meds; I have no desire to be part of the undead, castrated society.
Originally posted by Hunting Veritas
Tony blair, Donald rumsfeld, Bill clinton, David Icke, Edward kerry and many more.... Basically it's all about acting, Simply put the better an actor you are the higher up the ladder you go. George B snr., JFK and ol' ronald used to be very good at acting out to the camera's and even when people approched in the street these people were especially calm and calculative.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Originally posted by Hunting Veritas
Tony blair, Donald rumsfeld, Bill clinton, David Icke, Edward kerry and many more.... Basically it's all about acting, Simply put the better an actor you are the higher up the ladder you go. George B snr., JFK and ol' ronald used to be very good at acting out to the camera's and even when people approched in the street these people were especially calm and calculative.
You have seen all these people be asked if they were in a secret society?
Originally posted by Echtelion
Thomas Crowne you're right. And I'm beginning to be somewhat worried by the rampant conservatism of the people who appearantly are Freemasons here. Not only they are rebutting ANY KIND of criticism of their organization form ATS members as trolling, But they go as far as treating every person who has lost faith in the democratic process and is being critical in the US government as being looney conspiracy theorists.
Sebatwerk... have you forgot about the hundreds of muslim mens who were sent to Guantanamo and other secret detention centers everywhere around the globe without any legitimate trial? What about these obscure software companies who programmed the eVoting machines at your last elections and refused to let the public access the blueprints of the results? What about Patriot Act 1 and 2 eradicating a large part of your civil liberties
Seriously, what do Freemasons have done recently to fight against the War on Terror and the Police State that's being built up in your country, if they so much work for the good of the community and the "betterment" of people? I don't see much. But what I've seen, on the other hand, is a bunch of Freemasons even if it's part or them) that have powerful positions in the governments and media businesses of the western world, as mayors, governors, deputees, judges, attorneys, editors-in-chief and, especially, Lords that are all collaborating for the implementation of big brotherish security policies and corporatist political agendas.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Everything in our country is a product of the people, including the government and its laws, corporations, etc. etc. We, as a whole, are the enablers. If the people were a bit more intelligent, this would not be the case. It sucks, but it is.
Not only they are rebutting ANY KIND of criticism of their organization form ATS members as trolling, But they go as far as treating every person who has lost faith in the democratic process and is being critical in the US government as being looney conspiracy theorists.
Originally posted by akilles
Sebatwerk, can I get that "List of Un-Evidenced Claims" so I can help clear up some of the confusion, if you only give me the chance.
THAT is the outrage that I am trying to bring light to, without being called a liar that does not back up his claims. So if you would, Sebat, please do what you say I am refusing to do, and provide evidence.
Also, check out this address: 1733 - 16th Street NW .It is 13 blocks north of the White House. It is DIRECTLY north of the non Obelisk, even more directly than the White House. It is the Mother Lodge of the World. Of the Scottish Rite, not regular Masonry, as if you can be one, but without also belonging to regular Masonry.
Of course, this was only AFTER they were made better men, they have since been made dead men, to ensure no further libel is brought upon the Brotherhood.
Freemasons are obviously used to divert attention from the real power, but because you refuse to admit ANY influence, its not something you will be realizing any time soon.
As it is, SOME very unscrupulous individuals use a combination of Masonic service and 'charitable donation' to ENTIRELY cover their money-grabbing schemes, and their exploitations of human labor (the ONLY way to get stinking rich).
For instance, why do men of stature and wealth receive the 33 degree more often than a good-intentioned Mason who gave to no charities, only beggars on the street, has been a member for 16 years, and given his all, but not being a rich man, could do no more?
Why is it wrong that I take the accusations that atleast SOME of the Knights Templar had been guilty of this, and most likely those most involved in the sex rituals (IE. higher-ups) ruined it for the rest, as they say .
So the ones who were tortured probably weren't guilty, but doesn't mean SOMEONE wasn't, in the Brotherly Order.