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Left vs right: You are brainwashed political pawns, tricked by divide-and-conquer strategy

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posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: Anathros
I would've agreed until this new socialist wing of the Democratic party emerged. Turning a blind eye to what they're working towards would be a mistake. Anyone that values the Constitution and their way of life realizes that this is not the "left wing and right wing of the same bird" arguement of the past.


You were tuning out so they felt like they had to go the extra-mile to suck you in by creating the extreme right and extreme left wings of the two parties.




posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 08:41 PM
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a reply to: Dwagon


Okay lets break it down.



If you start getting into this whole "left" vs "right" thing, you are really just a sucker.


So your saying that the left and the right agree on how to run the country? Please explain, with proof.




You're letting a divide-and-conquer strategy distract you from what's going on.


Okay. What is going on? Please provide proof.



The democratic and republican party in the US are working together to control you all, and you are playing right into it.


As it has been since government has been a thing. Different political parties that disagree with how their country should move forward.




The elites on both sides are sitting there and laughing about how easy it is to manipulate you, and laughing all the way to the bank I may add.


I agree that many of them use their positions for their own financial benefit. Do you have proof of Trump and Occasio, together, doing that? Or is that just your ideaology.





Good job (sarcasm), you fail.


Not at the moment. I like the things this President is doing for my country. I consider that winning.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: AProudLefty
a reply to: DBCowboy

Oh not the response you expected? Can you explain to me what you think being a Constitutionalist means?


I've been under the impression that leftists aren't too hot on the Constitution.

Namely the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 10th Amendments.

Just curious really since you seem to adhere to the leftist narrative.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: strongfp




Who is going to be the global dictator?


Don't know.




You're basing everything off a literal fantasy, of some sort of shadow government or something.


Not at all. I'm basing this on global agreements like the Paris Agreement. I'm basing this on observations made in France of how the EU deals with citizens who are unhappy.




The only shadow government that makes sense is the US meddling in world affairs.


SO no Globalist conspiracy exists, but the US the world monster? Talk about a fantasy. Without the US global trade collapses.




Divide your population to continue the economic choke hold the US has had on the world for the last 60 years.


The US does not have a "choke hold" on anything. The facts of the world contradict this. For many, globalism has been good and has had good effects around the world. But the truth is that you don't take over the world with bullets and tanks. No one will let you.

You do it through complicated trade agreements, insidious social engineering, and treaties designed to chip away at national sovereignty.

Democrats, who are serious globalists, show this by being for open borders and wanting to abolish ICE. This isn't some fantasy. They talk about this all the time. Openly.

This idea that it's just a conspiracy theory might have held weight 10 years ago. But today you are very, very wrong.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: Dwagon

I am strongly in the middle, I only attack the side on an issue where they are trying to deceive people. I used to be calling Fox news fake news before, but now their actions seem so petty compared to what I am seeing on the Democratic MSM and what is being spewed by Democrats these days. I see some lies coming from Republicans but very little compared to what is being twisted by Democrats and democratic supporters. I think Democrats are pretty dumb if they believe the twisted stuff that is being spewed. I do not know how they got to believe a lie like they have. Something is doping their ability to reason, I think that this chemistry is purposely being introduced into the Western diet and entry level medicines.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 08:43 PM
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originally posted by: Dwagon
If you start getting into this whole "left" vs "right" thing, you are really just a sucker. You're letting a divide-and-conquer strategy distract you from what's going on. The democratic and republican party in the US are working together to control you all, and you are playing right into it.

The elites on both sides are sitting there and laughing about how easy it is to manipulate you, and laughing all the way to the bank I may add.

Good job (sarcasm), you fail.


Sorry, but it really does not matter...centrists or anyone else are and have always been falling for just about everything since forever.

It seems you yourself believe it is all about left vs right...since you seem convinced that is the core problem.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 08:48 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I am not aware of anyone being against the 1st.
The 2nd? Any law limiting the 2nd is unconstitutional to me. And it isn't just the left but also the right. Remember when Trump said to take away guns and worry about due process later?
The 5th? Who the hell has a problem with it? Explain.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 08:52 PM
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a reply to: AProudLefty

Apologies.

I should have specified the 14th Amendment.


I don't see leftists adhering to the due process aspect.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy



I don't see leftists adhering to the due process aspect.

Can you give me examples? Of course due process is one of the most fundamental aspect of the justice system.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: strongfp


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posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: AProudLefty




If I gotta 'splain it to you?


Then you're either too young, too stupid, or too partisan to have this discussion.

Have a wonderful evening.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

So you have no idea what you were talking about? And you chose to insult me?

Well, whatever floats your boat, Jedi.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: AProudLefty
a reply to: DBCowboy

So you have no idea what you were talking about? And you chose to insult me?

Well, whatever floats your boat, Jedi.


Oh I have a great idea, apparently you either don't, or are too cowardly to admit it.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 09:09 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy



Oh I have a great idea, apparently you either don't, or are too cowardly to admit it.

You're right. I have no idea. You haven't given me examples. And I have no idea the point you are trying to make because you are very unclear on your point. I've answered your questions. Then when I asked for examples of leftists dumping on the due process, you insulted me for some reason?



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 09:19 PM
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originally posted by: AProudLefty
a reply to: Dwagon
They are trying to splinter you into seeing the world as black and white, binary reality.


Been saying that for a while. The majority of us are somewhere in the center. This country is not in danger from "zomg socialists" or "zomg alt rights" until we are fully divided. Everybody needs to take a step back from their "feelings" and take a look at what's really going on.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 09:42 PM
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could not agree more

I just love the responses on the first page immediately resorting to name calling of their perceived version of "the other side"
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posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: AProudLefty
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14



And, much of the left is doing the same with calling everyone Nazis, white nationalists, etc. further, they are trying to frame virtually everything they disagree with as “whiteness” or “toxic masculinity.”

You mean the SJWs and Antifa? Who honestly cares about them? The only people who actually care are working at Fox News.

Except now such rhetoric is being spouted across mainstream media, by political leaders, in liberal orgs, and college campuses. I work in mostly liberal NGOs and gov agencies. That perspective is no longer in the fringe, it’s a majority in American liberalism.

I’m around it ALL the time including friends and colleagues.

You are simply being dishonest if you claim it’s only a few people.

The media for two years has been spouting such hysteria.

Also, it does matter because now we have fake hoaxes such as Jussie in Chicago and all these leaders clambering to virtue signal, the Covington kids being harassed by adults along racial lines and then getting visciously attacked by the media getting death threats, etc etc.

I’m happy to talk about right wing issues too. Point is stop pretending the current mainstream left is pure and holy.


Exactly, agree 100%

I'm financially conservative, with some liberal idealism socially, but seeing the media and education system swamped by overt extreme leftist causes concerns me greatly. Think we are better with a balance and can see the scales tipping left into socialistic extremism potentially, if its not held in check.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: Dwagon

Edwards Bernays showed the powers that be how to play the American people like a fiddle:



Art of public manipulation


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posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: Dwagon
If you start getting into this whole "left" vs "right" thing, you are really just a sucker. You're letting a divide-and-conquer strategy distract you from what's going on. The democratic and republican party in the US are working together to control you all, and you are playing right into it.

The elites on both sides are sitting there and laughing about how easy it is to manipulate you, and laughing all the way to the bank I may add.

Good job (sarcasm), you fail.


In other words, you don't stand for anything...But you left out one Party...There's the left, the right and the Pro America Party...As you suggest the left and the right are different sides of the same coin...Fact is, you're pro America or anti-America...Trump is pro America...All those who oppose Trump are anti-America, regardless of their Party...



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 11:34 PM
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a reply to: Iscool

I don't understand the framing of the Democrats as being anti-American. The bottom line is when nothing is done the billionaires win. It's pretty bad when any legislation attempting to bring back free-markets in this country is labeled "socialism". The problems with our country are not rocket science. The lobbyists force the politicians to pass laws creating cartels and monopolies in exchange for campaign financing.

Since Reaganomics it has been a downward skid into poverty for the American worker making the median wage. Cutting taxes on the top 1% and gutting consumer protection laws like Trump did is not making American great again. It's the same Reaganomics that has never worked and has never trickled down.

The facts have a liberal bias:

Purchasing Power of the Consumer Dollar

Money talks! Everything else is BS! In the last 50 years there has been only one piece of legislation that was slightly oriented to helping the man making the median worker's wage. And the ACA has been gutted. Nothing has changed in 50 years. Every year the rich get richer. And the worker making the median wage is driven deeper and deeper into a poverty wage.

Don't tell me MSNBC is left wing or liberal. I will believe that when I hear MSNBC is organizing workers to strike for livable wages. If you want TRUE left wing politics, go to this site:

Truth Out .org

Nothing on corporate owned media outlets is left wing. Money talks. Everything else is meaningless BS for entertainment, ratings, and making money by creating false outrage.


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