How Does a Vegan Reconcile Being Pro-Abortion?

a reply to: Teikiatsu

You answered yes without explaining why.

It has not committed anything because it is not conscious. It doesn't even have the ability to be aware of itself and feel things. It warrants nothing.

a reply to: Metallicus

Easy , Most of them are Not Cannibals , and don't Eat their Own ......

Nobody is pro-abortion.

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a reply to: Metallicus

This will cut down the number of abortions in this country:

Campus vending machines offer emergency contraception without the stigma

Snip- weird double post that carried over from page 2.

Nothing worse than someone who hates vegans. It's like you're offended that a vegan feels animals shouldn't suffer unnecessarily.

Somehow we vegans are making you angry about abortion issues and your morning eggs...

Just pathetic dude...

a reply to: Drucifer

I can't believe people even use that argument.. If you compare plants being cut, to that of a dog being cut then you are a sociopath with no empathy...

Sociopaths and abortion activists hate vegans....

For f!cks sake...

My fiancee brought a few (6 others aside from myself and my fiancee) of the activist friends over after they volunteered at a farm earlier, so I proposed the question. Seems to be fairly split down the middle. Pretty much all agreed, even the pro-lifers, that in the cases where the baby is going to be severely deformed/life risks are involved that the choice should be made to follow through with the birth or not.

I'll keep asking throughout the week and report back here, but I'm assuming I'll get the same results across the board.

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: Drucifer

I can't believe people even use that argument.. If you compare plants being cut, to that of a dog being cut then you are a sociopath with no empathy...

Sociopaths and abortion activists hate vegans....

For f!cks sake...

I suppose the question would have more merit if it weren't coming from a strictly argumentative point, but I've come to view it as quite the weak "Gotcha!" point of view.

originally posted by: blueman12
Nothing worse than someone who hates vegans. It's like you're offended that a vegan feels animals shouldn't suffer unnecessarily.

Somehow we vegans are making you angry about abortion issues and your morning eggs...

Just pathetic dude...

Lol

And you think I’m the angry one?

originally posted by: Annee
Stereotyping vegetarians?

No, he's stereotyping vegans.

a reply to: Drucifer

I'm not the OP, but I'd certainly be interested in how real-world vegans reply, or if they're willing to reply at all. And I'm sure I'm not the only person reading this thread who would be.

originally posted by: norhoc
a reply to: Metallicus


Here is another quandry for you.. Most libs that are pro abortion are against capital punishments

THAT I will never understand. Nor the opposite--that a majority of pro-life people are also pro-capital punishment. Both make me scratch my head and think, "Wtf???"

originally posted by: blueman12
Nothing worse than someone who hates vegans. It's like you're offended that a vegan feels animals shouldn't suffer unnecessarily.

Somehow we vegans are making you angry about abortion issues and your morning eggs...

Just pathetic dude...

You could show him all vegans don't fit his stereotype by posting a thoughtful, civil answer the somewhat rantish OP. You say "we vegans," implying you're a vegan; and even if you're not pro-choice yourself surely some in your circle are. How DO pro-choice vegans balance these two opposing beliefs? I ask this with all due respect, not sarcastically or judgmentally. I'm not a rapid pro-lifer trying to play "gotcha" (nor am I a rabid pro-choicer either); I'm honestly curious.

a reply to: riiver

a majority of pro-life people are also pro-capital punishment

Welcome to the paradox of the human race.

a reply to: vonclod

Maybe a better argument is this. If a woman who is pregnant...say...8 months is allowed to terminate the pregnancy, why shouldn't the parent of an 8 month old child be allowed to do the same? Yes...I understand that the baby is "born" but the baby was viable at 8 months in the womb.

I'd like to hear the argument for the differences. I don't see any.

To be fair...I'm pro-choice but there needs to be a time limit or infant-maturity-limit of say 20 weeks. This "until birth" crap is not only creepy, but down right evil.

a reply to: AProudLefty

I am pro-choice and pro-capital-punishment. There are times when the best choice for something living...is for it to die.

a reply to: QuittingHeaven

There are times when the best choice for something living...is for it to die.

That's the conundrum, isn't it?

originally posted by: Tempter

So, you think that there is some magical, imaginary barrier to life outside the womb?
How foolish.
Just what is moving, and growing, and thinking and feeling inside the womb then? Is it the undead?
No, it's clearly life itself.

It is a *life form* unable to exist outside of its environment .......

Neither science or medicine has yet been able to solve that!

So not so foolish, there is a "magical imaginary barrier to life outside the womb"

Liberals love to imagine some magical demarcation point between life in the womb and life outside the womb. It's just a different stage, like the tadpole, which are not birthed, btw.
Liberals just can't win this battle. Its alive in the womb. Period.

^^^^ ^^^^ There IS a "magical demarcation point between life in the

womb and life outside the womb"

Its called 24 weeks gestation