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posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Its really odd the amount of excuses and deflections you come up with to blame everyone but trump.

Somehow you know what trump was thinking from behind the keyboard...🤯🤪

Same for the healthcare for all Americans and bringing back "coal " in the 21st century , what was trump think on those issues?




posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: DoubleDNH

You should ask Pelosi, Schumer, Obama, Clinton and the rest of the gang that voted to fund a Southern border WALL in 2006.

but no, our righteous indignation is only to be directed to the orange man.


Funding the wall is a regular exercise that both parties do every few years. It provides further funding for improvements, repairs, staffing. expenses, etc.

What Trump promised to do was to build and actual continuous wall along our entire southern border. Something that was always unthinkable and deemed unnecessary and un-American.
He could have done it over the last two years but - since he is a compromised puppet of the new world order (like everyone before him) then we move this scene over to today, where there is no way that it will ever get "done" the way he promised it would.





If Trump was indeed a compromised puppet of the new world order, he would have got into office and "managed the decline of America" like the last few Presidents.

You know, over 1.8% GDP isn't possible, those jobs won't come back, etc, etc ad nauseum.

Instead that didn't happen and the ACTUAL cheerleaders for the Progressive Globalists are fighting as hard as they can to keep him from doing what he said he would do.

Someone like you would like to think he's controlled opposition.. that way you can keep your smug attitude because you are smart enough to "be above politics".

In reality very real sociogeopolitical war is being waged right now.

The results of which will effect everyone in America and to a lesser extent everyone on the planet.

It is my opinion that you are on the wrong side of it.


edit on 15-2-2019 by Lumenari because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: proximo

Most drugs are coming and going through ports of entry.
This is a true statement



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
??Your house is not the border.

Stats do show that the numbers are down.

One will have a heck of a time convincing a judge that there is an emergency now.


The numbers being down has nothing to do with something being an emergency.

If an army of 1 million is invading your territory, or one of 800,000 is invading - they are both emergencies.

Trying to get the problem solved through congress first - which is the way the government is supposed to work, then resorting to declaring an emergency because they will not do their job does not mean it's not an emergency, just that he was trying to solve the problem the way the system is supposed to work.


edit on 15-2-2019 by proximo because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:30 AM
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You're giving them way too much credit if you actually believe they know what they're fighting for.

Most of them are incapable of thinking beyond Orange Man Bad.



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:34 AM
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the payoff "payees" scrambling and getting exposed 😆



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
??Your house is not the border.

Stats do show that the numbers are down.

One will have a heck of a time convincing a judge that there is an emergency now.


The numbers being down has nothing to do with something being an emergency.

If an army of 1 million is invading your territory, or one of 800,000 is invading - they are both emergencies.

Trying to get the problem solved through congress first - which is the way the government is supposed to work, then resorting to declaring an emergency because they will not do their job does not mean it's not an emergency, just that he was trying to solve the problem the way the system is supposed to work.



YEA NO

There is no army invasion. There is no invasion. There are people coming and claiming asylum just as they always have.

Feelings do not convince judges they are being rained on as someone pisses on their head.

It will take facts and there is a severe shortage of them on the side of claiming an emergency.



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
??Your house is not the border.

Stats do show that the numbers are down.

One will have a heck of a time convincing a judge that there is an emergency now.


Doesn't matter in the bigger scheme of things, if it fails through Trumps done everything a President can do to get it built. It just motivates the right to get out and vote for him in 2020.


That is actual logic.




posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: proximo

Most drugs are coming and going through ports of entry.
This is a true statement


So how many undetected drugs and people are coming in ? 😆

Should be easy to calculate right? 😆



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:38 AM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: proximo

Most drugs are coming and going through ports of entry.
This is a true statement


No kidding. The point of my post which apparently went WAY over your head is that is an idiotic argument.

Most - does not mean ALL - and Most in this case still means tons and tons come across the border where no fence exists.

You really cannot understand this?

Let me try an make this simpler for you.

For example 10,000 tons of drugs comes through the ports of entry. 5,000 tons comes across the border.

Stopping the 10,000 tons does not solve the 5,000. BOTH HAVE TO BE SOLVED - BOTH!



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:38 AM
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originally posted by: UncleTomahawk

originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
??Your house is not the border.

Stats do show that the numbers are down.

One will have a heck of a time convincing a judge that there is an emergency now.


The numbers being down has nothing to do with something being an emergency.

If an army of 1 million is invading your territory, or one of 800,000 is invading - they are both emergencies.

Trying to get the problem solved through congress first - which is the way the government is supposed to work, then resorting to declaring an emergency because they will not do their job does not mean it's not an emergency, just that he was trying to solve the problem the way the system is supposed to work.



YEA NO

There is no army invasion. There is no invasion. There are people coming and claiming asylum just as they always have.

Feelings do not convince judges they are being rained on as someone pisses on their head.

It will take facts and there is a severe shortage of them on the side of claiming an emergency.




I can take you to a place not 10 min from my house and we can see all these so called asylum seekers walking through areas not protected.

Just
with the asylum seeker b.s.



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: DoubleDNH

You should ask Pelosi, Schumer, Obama, Clinton and the rest of the gang that voted to fund a Southern border WALL in 2006.

but no, our righteous indignation is only to be directed to the orange man.


Those people need to be "Fired"



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: proximo

Most drugs are coming and going through ports of entry.
This is a true statement


Most drugs that are being found are coming through ports of entry.

Think harder.




posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

lol seriously... some of your points are valid, but this whole "un-American" malarky needs to stop. Un American according to who? The half of Americans that want the wall, or the half that do?



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: Lumenari

Its really odd the amount of excuses and deflections you come up with to blame everyone but trump.

Somehow you know what trump was thinking from behind the keyboard...🤯🤪

Same for the healthcare for all Americans and bringing back "coal " in the 21st century , what was trump think on those issues?


As someone a little more informed than you are, it is really odd how much you just follow the line "orange man bad."

Somehow you know what Trump is thinking because CNN told you.




posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

lol seriously... some of your points are valid, but this whole "un-American" malarky needs to stop. Un American according to who? The half of Americans that want the wall, or the half that do?


I'm guessing the half of Americans that want to keep it a sovereign country.

You know, the ones thinking beyond "pizza tonight".

ETA.... for the Progressive left who would like to "fundamentally transform" America from what it is to a Socialistic dystopia, are they not, by definition, Un-American?




edit on 15-2-2019 by Lumenari because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

I actually hope you are right!
I would be proud if I were to believe it to be true.
I wish I believed it were true.
But I doubt it.
Unfortunately, me "seeing" all lies from both parties doesn't place on any "side" - both are wrong.
That being said, I hope he proves me wrong.


edit on 15-2-2019 by EmmanuelGoldstein because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: UncleTomahawk

originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
??Your house is not the border.

Stats do show that the numbers are down.

One will have a heck of a time convincing a judge that there is an emergency now.


The numbers being down has nothing to do with something being an emergency.

If an army of 1 million is invading your territory, or one of 800,000 is invading - they are both emergencies.

Trying to get the problem solved through congress first - which is the way the government is supposed to work, then resorting to declaring an emergency because they will not do their job does not mean it's not an emergency, just that he was trying to solve the problem the way the system is supposed to work.



YEA NO

There is no army invasion. There is no invasion. There are people coming and claiming asylum just as they always have.

Feelings do not convince judges they are being rained on as someone pisses on their head.

It will take facts and there is a severe shortage of them on the side of claiming an emergency.


Actually sadly this is a very false statement. Judges 100% are making rulings on their feelings not the law. However the supreme court is about the best at actually following the law - however it is far from perfect. The supreme court will uphold this.

You don't understand how routine it is to declare a national emergency. Obama declared 10 of them - here they are.

19. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia (Apr. 12, 2010)

20. Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya (Feb. 25, 2011)

21. Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations (Jul. 25, 2011)

22. Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen (May 16, 2012)

23. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine (Mar. 6, 2014)

24. Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan (Apr. 3, 2014)

25. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic (May 12, 2014)

26. Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela (Mar. 9, 2015)

27. Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities (Apr. 1, 2015)

28. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi (Nov. 23, 2015)

Which one of those meets your definition of an emergency? None I bet.



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
a reply to: Lumenari

I actually hope you are right!
I would be proud if I were to believe it to be true.
I wish I believed it were true.
But I doubt it.
Unfortunately, me "seeing" all lies from both parties doesn't me on any "side" both are wrong.
That being said, I hope he proves me wrong.


Me too, tbh.

Both parties do not have our best interests at heart, at all.

I'm hoping for some sort of hail Mary before we sink into the dustbin of history.

Time will tell.



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: Muninn

originally posted by: UncleTomahawk

originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
??Your house is not the border.

Stats do show that the numbers are down.

One will have a heck of a time convincing a judge that there is an emergency now.


The numbers being down has nothing to do with something being an emergency.

If an army of 1 million is invading your territory, or one of 800,000 is invading - they are both emergencies.

Trying to get the problem solved through congress first - which is the way the government is supposed to work, then resorting to declaring an emergency because they will not do their job does not mean it's not an emergency, just that he was trying to solve the problem the way the system is supposed to work.



YEA NO

There is no army invasion. There is no invasion. There are people coming and claiming asylum just as they always have.

Feelings do not convince judges they are being rained on as someone pisses on their head.

It will take facts and there is a severe shortage of them on the side of claiming an emergency.




I can take you to a place not 10 min from my house and we can see all these so called asylum seekers walking through areas not protected.

Just
with the asylum seeker b.s.


Hey do not shoot the messenger. Asylum is the cover for many people choosing to cross.

I am interested in that 10min trip. Perhaps you could take some video and maybe get an interview?




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