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They said trump caved

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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:46 AM
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When the shutdown ended a little over two weeks ago, the left was saying trump caved.

Well Friday is the deadline for another shutdown.

Then I read this...

:With Shutdown Looming, Border Deal Is Reached ‘in Principle’"

www.google.com...

"WASHINGTON — House and Senate negotiators on Monday night agreed in principle to provide $1.375 billion for fencing and other physical barriers at the Mexican border, part of a broader agreement that would stave off another partial government shutdown without funding President Trump’s wall."

"The funding for 55 miles of new fencing is a figure far lower than the $5.7 billion that Mr. Trump had demanded and marginally less than the $1.6 billion for 65 miles of pedestrian fencing in the bill that the Senate Appropriations Committee had passed last year."

Only 1/4 of the length the president wanted initially but is this not a step in the direction he was heading?

Did the left cave by having this immoral wall built?
Did trump cave by only getting some of the wall built?

www.politico.com...
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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:52 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Trump has not signed it yet. The agreement is within congress.
when he signs it... hopefully... it will be what is called a compromise.
Both sides give a little to get a little.
Besides that... he is already saying he's going to build it anyway.
Like.... I dont care what you say ... I'm doing what ever I want...
We shall see...



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:53 AM
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They are saying he is catering to his base voters, which it appears he has been doing all along.


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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:53 AM
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Trump is doing just fine. Despite 99% negative media coverage and phony investigations for years. I, for one, am pleasantly surprised at how he has stuck with the conservative ideology. Even more so than the elected Republicans. Even when he gets attacked 24/7 he still continues to do the right thing. I honestly thought he would be another one who ran on conservative ideas and then turned liberal in Washington. But so for that hasn't been the case. He has the liberals actually campaigning that walls kill people. It's great!


Trump's approval rating among likely voters soars to 52%




Rasmussen Reports poll as Trump at 52 per cent approval, his best showing in 23 months and a higher number than his winning edge in 2016.

Significant up-swing since government-shutdown low of 43 per cent.

New numbers were collected in the three days immediately following State of the Union address.

Asked what Monday's numbers mean, a senior Democratic House aide confided on background: 'I don't know yet if it's horrible, but it sure isn't good'.

Polling average is just 42.4 per cent, including mostly those surveys that are open to all Americans; Rasmussen polls only 'likely voters'



Also from the poll:



Overall, 47 per cent of likely voters disapprove of Trump's Oval Office performance. That's a low water mark since November 2, 2018.




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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:56 AM
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No one caved, no one got everything they wanted. You can't actually define the winners or losers here.

Believe it or not, with balanced powers in government this is actually how things like this should work out, through negotiated compromises and agreements.

President Trump can still build the wall, already is, and his administration can reappropriate funds from other funds to finish it.

It will get done one way or another now.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Weren't they reporting that back in December too?

I guess we'll find out.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:57 AM
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The news said he caved.

www.google.com...

www.google.com...://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/25/politics/government-shutdown-donald-trump-nancy-pelosi/index.h tml&ved=2ahUKEwjClsSdrLbgAhWZ0YMKHXFJCVIQFjACegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw1VnjX35AkKnH-7vLxCJY7Y&cf=1


www.google.com...


So did he cave?

Three media sources linked above with the word caved in the title.
All three links happened after the shutdown ended temporarily.




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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:57 AM
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Details of the final deal may not be released until Wednesday, which has both parties aggressively attempting to spin the proposal as a win.


with Trump asking for weeks to have a negotiation, and the dims crying buckets and screaming at the sky and TV cameras that NOT ONE PENNY would be given to the wall, it's up to the reader to decide who "won" here.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:58 AM
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a reply to: jjkenobi

How popular is Donald Trump?

A combination of all polls..shows 55.2 disapprove and 40.3 approve. Kind of sad that a conservative biased poll only has him at 52%..LMAO



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:58 AM
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The " Border Crossing Admin " will see to it that imperceptible swinging doors are installed at various lengths down along the wall. Or long deep tunnels etc.

The paying customers are given a swipe card ...

Who knows what sort of a challenge .. with a wealthy pay off .. this will give to those inclined !?

😏
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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:58 AM
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a reply to: ausername

Of course, by Donald ignoring the facts and calling the Rep. El Paso Mayor 'full of crap' because he contradicts him.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:58 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

And Trump loses again. NO WALL



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 08:01 AM
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originally posted by: UmmmmNO
a reply to: Bluntone22

And Trump loses again. NO WALL



What do you mean no wall?

The article says 55 miles of barrier.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 08:05 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Seriously. There are some people here that are absolutely brain dead. Or, theyre NPC's.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 08:05 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Take that you murderous Mexicans just don't look left or right, you might see the other 1,902 miles of border.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 08:07 AM
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a reply to: UmmmmNO

Every journey starts with a first step



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 08:11 AM
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a reply to: InTheLight

Who seem to have forgotten that that was a two part promise....
Build the wall... have Mexico pay for it.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 08:15 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Bluntone22

Trump has not signed it yet. The agreement is within congress.
when he signs it... hopefully... it will be what is called a compromise.
Both sides give a little to get a little.
Besides that... he is already saying he's going to build it anyway.
Like.... I dont care what you say ... I'm doing what ever I want...
We shall see...

He does have a pen and a phone just like Barry



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 08:16 AM
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In todays environment allow me to explain...

The Left....He caved.
The Right....Pelosi caved.
Normal People....Thank God they compromised.....now get back to work you morons.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 08:17 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Fence reinforcements. Not a wall.
Are you going to try to spin this like trump tried to spin the renegotiated NAFTA agreement as the way that Mexico is paying for the wall? Because no one but the truly stupid was buying that.
Why cant we look at this compromise as a win/win instead of taking sides?
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