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“Right, is anyone currently working on getting this piece of [snip] CancerResearchUK advert removed from everywhere? Is there something I can sign? How the [effing eff] is this okay?” (profanity removed).
Tacos are highly processed foods too
originally posted by: ClovenSky
a reply to: crayzeed
And that is another good point. Does our medical establishment actually understand what is healthy for us? What if their theories actually make things worse? Then you add in their benevolent pharmaceuticals they believe will help you. I guess if their motivation were profits and their own bottom line, the advice they give makes complete sense.
originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: rickymouse
Tacos are highly processed foods too
I think it depends on what kind of tacos you get. Taco bell sure, those are probably almost not even considered food. But some taco joins sell a solid taco that seems healthy (at least to me)
the public would not only have the power but also the moral right to regulate how people live.
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
I ran an experiment on my insurance company years ago. I called my insurance provider and asked them if they covered any weight loss programs, surgery, health clubs, diet plans, etc. They said, "Weight is purely cosmetic and falls in the elective category. We do not cover elective surgeries or treatments since they are not medically necessary." I said ok and hung up. Then I called the 800 number for the same provider and told them I wanted to buy a health insurance policy. The guy on the phone was all too happy to sell me one. Until I told him I was 100 pounds overweight. (I'm not...lol) He was silent for a minute then said, "I'm sorry but we can't insure you. Your weight is a huge health risk. I could offer you a policy, but I would have to charge you so much that there is probably no way you could afford it."
I told him that I already had insurance with his company and that I wanted to try some medical interventions for weight loss. He immediately jumped to the other script saying weight loss is cosmetic and not covered. I reminded him that he just finished telling me that my weight was a huge health risk and asked him at what point in the conversation that health risk changed into a cosmetic issue. He answered, "When you said you already have insurance."
I am all for insurance companies making a decision about weight and sticking to it. As long as they are prevented from playing both sides of the fence. If weight is cosmetic then don't try to charge me more because of my looks. If weight is a health issue then cover its treatment. One or the other. No more of this both sides of the fence bullsh1t.
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Edumakated
Higher premiums are not justified. Skinny people get sick too. And not all obese people become diabetic or have complications secondary to their weight. I just lost a friend who was athletic her entire life, except for the times she was fighting five different kinds of cancer she contracted. She eventually lost that battle, after 17 years of fighting. Her medical bills were astronomical and weight had nothing to do with it. You can't assume just because someone is thin they will be healthy any more than you can assume that someone who is overweight will be sick. Its just another scam from insurance companies.
Obesity is the last frontier in tolerable prejudices. Whereas discrimination based on age, race, religion, sex and other protected characteristics is illegal, federal law (and most state and local laws) does not make it illegal to discriminate against people based on their weight.
This means that if an employer doesn’t want to hire overweight people or a landlord only rents property to the thin-bodied, there is no redress.
More than half of people (61 percent) see no harm in making negative remarks about a person’s weight.
Although overweight andobesity affect two-thirds of Americans, the public is as troubled by obese people
All of these manifestations of fat stigma not only hurt emotionally and psychologically—increasing the risk of depression, body dissatisfaction and low self-esteem—but they also contribute to the problem of obesity itself.
Arguing “it’s for their own good,” some people use blame and shame in an attempt to motivate obese individuals to lose weight. We know this doesn’t work. If it did, as stigma increases obesity would decrease. Instead, as obesity rates have risen, weight discrimination has also increased by 66 percent in the past decade.
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Edumakated
Higher premiums are not justified. Skinny people get sick too. And not all obese people become diabetic or have complications secondary to their weight. I just lost a friend who was athletic her entire life, except for the times she was fighting five different kinds of cancer she contracted. She eventually lost that battle, after 17 years of fighting. Her medical bills were astronomical and weight had nothing to do with it. You can't assume just because someone is thin they will be healthy any more than you can assume that someone who is overweight will be sick. Its just another scam from insurance companies.
Insurance is about statistics. Fat people are far more likely to have health problems. Yes, skinny people get sick too but there is a higher correlation with weight.
We can all point to exceptions but that does not change the statistical reality.
Fat people should pay higher premiums as they will most likely have higher claims for health issues.
originally posted by: riiver
a reply to: Bluntone22
Ha. The same Amy Shumer who had a cow that CancerUK dared point out the links between obesity and cancer? Who had this to say about that campaign?
“Right, is anyone currently working on getting this piece of [snip] CancerResearchUK advert removed from everywhere? Is there something I can sign? How the [effing eff] is this okay?” (profanity removed).
Link to my article about this
But body-positivity activists are up in arms. They say the posters—intended to highlight a very real health risk—are nothing more than fat-shaming and they’re calling for an end to the campaign. One of the most outspoken, comedienne Sofie Hagen, started a social media firestorm when she wrote on Twitter:
“Right, is anyone currently working on getting this piece of [snip] CancerResearchUK advert removed from everywhere? Is there something I can sign? How the [effing eff] is this okay?” (profanity removed).
She continued: “What your campaign is doing is so incredibly damaging, that I can’t even begin to describe it in only 280 characters … there is no excuse for you to have this campaign up.”
originally posted by: Drucifer
originally posted by: riiver
a reply to: Bluntone22
Ha. The same Amy Shumer who had a cow that CancerUK dared point out the links between obesity and cancer? Who had this to say about that campaign?
“Right, is anyone currently working on getting this piece of [snip] CancerResearchUK advert removed from everywhere? Is there something I can sign? How the [effing eff] is this okay?” (profanity removed).
Link to my article about this
Uh, that article doesn't mention Amy Schumer. You sure it's your article?
But body-positivity activists are up in arms. They say the posters—intended to highlight a very real health risk—are nothing more than fat-shaming and they’re calling for an end to the campaign. One of the most outspoken, comedienne Sofie Hagen, started a social media firestorm when she wrote on Twitter:
“Right, is anyone currently working on getting this piece of [snip] CancerResearchUK advert removed from everywhere? Is there something I can sign? How the [effing eff] is this okay?” (profanity removed).
She continued: “What your campaign is doing is so incredibly damaging, that I can’t even begin to describe it in only 280 characters … there is no excuse for you to have this campaign up.”