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Trump Could lose 2020

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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

except his approval is 52% after tge SOTU


No its not its 52% according to, rasmussen Reports its 52% but they don't have a reputation as being impartial and accurate pollsters, they have a politically right bias and consistently give Trump higher numbers than other pollsters and despite this struggle to keep him above 50% approval. According to their own index history Trump has barley ever been above 50%. When you look at the polling data collectively right now he is at 40%.

So , do you have any other US polls you go by ?
Folks from all US demographics seem to think that Rasmussen done an excellent job with Barry's numbers.


I tend to just go with collective polls that take an average across various sources. so FiveThirtyEight is pretty good and it does include Rasmussen Reports, who by the way, despite them having a strong politically right bias struggle to keep Trump above 50%, he has already dropped from 52% with them to 50% today.



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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I think he will win again.
He is an idiot that panders to a base of bigger idiots and they swallow it whole.



Perfect example of why trump won.
You call people that disagree with you politically idiots.
Enjoy the next 6 years with that attitude.


Not correct
I call idiots idiots.

There are more than 2 political parties.
He is one pandering to many.
It will be looked at as one of the greatest cons of all time.

Usually , when one calls another "idiot" , they are trying to hide their own shortcomings



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: neversleep



Which one was more accurate in 2016? Just curious


I have linked to polling data from around the time of 2016, in terms of popular vote they were pretty accurate actually. Most polls were showing a few points in it between Trump and Clinton as Election Day draw closer.



Wow look at how fast you debunk a "right leaning poll" but offer the left wing polls as proof .


Even if you want to break the numbers down from Rasmussen Reports to day have 40% strongly disapprove of Trump with 37% strongly approving. Regardless really of what polling data you want to extrapolate from Trumps trend is consistently below 50%. Which to get right on topic here is on of the reasons I think it is premature for Trump supporters to claim he will win 2020 as if its a certainty.
edit on 12-2-2019 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)


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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I guess we will see who is right, your pollsters clamed Hillary was at 90% and a
win....Im waiting



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

except his approval is 52% after tge SOTU


No its not its 52% according to, rasmussen Reports its 52% but they don't have a reputation as being impartial and accurate pollsters, they have a politically right bias and consistently give Trump higher numbers than other pollsters and despite this struggle to keep him above 50% approval. According to their own index history Trump has barley ever been above 50%. When you look at the polling data collectively right now he is at 40%.

So , do you have any other US polls you go by ?
Folks from all US demographics seem to think that Rasmussen done an excellent job with Barry's numbers.


I tend to just go with collective polls that take an average across various sources. so FiveThirtyEight is pretty good and it does include Rasmussen Reports, who by the way, despite them having a strong politically right bias struggle to keep Trump above 50%, he has already dropped from 52% with them to 50% today.

Collective polls ?
What the Hades is that ?
So , I imagine the answer to my question is a no


Edited : I just looked up who is FiveThirtyEight
ABC News right there in the upper right corner




© 2019 ABC News Internet Ventures. All rights reserved.

I got to add a laughing out loud for that one

edit on 2/12/19 by Gothmog because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Yeah.

Trump could lose.

*shrugs*

Sh#t often happens, as the kids say.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:08 AM
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Odds of Elizabeth Warren winning are virtually identical to Donald Trump's odds of losing in 2020.

imo




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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Open borders, crime, socialism, loss of rights, less wealthy nation, identity politics, weaker military, baby killers, lying sacks of @$&%...

OR

America(ns) first, border protection, transparency in government, a wealthier nation, POTUS for (ALL) the People, less crime, less government, less regulations, more jobs, common sense policy, stronger military, less taxes...

Which would you choose?



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I guess we will see who is right, your pollsters clamed Hillary was at 90% and a
win....Im waiting


No they didn't that is factually incorrect. If you look at [url=https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html]RealClearPolitics[/url ] who keep a handy record of this you will see that before the election most polls were showing both candidates as being around the 45% mark with some favouring Clinton and some even favouring Trump.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: PurpleFox




Open borders, crime, socialism, loss of rights, less wealthy nation, identity politics, weaker military, baby killers, lying sacks of @$&%...



I don't think anyone is going to be running with a set of policies along those lines.

The point of this thread is very basic, its almost a "duh" kind of thing.

There is a very real chance Trump might not win 2020 and all am saying is that he supports might want to stop talking about it like he's already got it in the bag or else they might end up looking a little silly after election day.


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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

So you're not just speculating.

You want Trump supporters to shut themselves up.

Why?



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:16 AM
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So you're not just speculating.


I don't think am really speculating at all really.



You want Trump supporters to shut themselves up.


Again I have not asked anyone to shut up.

If you want to know what this thread is on its most basic level.

Its just about highlighting that it's way to premature to be saying that Trump is going to win 2020.


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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Some folks think they have integrity.

Some folks also think they are Sparticus.


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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: neversleep

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I think he will win again.
He is an idiot that panders to a base of bigger idiots and they swallow it whole.

Do you call Trump supporters you meet in person idiots? People at work who like him Do you call them idiots?



That’s a silly question.

Everyone knows liberals don’t work.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Those are their exact policies to any Americans with 2 firing neurons in their skulls...

We reject socialism outright. We want protection for our families. We want more money for ourselves. We don't care about the color of your skin.

Which party is currently going to give me what the MAJORITY of Americans want?

It's not very hard.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: PurpleFox




Open borders, crime, socialism, loss of rights, less wealthy nation, identity politics, weaker military, baby killers, lying sacks of @$&%...



I don't think anyone is going to be running with a set of policies along those lines.

The point of this thread is very basic, its almost a "duh" kind of thing.

There is a very real chance Trump might not win 2020 and all am saying is that he supports might want to stop talking about it like he's already got it in the bag or else they might end up looking a little silly after election day.



No.

Appreciate the "advice" but no.

We'll continue to talk about it.



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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


all am saying is that he supports might want to stop talking about it like he's already got it in the bag or else they might end up looking a little silly after election day.

So you're trying to save Trump supporters from ending up like the Dems did in 2016?



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: UncleTomahawk




I think he is 90% popular but the 10% drags him down much.



You might think that but when you look at the best indicators of presidential popularity he has a 40% approval rating.


Yes i agree with that.

I am saying that if it were not for the immigration hyperbole then he would have a slam dunk shot and have much higher approval rating.

How about this. 10% of his policies are costing him 60% in approval ratings.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: neversleep

I was pretty clear so I will say again.

He is an idiot that panders to idiots.

Make of it what you will



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: Gothmog

I did answer your question....

Look if you don't like the data because it doesn't say that the country thinks the sun shines out of Trumps behind then sorry there isn't much I can do about that because there are no polls that show him as being above 50%. Even that glorious 52% with Rasmussen, it was a blip, they also consistently have him at below 50%.

If you disagree with the polls then that's fine but thats only your opinion the fact remains that the polls show Trump as being consistently unpopular.

Do you think he will win in 2020 and if so why/why not?



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