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Does the Bell toll for the A380?

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posted on Feb, 14 2019 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Imagine a timeline where the MD-12 entered service in 1995 and saved the company.




posted on Feb, 14 2019 @ 12:01 PM
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I've seen pop writeups claiming the Prez of Airbus has confirmed the A380 line is closing in 2021.



posted on Feb, 14 2019 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: anzha

newatlas.com...



posted on Feb, 14 2019 @ 07:02 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Forensick

Travel is increasing, but with the Max and other long range narrowbodies, there's less hub and spoke and more point to point. Even if they put a new engine on it, production is dead, and several customers are talking about early retirement of their aircraft.


Yeah just seen that, dead in the water. Shame but a typical EU vanity project and Airbus thinking they can make the horses drink the water.

Should have made a cargo version.



posted on Feb, 14 2019 @ 09:42 PM
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I was always surprised that they didn't. It only makes sense as a freighter.



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 04:14 AM
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Super Guppy Conversion?



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 05:55 AM
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The freighter version died because it was going to be crap as a freighter, that's why FedEx cancelled their order. I forget the exact technical reason, it was to do with payload versus fuel load but basically a 747 freighter is better. Funnily enough though a number of early aircraft were actually built as 380-F's including at least one for QF (VH-OQD I think), but were completed as -800's after the failure of the freighter version. I was told what the difference was at the time, Ill see if I can ask the brains trust what the differences are and get back to you.

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posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 09:06 AM
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They'd look pretty darn cool in Atlas/Kalitta livery...



posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: thebozeian
a reply to: Zaphod58
The freighter version died because it was going to be crap as a freighter, that's why FedEx cancelled their order. I forget the exact technical reason, it was to do with payload versus fuel load but basically a 747 freighter is better. Funnily enough though a number of early aircraft were actually built as 380-F's including at least one for QF (VH-OQD I think), but were completed as -800's after the failure of the freighter version. I was told what the difference was at the time, Ill see if I can ask the brains trust what the differences are and get back to you.


Just did some googling, apparently it was 2.3 containers wide (or some such width) meaning wasted space.

The floor is structural leaving configuration issues.

It cannot travel full as a full load would weight too much (suppose it depends on what you are carrying).

Has COG issues...

So probably would have been better if it were designed as a freighter and then configured for people but then it would have taken airbus longer to get to market.

Sounds like a complete cluster **** from start to finish really!



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 05:24 AM
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Two things I was reading up on. Cannot verify the accuracy. Anyone?

1. The scrap value of an A380 is c. $40M with the engines at $6M a piece. Many parts can be reused elsewhere.
2. Airbus has lost between $25-$30 bn in the project.



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