Amazon pulls out of New York headquarters plan

a reply to: DAVID64

$27 billion is literally pocket change to commies.

And yet justice is served if a rapist can plea bargain down to trespassing charges...

Losing $30 billion because you could not stand losing $3 billion is why we have a national debt of $21 trillion. And that is what the entitlement problem really is all about: I can’t have it all so I won’t accept most of the money.

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
The jobs and revenue are positive. However, as someone who lives in NYC, there was significant concern that placing Amazon there would highly impact queens and probably east Manhattan and north Brooklyn. Already housing prices are through the roof. Further, there was significant push back by a range of communities and orgs across NYC. Are you against Democracy and local communities making decisions?
a reply to: StoutBroux

Of course I'm not against it. But turning down a potential of 40,000 NEW jobs in New York seems anti-income at best, even more so for the reason you state. Maybe more businesses should leave, creating even more no/low incomes which might lower the property values. I don't know, something like what has happened in Michigan and Illinois? Is that your idea of controlling housing prices? Isn't that like discouraging homeowners from home improvements because it will increase the value of neighboring properties???????

a reply to: ausernameThats what happens with socialist/communist programs. It destroys businesses, which destroys the economy. The government then turns on the people to squeeze the last money out of them, and eventually everyone is broke. The government turns to central planning to “fix” everything, and we know how that turns out.

While there are Marxist or leftists democrats, and possibly a growing proportion, generally most weren’t historically. Furthermore, again, to real leftists and Marxism or socialism Democrats are not left wingers. Words have meaning, and are often misused in US discourse.

Your guys characterizations are as inaccurate as are my liberal friends calling you all Nazis, which I also protest to them.

Yes, democrats traditionally were pro labor.

But again, marxists or leftists are even more so explicitly, in that they are for workers having control of the “means of production” not the rich or capitalists. I agree that Marxism hasn’t worked, but that’s a separate point.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Sure, you can disagree with them, but I thought now days conservatives were ostensibly for returning freedom and decision making to local or regional communities, rather than centralized power, including corporate government collusion?
a reply to: neo96

a reply to: StoutBroux


AOC = Bad Apple

Sanctuary States pay attention

No, I’m not taking sides here. But, as others have stated, why have the headquarters there in an already over crowded, impacted area? Even for Amazon, there are far cheaper areas even in NYC. Lower rent, more space, less impact, etc.

www.google.com...


Also, this isn’t aimed at you but this thread is feeling a bit like a right wing circle jerk right now. Echo chambers aren’t fun and degrade conversation m.
a reply to: StoutBroux

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Sure, you can disagree with them, but I thought now days conservatives were ostensibly for returning freedom and decision making to local or regional communities, rather than centralized power, including corporate government collusion?
a reply to: neo96

Certainly jumped the shark on that one.

What the hell does that have to do with New York tuning down a legitimate business that would employ thousands, and increase it's residents wealth making power?

AND.

However, a small group politicians put their own narrow political interests above their community-- which poll after poll showed overwhelmingly supported bringing Amazon to Long Island City -- the state's economic future and the best interests of the people of this state," Cuomo said

Can anyone do the Miley Cyrus vid "Wrecking Ball" with AOC's face instead of Miley's on it? I thought it might be a fitting parody.

I’m leaving a few sources here for discussion. How do I put quotes such as you have above?
Business insider.
www.google.com...

Ny times
www.google.com...

a reply to: StoutBroux

Occasional kotex can come to Indiana and cut the ribbon at the opening ceremony.

But I doubt it will be built in Indiana....bummer

Such mass tech/corporate dev can have negative impacts on a city too. I think you are being too reductionist here.

As someone from the SF area originally, while Silicon Valley brought economic development to the Bay, it’s fundamentally changed the culture are demographics. Many of the workers aren’t from the area or even US, which is a concern with Amazon too. I’m referring to the known issues with h1n1 visas and many claimed job opportunity benefits being less than promised due to said jobs going to non locals.

Housing prices are now unaffordable for the majority of people, worse than ny. Even for lawyers and doctors.

In both locations, cost of living rises faster than increases in jobs and income per capita. That’s one reason that you have to look at net impact, not just numbers in a vacuum.
a reply to: neo96

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

So the left is now XENOPHOBIC!!!

That's simply precious.

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
No, I’m not taking sides here. But, as others have stated, why have the headquarters there in an already over crowded, impacted area? Even for Amazon, there are far cheaper areas even in NYC. Lower rent, more space, less impact, etc.


Also, this isn’t aimed at you but this thread is feeling a bit like a right wing circle jerk right now. Echo chambers aren’t fun and degrade conversation m.
a reply to: StoutBroux

There are far cheaper areas and Amazon is (still) considering those as well in addition to NY. In a crowded area, wouldn't it be nice to have a good job? Give those who live there already a good job? If you live there, you most likely feel your state is a great state and opportunity to better one's status is a always a good idea, no? And I can't help but think you feel NY is overcrowded and impacted? How do you feel about undocumented (illegal) immigrants in NY?

New York Metro Area Home To 1.2 Million Undocumented Immigrants
patch.com...

Since I am unfamiliar with your stance on open borders, I would appreciate your reply. Quite frankly, if you are for open borders and against your state's population possibly increasing with legal US citizens because of income opportunity, I would have to call you a hypocrite.

Oh well for NYC. Amazon should come across the river, New Jersey was willing to give them a pretty good deal and you can still draw from the same talent pool.

AOC wanted it all or none and so she gets none .
Well she will get flak from people who she is supposed to be representing.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

So the left is now XENOPHOBIC!!!

That's simply precious.

Oh please. We are talking about h1n1 visas and the like. Stop being disingenuous.

If a ton of jobs for such companies don’t even go to locals it’s a real issue and moderates the claimed job opportunities.

Stop giving stars to disingenuous circle jerk comments people. It makes you look petty or partisan.

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Stop giving stars to disingenuous circle jerk comments people. It makes you look petty or partisan.

Sure does.

One more time.

However, a small group politicians put their own narrow political interests above their community-- which poll after poll showed overwhelmingly supported bringing Amazon to Long Island City -- the state's economic future and the best interests of the people of this state," Cuomo said

Could always ask AOC to redistribute them.