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‘Digisexuals’ demand HUMAN RIGHTS enshrined by UN to have sex with AI robots

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posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: InTheLight




As of this point in time, they are machines operating on the programming we allow them to operate on.


AI is a self-learning technology.

As explained already, you are limiting your view of AI to Narrow AI.

The concern is for broad AI. Both of which are being developed now. Broad AI isn't very sophisticated right now. But it will be. When it is it will become far more than the sum of its parts.

Human beings are made up of trillions of little dead things that have come together to form trillions of living cells that have come together to form you. We are not the sum of our parts either. Our achievements in this existence are examples of this.



Self-learning with this AI will be done within certain parameters, those being exclusively related to sexual performance as its primary purpose and base from which to learn; it will never question that purpose because it won't be programmed to question it's purpose.


For the love of god go read up on broad vs. narrow AI and THEN comment. I'm tired of repeating myself to you.


Maybe it's time for you to do some reading.

"Many experts say we're missing key building blocks to create AGI"




All of Ford’s interviewees noted the limitations of current AI systems and mentioned key skills they’ve yet to master. These include transfer learning, where knowledge in one domain is applied to another, and unsupervised learning, where systems learn without human direction. (The vast majority of machine learning methods currently rely on data that has been labeled by humans, which is a serious bottleneck for development.)

Interviewees also stressed the sheer impossibility of making predictions in a field like artificial intelligence where research has come in fits and spurts and where key technologies have only reached their full potential decades after they were first discovered.


www.theverge.com...




posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: ClovenSky




No real discussion or attempts to understand each other, but just attack attack attack.


You won't even read the sources provided.

How are we supposed to have a discussion when the people who know are being ignored and even derided by the people who don't? And then you want your opinion on the matter to be treated with equal gravitas?

Seriously?



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight

Yes I fully understand that we are not there TODAY.

Keep up. That's not the discussion we're having.



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: UncleTomahawk




Authoritarian to the BONE.


You're accusing me of being an authoritarian because I don't believe we should lay the groundwork for abusing an intelligence whose stewardship we're entirely responsible for?

I don't think this is the conversation for you.


Yep i think you are bad to the bone!


Just wait until them robots start running round and acting out all the porno they have stored in their files. You gotta keep em in line.



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Woodcarver




How many AI programs have you written?


Sorry, not playing your game. You can't discredit facts like this.

Try your logical fallacies on someone else.


What logical fallacy have i commited? They all have names. Which one did i do?

You are expertly performing an argument from authority.
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posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: Woodcarver

Sorry I'm not playing your games anymore. I gave it a shot, but you want to argue like a child.



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:28 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: InTheLight

Yes I fully understand that we are not there TODAY.

Keep up. That's not the discussion we're having.


It most certainly is relevant to the discussion, in regards to the human rights of people using AI machines any which way they choose because said machines are basically tools.



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Well, to be fair, it appears the original article was on a humans relationship with a sex bot. They stuck the words AI in there which for this article, could have been left out completely. Then it morphed into if AI is sentient or not and here we are.

Where did that giant leap from sex bots to AI being alive in the same sense we are come into play?



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight

Sorry, but you haven't even bothered to understand the context here. It took like 4 posts to get you to even look up the differences between narrow and broad AI.

But now you want to lecture me on the implications you haven't even bothered to look up before now? I am, by education, a technologist. This is literally my bread and butter.



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: ClovenSky




Where did that giant leap from sex bots to AI being alive in the same sense we are come into play?


At the mention of AI.

I agree there is a difference between basic robotics and programming and AI. Therein lies the issue I have with this.



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn


Are you a student of Professor David Kyle Johnson? I ask because he gave a Great Courses lesson on Sci-Phi: Science Fiction as Philosophy. In one of the chapters the discussion of AI is topic;
Synopsis of first AI lesson:

Sentient machines have been a staple of sci-fi for decades. Although here you will focus on a few key stories, you will also take a look at the long history of intelligent machines in film and TV—as well as get a glimpse into our very possible future—examining the ways we conceive of the mind and the implications of artificial intelligence. Machines can calculate, but could they one day be sentient?

And of second AI lesson;

Science fiction has always been fascinated by the possibilities of artificial intelligence, with many storytellers focusing on the dangers of sentient machines. But human predictions of the future are often inaccurate, so here you will explore arguments both for and against the creation of AI through the film Transcendence, as well as through other iconic stories.


The important jest of it all this is at what point is AI a species and desevering of rights under the UN? This seems to be the same path of logic that you are presenting here. It's an interesting point of view that should be explored, but in regards to the topic of the thread I'm not sure the grand points you're making are warrented. AI hasn't gotten any further than the level of a 4 year old, and robotics are still trying very hard to get a functionally autonomous trashcan (ie R2D2) working, much less a human styled unit that function in a human like manner. There have been some movement in this area of research, but it's a slow moving progress at best. The people this article are ore then likely just trying to get a liberal claim for sexuality on a global scale then what exists now. The use of these "Digisexuals" seems like just a flash point for their cause more than a justification for it.



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:34 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: InTheLight

Sorry, but you haven't even bothered to understand the context here. It took like 4 posts to get you to even look up the differences between narrow and broad AI.

But now you want to lecture me on the implications you haven't even bothered to look up before now? I am, by education, a technologist. This is literally my bread and butter.



I offered you some good reading by the experts (are you an expert?), did you bother to read it?



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:38 PM
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So what if i find an empty planet and create a bunch of organic robots can i have my way with them if i choose? If they try to get all uppity can i cull out the bad ones and continue to have my fun? If i find a way for them to reproduce could i use some of them for spare parts? What about labor? Can i make em work for me?

I could just program them for the task i choose and have different roles for them to play. I could even hide a sub conscious control tech that allowed for the ability to have some in control and some smarter than others.

I bet they would likely get all uppity on me and try to claim i was not real.



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: Guyfriday




The people this article are ore then likely just trying to get a liberal claim for sexuality on a global scale then what exists now. The use of these "Digisexuals" seems like just a flash point for their cause more than a justification for it.


Certainly that makes sense from a sociopolitical standpoint.

I am not a student of Professor Johnson, but I also am not coming at this from a popular culture standpoint. Sci-fi isn't really coloring my view of this. It's the research being done currently in terms of making AI more RELATABLE than it is now.

Think for a moment of what it means to have a machine with the intellectual capacity of a 4 year old child. This isn't the same as saying that this is a 4 year old child. But it is an implication for how we should proceed going forward.



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: dug88




Computers function by performing operations on data stored in memory represented by the electrical charge in a capacitor.


You need a bit more education in digital electronics.


No dude...

computer.howstuffworks.com...




Similar to a microprocessor, a memory chip is an integrated circuit (IC) made of millions of transistors and capacitors. In the most common form of computer memory, dynamic random access memory (DRAM), a transistor and a capacitor are paired to create a memory cell, which represents a single bit of data. The capacitor holds the bit of information -- a 0 or a 1 (see How Bits and Bytes Work for information on bits). The transistor acts as a switch that lets the control circuitry on the memory chip read the capacitor or change its state.

A capacitor is like a small bucket­ that is able to store electrons. To store a 1 in the memory cell, the bucket is filled with electrons. 



hackernoon.com...


CPU is the heart and/or the brain of a computer. It executes the instructions that are provided to it. It’s main job is to perform arithmetic and logical operations and orchestrate the instructions together. 


That is literally how every single computer works.
Having written my own virtual machine and assembly language, i'm very well aware of how computers work.
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posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:42 PM
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originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
So what if i find an empty planet and create a bunch of organic robots can i have my way with them if i choose? If they try to get all uppity can i cull out the bad ones and continue to have my fun? If i find a way for them to reproduce could i use some of them for spare parts? What about labor? Can i make em work for me?

I could just program them for the task i choose and have different roles for them to play. I could even hide a sub conscious control tech that allowed for the ability to have some in control and some smarter than others.

I bet they would likely get all uppity on me and try to claim i was not real.


At that point, your human rights will need to be protected.



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:43 PM
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Fascinating reading. One question that I have is if someone else's sex bot rapes, molests, or sexual harasses me; who would be at fault? The sexbot? The owner? Or the programmer?

Edit add: a reply to: projectvxn
Some reason was not included in post.
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posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: dug88

But quantum computing changes ALL of it.



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: dug88

These things have specific names.

Latches, flipflops, and multivibrators make up ICs. It isn't enough to call it a transistor and capacitor pair. A latch is a type of flip flop that holds its state with minimal power. This is the very basis of electronic memory.

Multivibrators and other types of logic gate systems make up processing ICs.
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posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
So what if i find an empty planet and create a bunch of organic robots can i have my way with them if i choose? If they try to get all uppity can i cull out the bad ones and continue to have my fun? If i find a way for them to reproduce could i use some of them for spare parts? What about labor? Can i make em work for me?

I could just program them for the task i choose and have different roles for them to play. I could even hide a sub conscious control tech that allowed for the ability to have some in control and some smarter than others.

I bet they would likely get all uppity on me and try to claim i was not real.


At that point, your human rights will need to be protected.


Or i could just flip that hidden switch and eliminate the problem beings. Unless i got soft and began to care about their feeling and enjoyed their musings online.





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