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Left vs right: You are brainwashed political pawns, tricked by divide-and-conquer strategy

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posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: teapot

originally posted by: MadLad
a reply to: Dwagon

The problem with fence-sitting is that once you quit taking a side, you remove yourself from the balancing act, and you no longer get to decide where the middle is. In a two-party system this balancing act is necessary.


The problem with polarisation is the assumption only left, right and fence sitting options exist.

Being apolitical, disengaging from the process, is a viable option.


Not in a civil society where engaging in the political process is a civic duty.




posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Second link makes no sense.

Considering the cold war blows holes right through most of it's logic, and historical fallacies.

First link clearly states that a global governance isn't about a one government situation, it's based off a list of laws that govern individual nations to follow. Like what NATO and UN have achieved.

Free market trade is also part of the global governance apparently.


In certain cases, globalization even serves to accentuate differences rather than as a force for homogenization. Responsibility must play its part with respect to regional and International governments, when balancing the needs of its citizenry.


Your definition is a conspiracy theory. And your hypocrisy towards it shows. A 'united earth' is exactly what the first wiki link proposes. But you're against it?



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: strongfp




A 'united earth' is exactly what the first wiki link proposes.


But that isn't what we're getting. What is it about this that you aren't getting?

We are promised that globalism will be one thing, but then it turns into a monster that leaves the most productive among the populations of western nations behind. It forgets about them for the sake of the agenda. The "greater good". It becomes a global dictatorship and in these environments you get massive unrest, you get social strife and disorder, you get higher crime, worse health, and more war.

When people see their jobs shipped out and NOTHING replaces them, when people see their so-called representatives allowing foreign people in by the hundreds of thousands to take over every job available and publicly advocating for these policies, you get push-back. That push-back is what people call nationalism. It is a natural consequence of globalist power structures having consequences that cannot be ignored.

This is happening today. Right now. It isn't a conspiracy.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Who is promising this?

Who benefits from this imaginary dictatorship?



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: strongfp




Who is promising this?


Every globalist out there from Hillary Clinton to Justin Trudeau, from Emmanuel Macron to Angela Merkel.

Hell Macron was billed the "Savior of Globalism". Who knew it needed saving but the tyrants who run the show?
Example:
Emmanuel Macron Wants to Be Globalism's Champion. Here's Why He's Failing

Since taking office in the spring of 2017, Macron’s popularity has steadily dropped among French voters—he currently has approval ratings in the 20’s (other pollsters have him even lower than that). Multiple factors have contributed to his fall from political grace—there was the Benalla scandal, where his bodyguard beat up a May Day protestor; then there was the time he was captured on camera telling an unemployed person that he could find work easily by “crossing the street” to a nearby café or restaurant.


Let them eat cake is what defines the attitude of the Globalist toward the average person. These same people propose the Universal Basic Income to payoff the plebs left behind by automation. They offer no other solution other than to ensure their lordship over us as they reap all the benefit of automation.




Who benefits from this imaginary dictatorship?


Those I've mentioned and more. Heads of media giants who play ball with the globalist elite.

Where does socialism come in?

Eventually they too will be absorbed into the global network of governance. Anyone who thinks this isn't a global government structure is fooling themselves:

themarketswork.com...


Globalism – Global Governance. The operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis. Central to Globalism is the concept of the “global rule of law,” under which nation-states cede judicial authority to supranational courts.



Globalism differs from Capitalism in several distinct aspects. Globalism promotes globally centralized control of laws, foreign policy and monetary policy. Unlike Capitalism, Globalism inherently blends rule of law with rule of man. Globalism comes into existence through the ownership of laws. And through the ownership of law, Globalism gains ownership of nations.


To call this free market capitalism is to be willfully ignorant of what all of these very clear terms mean.



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posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 01:48 PM
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Because the absolute last thing TPTB desire regardless of power is 300 million or so truly United not divided. It would be way too much scrutiny on them.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: Dwagon

How old are you 19? This is the stupid garbage I used to think of when I was still in college. There are distinct goals and differences between each party. Also, your ideology provides nothing of use besides making you feel like an 'enlightened centrist'. Congratulations, you are a worthless voter and undependable 'intellectual'



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 03:52 PM
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Sorry, I have a hard time buying this, neither party can agree on even the most basic of things, no way they are working together too hoodwink everyone. Both parties may be doing something like this independently, but together, not seeing it.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Considering the main goal of the US was to engage in proxy wars with the USSR for a good chunk of the 20th century, to avoid war with each other. I am finding it hard to see how all this globalization via socialist take over is a thing. And go back not even 5 years ago and people were still on the 'new world order' conspiracy band wagon.

When you have a power house like China who isn't playing along with any of the people you mentioned, Trudeau who is probably going to be voted out soon, there's so many holes in the theory it just doesn't make sense.
What about Putin? Trump? Brexit? are the worlds bastions of light against globalization? Sorry to say, but when you have people like that sticking their fingers in everyone's business I'm more afraid of them than the establishment of a stronger UN force.

I think we have different view points on the subject, and you seem to not understand that a globalized law system to govern over sovereign nations from being dicks to one another isn't the same as something like what the US is.
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posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: AProudLefty
a reply to: Wardaddy454



So you're not as informed as you'd have us believe.

So you are 100% informed?


Evidently more so than you.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 04:07 PM
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your point would make sense if there were any common ground between the left and the right.

there isn't.

the divide is larger than ever before, socialist vs capitalist / abortionist vs non / resister vs people who accept results of an election.

So the divide is natural.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Yup, reminds me of when if you disagreed with Obama, you were racist..



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 04:15 PM
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a reply to: MadLad
none of the fence-sitters offer solutions. They just point out how so above it all they are because they believe they have the game fully figured out.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: xstealth

Don't forget undocumented vs illegal.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: MadLad


Not in a civil society where engaging in the political process is a civic duty.


Civic duty? To comply with bull#?


a reply to: Wardaddy454

Always, with the demand for solutions! Is it the need for solutions that compels so many to vote? Even those that are aware political leaders soon become mere puppets?

A need for leadership, for someone to tell you what to do, to have all the ideas and provide solutions. No wonder the controllers have such sway when the voter, carrying out their 'civic duty' votes and then is surprised all they got was a politician.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: AProudLefty
a reply to: Dwagon

The media is a tool of the government. Fox News is a mouthpiece of Trump and the elite.

Notice how Fox News, especially Tucker Carlson, always keep repeating the terms, "left", "liberal", and "Democratic socialism"? They are trying to splinter you into seeing the world as black and white, binary reality.



And the left is just as guilty of it. All white people are sheet wearing cross burning bigots. Open borders are good, to oppose them is amoral and makes you a racist. Multiculturalism is something we must ALL accept even though we were never consulted about its inception throughout our society. Need I go on? Its the SAME thing, which totally supports the OPs post.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: Dwagon

Rather the suckers are those who never take sides, and make idiotic claims that "it is better to have no sides at all..."

Many Germans who in their hearts knew what the far left-winger nazis were doing was wrong decided not to take sides...

Throughout the history of mankind those who "took no sides" stood by like idling morons meanwhile they saw atrocities occur right in front of them.

Those who "take no sides" are people who have no convictions or morals to speak of.

Even though I disagree with left-wingers I still respect them for taking a side, even when imo they are wrong.




edit on 18-2-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: Dwagon

Just curious, how does this apply in real life? I know it's a fun talking point for those who are completely ignorant and makes them feel like they're really smarter than everyone else, but go ahead and explain to me how this is supposed to work in real life? Am I supposed to support post birth abortion? Am I supposed to support the right to life? Am I supposed to support a wall? Am I supposed to support open borders? Am I supposed to let them take my guns? Am I supposed to demand my freedoms be protected? Because, see, those things are all polar opposites. I can't think they should confiscate my weapons and think they should uphold all my freedoms, so is that just an exception to the left/right fake paradigm?



The elites on both sides...


But isn't your entire first paragraph predicated on the idea that there is no left v. right? So how can there be elites on both sides?
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posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 11:10 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy




I'm just pro-freedom broseph.

I'll always opt for whomever the best option is.


Isnt that the problem? Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil. I myself known about what the OP has been talking about for a very long time. Especially those of us who are truly following YAH-SHU-AH and his way. (It was never jesus btw, since there isn't any j in original hebrews.)

Lucifer rules both parties, Trump has apollyons statues in his trump tower, hillary is involved with spirit cooking and Molech, yet many people fail to realize both these "gods" that Trump and Hillary worship are in fact mentioned in the bible.

Donald Trump's 66th Floor Penthouse Exposes His Idol 'Sun God' Apollo, Son of Zeus




Revelation 9:11 King James Version (KJV)
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.


Hillary Clinton Email Mentions Sacrifice To Moloch - The Illuminati idol of the Bohemian Grove



Leviticus 20:3 King James Version (KJV)

3 And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name.



Yahshuah was right:


Matthew 7:16-20 King James Version (KJV)
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?


No matter who you choose within politics, you are still following controlled opposition. This is why i remained outside of the left vs right paradigm. Its literally a soul-trap.

Some of us who are awake know what is coming our way. Do you?



Matthew 24:24 King James Version (KJV)
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

1 John 2:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.


The bible is a warning, not a tool for religion. And the world has been divided, and it is on the verge of being conquered by the light-bearer, which is the ruler of both party's and the world.

Darkness Has Blinded People To What's Happening


Do you really believe you are free? Least I am aware of Satans prison and it's divide and conquer tactics. I say this with love brother. Something VERY wicked this way comes, and it will take many by surprise. You may want to start paying attention to what people like the OP is trying to say. It is the truth.

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posted on Feb, 19 2019 @ 11:46 AM
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I agree with the OP 100%. Seeing just how people have changed their views since Trump came around is kinda funny yet very sad at the same time. It's like everyone forgot the history of bs there has been in politics. Now it's Trump is the saviour, or Trump is the devil. Gee aren't we smart?



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