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originally posted by: BoscoMoney
a reply to: Toothache
Naw, this is The President doing what he was elected to do. The fact that you dont like that is IRRELEVANT.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Toothache
The problem is, this isn't even close to a national emergency. It's Trump being a bully and baby to get what he wants.
Can we not say the same thing for Nancy and Chuck being bullies and babies in not doing what they should because they are worried about 2020? They are forcing Trump to do something they have the power to prevent, and some how that is OK with you...
originally posted by: Emerys
I had no idea Putin was running ATS website now.
originally posted by: Toothache
LOL @ saying they are FORCING Trump. Normally when a president makes a law or needs to appropriate funds, he goes through congress. The fact that he FAILED at that isn't on the democrats. By this logic any president should just declare national emergency any time he wants something congress doesn't agree with. It's stupid, and the law is meant for REAL emergencies. The border doesn't qualify.
That doesn't mean the president can't be an idiot and make the wrong call. I know damn well he's got the power to do it, but it's not a real emergency by a long shot.
Imagine the insanity if Obama shut down the government and declared national emergency over mass shootings? Y'all would be saying the same thing.
originally posted by: watchandwait410
Oh I forgot to say that what if there is a prodigy or a Einstein like person trying to cross?
originally posted by: Dfairlite
Obama said "hey guys, stop arresting so many people"
ICE did as commanded
Obama touted "border crossings are down, we are detaining fewer people than ever!"
Idiots say "Obama fixed illegal border crossings! yay!"
It's really simple, when you stop arresting people, you have fewer detainments. Can you really not grasp that?
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Toothache
LOL @ saying they are FORCING Trump. Normally when a president makes a law or needs to appropriate funds, he goes through congress. The fact that he FAILED at that isn't on the democrats. By this logic any president should just declare national emergency any time he wants something congress doesn't agree with. It's stupid, and the law is meant for REAL emergencies. The border doesn't qualify.
So you don't deny the left is only doing this as a 2020 reason? The funny part is when Obama did NE against the cartels, that is still active, where was the emergency for that one? The funny part is Trump is just piggybacking that one, and if you want to get really hysterical Obama signed into law almost super powers for the President in these cases with the idea Hillary was going to win.
So what we have is a serious problem on the border that Trump is using parts of an Obama NE about the cartel to support his and he basically has all the power to do it.
Thanks Obama!!
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Toothache
That doesn't mean the president can't be an idiot and make the wrong call. I know damn well he's got the power to do it, but it's not a real emergency by a long shot.
That is your opinion, which, if combined with $1.00, might buy you a Coke. That's if Cokes cost $1.00.
The law states that only one opinion matters, and it's the President
originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: Toothache
How many Illegal Aliens now reside in the U.S.?
It's amazing how well we can track how many illegals we don't catch and how much drugs we don't intercept on the border isn't it?
originally posted by: Toothache
I did not even like Obama. What Obama did does not excuse what Trump is doing today. That's the biggest fallacy going, where people who disagree with Trump always get, "but Obama did X..." It's irrelevant what Obama did. I'm talking about what Trump did.