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The Finnish authorities recognized the participation of the Finnish SS in the Holocaust

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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 05:32 AM
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Finnish SS volunteers participated in the massacres of Jews and other civilians during the Second World War. This is stated in the investigation, the results of which were presented on 8 February by the Director of the National Archives of Finland, Jussi Nuorteva.

The report says that the Finnish soldiers who fought as part of the SS Viking division in Ukraine and in southern Russia were well aware of and participated in the killings of civilians. The cases described occurred in 1941-1942.

At the same time, the cases presented in the report were noted by researchers as few.




“The willingness of Finnish volunteers to kill Soviet prisoners was probably higher than kill civilians”


Finnish scientists conducted an extensive investigation at the request of the Director of the Israeli Center Simon Wiesenthal Efraim Zuroff. After 1941, about 1,400 Finnish volunteer soldiers fought as part of the Viking division of the Waffen-SS on the Eastern Front, that is, on the territory of the former USSR. The Finnish battalion reached the Caucasus through the territory of the Ukrainian SSR and the southern regions and lost more than 250 men during the offensive.

The Nürnberg trial did not touch the Finnish SS men, since the division’s involvement in any war crimes was not established.

It is strange that, according to the authors of the report, the willingness of Finnish volunteers to kill Soviet prisoners was probably higher than the kill of civilians and Jews. And also that, in spite of the massacres, they were not recognized as war criminals by the Nuremberg Tribunal. But now Finland is apologizing for the genocide of the Jews, but is not apologizing for the much greater genocide of the Russians and the killing of Russian prisoners of war.

In addition, the Finnish army took part in the blockade of the city of Leningrad (St. Petersburg), during which from hunger and cold killed from 600 thousand to 1.5 million civilians, including Jews. The Jews of Leningrad are recognized as victims of the Holocaust. That is, the Finnish army participated in the Holocaust. An interesting point, all Jews - residents of besieged Leningrad, received compensation from Germany. But only Jews. The genocide of Russians and civilians of other nationalities is not considered a genocide in the West.

A piquant feature is the fact that the blockade of Leningrad, which resulted in the death of many Jews, was attended by the formation of the Finnish army, consisting entirely of Jews. About this is written in great detail in the article The Telegraph "The Jews who fought for Hitler: 'We didn’t help the Germans. We had a common enemy'"



This article reveals the startling evidence of the participation of entire military units from the Jews in the war on the Eastern Front. In the Finnish army of Mannerheim, which carried out the blockade of Leningrad from the north, there were whole battalions consisting of Jews, and even having their own walking synagogues.



Jewish soldiers and officers in the 10, 24, 53, and 64 regiments of the Finnish Army Mannerheim, as well as the women's volunteer organization Lota Ward, fought side by side with the Wehrmacht 136 division against the Soviet army. Moreover, Lieutenant Solomon Klaus, Major Leo Skornik and volunteer Dean Polyakoff were personally awarded the highest award of Germany - the Order of the Iron Cross - by Hitler.

There is a natural question left to the director of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Israel, Efraim Zuroff: "By whom should these people be considered victims of the Holocaust, or people conducting the Holocaust?"




posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 05:48 AM
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80 years later...

Sounds like virtue signaling self gratification to me.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 05:56 AM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
80 years later...

Sounds like virtue signaling self gratification to me.


The meaning is not in 80 years, but in real money, which Finland will start paying Israel to now for the genocide of the citizens of the USSR



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 06:46 AM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
80 years later...

Sounds like virtue signaling self gratification to me.


Eh, I'm glad it got posted.

I'll obviously look into it more before I really form an opinion around it....

That said, my opinion wouldn't judge anyone living today for someone's actions who are gone (or judge Finland as a whole for that matter).

I just like to know about history.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:18 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Russians 7.8 million
Jews 5–6 million
Poles 3 million
Serbs 600,000
Disabled 300,000
Romani 500,000
Freemasons 200,000
Slovenes 25,000
Spanish Republicans 7,000
Homosexuals 15,000
Jehovah Witnesses 5000

The Germans thought, "those damn Jehovah Witnesses showing up at people's doors". I was surprised to find out there were more Russians killed in the Holocaust than Jews.

en.wikipedia.org...

The thing that surprises me about Holocaust is how many people died of starvation in forced labor camps run by the state, that is, German Corporations.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 07:32 AM
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"Russian 7.8 million"

An interesting figure. Tell me, what is it based on?

In 2015, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced the following data: irretrievable military losses - about 12,000,000 people, total human losses of the country (USSR) - military personnel and civilians - 26,600,000 people

In March 2017, the State Duma held parliamentary hearings "Patriotic education of Russian citizens:" Immortal regiment ". They were attended by deputies, senators, representatives of legislative and highest executive bodies of state power of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, the Ministries of Education and Science, Defense, Foreign Affairs, Culture, members of public associations, organizations of foreign compatriots. At the hearing, Nikolai Zemtsov, co-chairman of the Immortal Regiment of Russia movement, State Duma deputy, presented the documentary document of the People’s Project Establishing the Fate of the Defenders of the Fatherland who went missing.

“The total decline in the population of the USSR in 1941–1945 is more than 52 million 812 thousand people,” said Zemtsov, citing declassified data from the USSR State Planning Committee. “Of these, the irretrievable losses resulting from the operation of the factors of war are more than 19 million military personnel and about 23 million civilians. The total natural mortality of servicemen and civilians over this period could have been more than 10 million 833 thousand people (including 5 million 760 thousand dead children under the age of four). The irretrievable loss of the population of the USSR as a result of the action of the factors of the war amounted to almost 42 million people.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 08:06 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: RussianTroll

Russians 7.8 million
Jews 5–6 million
Poles 3 million
Serbs 600,000
Disabled 300,000
Romani 500,000
Freemasons 200,000
Slovenes 25,000
Spanish Republicans 7,000
Homosexuals 15,000
Jehovah Witnesses 5000

The Germans thought, "those damn Jehovah Witnesses showing up at people's doors". I was surprised to find out there were more Russians killed in the Holocaust than Jews.

en.wikipedia.org...

The thing that surprises me about Holocaust is how many people died of starvation in forced labor camps run by the state, that is, German Corporations.


The REAL figure may have been as much as two to three time's higher than this, one former Commandant of Auschwitz just one of those death camp's when questioned said that the number of people processed at the camp during his time in power there was two and a half million, that is just under one commandant at one death camp and there were other commandant's at that camp than just him over it's period of operation.
German's were extremely diligent and accurate record keepers so I have no reason to doubt his self incrimination but due to the loss of record's after the war the entire number killed at the camp was rounded down to only those that could be reliably accounted for, in the case of Auschwitz this figure was rounded down to considerably less than his claim for it's entire operation period to 1.1 million and yet if we accept his claim of 2.5 million and then add in the period of operation outside his period in charge so at least 3 million for that one camp then we begin to see a feint image of the real size of the atrocity committed by the third reich.
Then of course add in the number of people whom died FIGHTING the Nazi's or through the invasion of the Nazi's not simply the death camp's horrific as they may be and we arrive at another conservative estimate (so also rounded down to reliable figures - which given how many records were lost leaves the real number still unknown to this day).

en.wikipedia.org...

Historically in the last century the biggest mass murderer was therefore Adolf Hitler and his NAZI regime (wartime and peacetime), this was probably seconded by Stalin (mainly peacetime his purge of his army for example almost left Russia defenseless in the face of the sudden - but always planned - NAZI aggression) with his murder of countless million's of Russian's branded enemy's of the state and including many member's of the original communist revolution because they did not agree with Stalinist policy's - (in fact also remember that before Operation Barbarossa he was friendly with Hitler and even had Nazi Observers allowed to go with the Stalin secret police death squad's and watch how the Soviet's disposed of there dissident's machine gunning them into trenches, a tactic the NAZI's later tried but found too costly as it cost a lot of mark's for all of those bullet's) - and remember he threatened to kill Lenin's wife unless Lenin named him his successor on his death bed and this death toll was then followed by the number of people whom died under the rule of Chairman Mao and the Chinese communist's most of whom died due to starvation during the cultural revolution.

So in order of mass murder.
Hitler
Stalin
Mao

There were other mass murderer's during the 20th century and will likely be new one's to add to this list in this century but in war the real figures are almost always higher then the official post war figures, the only similar case in peace time has to be the killing field's of Cambodia, we still do not know how many died in that mass murdering event as most of Cambodia's record's were also lost during the reign of the Khmer rouge.

Rwanda, Somalia and Nubia (Sudan) also have to be remembered as do the countless guerrilla wars in south america and Africa - the Belgian's committed huge crimes in the Congo during there imperial period.

It is also worth noting that many NAZI's were themselves Mason's, Hess for example when he flew to Britain to meet up with someone very high up believed to have been a member of the Royal family by many in order to conduct secret negotiation's but instead got shot down and captured is claimed to have made the arrangement's through his Masonic contact's.
In the case of the Mason's therefore it was probably bad blood in the family - oh and the fact the NAZI occult wing the Ahnenerb wanted all of there library's and secret text's in there mystical search for ancient sciences and occult powers.
Unlike this wiki they were more than a think tank, one of there high ranking priests even believed that Hitler was the destined anti Christ so that will tell you of how far into the dark side they really were.
en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 08:28 AM
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On the website of the Yad Vashem Institute in Jerusalem, the lists of “Holocaust victims” include about 4.5 million names, compiled mostly not from documentary data, but from the testimony of various people. The site openly states that the fate of a huge number of people whose names have been entered into the database of Holocaust victims has not been established. The site reports that the names of 2.7 million Holocaust victims were obtained solely from the testimony sheets and are no longer supported, which significantly reduces their credibility.

The base of Yad Vashem victims of the Holocaust includes the following people:


Michael Neurath, 58 years old.
"Molested a seven-year-old girl, was sentenced to 1.5 years in prison."


Nathan Coingold, 37 years old.
"Molested a five-year-old girl, insulted his workers"


Louis Schlöss, 46 years old
"Sexual seduction of German girls."


Hans Oppenheimer, 33 years old
“I corrupted a German boy. Sentenced to 3.5 years in prison. "



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 02:56 PM
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I have to ask what is the source of this information - I know it say's Yad Vashem but are these NAZI record's or from research they or other's have compiled afterwards?.

During the 1930's the NAZI regime used extreme amount's of propaganda to brainwash the German population and they started young, kid's would call there own parent's traitors and lead to there arrest if they heard them say anything at all disparaging about the regime in charge and the NAZI's started on them young using the Hitler Youth to brainwash and condition an entire generation of innocent mind's corrupting and desensitizing them.

If Hitler had waited another ten years - he could not though as he needed the foreign wealth since the Reichsbank was running out of money and so he decided to move his scheduled invasion of Poland up after cautiously speaking to the Russian's and allowing them to take half the country while he took the other half of Poland - still despite being armed with outdated weapon's, horses and only a handful of cloth winged biplanes the Poles fought valiantly and of course once some young Polish pilot's came over to the UK to escape and were trained as the free polish Air force and provided with RAF Hurricane fighters they were perhaps the squadron with the highest number of kill's during the battle of Britain.

First he had stolen the wealth of the Jew's in Germany and brainwashed his nation to make it ever more acceptable which culminated before the war in the night of broken glass, these were Innocent people not the pedophiles you have proffered to anger us.

Now let's look again at your example's.
In Russia you have cannibal's murdering and eating people, child abusers, woman beaters and worse.
They do in Germany as well - perhaps a few less cannibal's but more of less the same on the other point's and we in Britain are more or less on a par with the German's on those social and domestic problem's.

But do minority's sometime's rape and abuse outside of there own community's because for some reason they believe those whom are not a part of there community's are therefore less than human?.
Well of course they do, we have a problem with minority grooming today in the UK, mostly Asian Muslim gang's but we also have our own home grown pervert's.

So do these evil men - if there crime's were NOT merely NAZI propaganda as indeed the NAZI's did indeed spin such tales and lies by the bucket load - actually justify the murder of countless people whom are completely innocent - or even of one innocent person?.

You know and I know there is such a thing as a Jewish Mafia, they are the scum of the earth but they are not the JEWISH people, I am part Jewish by the way though I am a christian by faith and upbringing (don't get me started on pedophile priests) and I would happily strangle those men with my bare hand's (God forgive me) if there crime's are genuine - BUT are they?.
OR are they just NAZI era propaganda made to blacken the entire Jewish ethnic and religious community.

Do some proper research mate, there are good people and BAD EVIL people in every nation.

Most Jews are simply people like any other people, some are a bit inbred, some look suspiciously like TALL LANKY Cossack's and some are mixed with Gypsy blood which happens' when you have two itinerant community's living side by side whom no one will allow to settle and whom end up sharing there caravan's with one another for hundred's and hundreds of years.
Most of them these day's have a fair bit if Russian ancestry as well?, they survived by there whit's, the weak died, the strong fought back and died and only the cunning survived - not the biggest, not the strongest, not the most violent the most cunning - does that make them bad people I think not but I have met both good and bad Jewish people, just as I have met good and bad Japanese, Good and Bad Polish and Good and Bad British people.

Personally if I was at Yad Vashem I would demand these men be stricken from the record - IF there crime's could be proven but were they guilty?, we know that kind of thing's goes on I mean hell it's happening right here today with grooming gang's but in this case were these men victim's or blackened for Nazi propaganda reason's.

I suspect that this was NAZI propaganda to justify there action's and to vilify all Jewish people so that Hitler and Goebbels could carry on stealing there asset's so that they could carry on running there unsustainable nation by propping up it's economy with stolen money.

Now don't get me wrong I personally do not like anyone that think's they are better than me and I also do not like to ever think myself better than anyone else - My personal nature and moral code if you like I see all men as equal in the sight of God only to be judged by him on the basis of there action's.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 02:57 PM
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I don't here the Irish people whinning about millions of us being starved by the fooken British over 100 years later...



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 03:13 PM
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I have Irish in me too pal, Liverpool (and Welsh and Scottish, and Maori as well as Jewish - of course My English could be argued to be a mix of British Celt, Angles and Saxon's with the feint possibility that some Norman popped in for a visit as well - and though they too were mostly Norse by origin they lived in France so go figure - it's a tiny world and at least I am not inbred).
The Church owned the land and sold the produce for export to make profit for itself while the people starved, the British government SHOULD have helped but it was the age of Tory rule and the Wig's - who if they were in power might have helped but only might have.
The other reason is traditional blind hatred of the English, when Cromwell took over Britain he forced his rule over the Irish as well WHOM were loyal to the Stuart's so resisted him.
This led to years of war declared and undeclared between catholic's and protestants and the legacy in Eira was to hate ALL English blindly and blame them for everything from the broken pot on the mantelpiece to the action's of the Irish Catholic church whom sold the food that should have saved all of those people as the bishop's took there orders from Rome and wanted to make money for the Church to keep there priests in there silk habit's.

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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 06:03 PM
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I reckon this Russian propaganda outlet wants nothing but love peace and understanding...

Then again, SS-men did shine love peace and understanding on Russians, on equal terms, so I guess there is no reason for Igor to poke others here...

Back in reality, so I have dim memory of all of this been debunked as alternative history driven by hybrid political motives.

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posted on Feb, 13 2019 @ 01:54 AM
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Your alternative history research is quite fun. The facts are that the USSR and Stalin saved the lives of millions of Jews from Poland, the Baltic States and the western regions of the USSR, evacuated millions of people inland. In the Saratov region and near the city of Tashkent, Stalin formed the army of Anders, which included tens of thousands of Jews. Tens of thousands of civilian Jews from Poland, including the future Israeli Prime Minister, Yitzhak Shamir, together with the Anders army from the USSR, arrived in Palestine through Iran, where they began a war of independence against the British administration. In Russia, there still exists Jewish national-territorial autonomy in the center in the city of Birobidzhan. It was created by Stalin. Where else in the world is this?



After the war, Stalin created an army for the defense of Israel in Czechoslovakia. All main parts were formed by Soviet instructors, weapons and equipment also supplied the USSR.

For example: The Elite of the IDF, the Golani brigade, was originally called the Gottwald Brigade and was formed in Czechoslovakia. Her first commander is the Hero of the Soviet Union Antonin Sohor. She was transferred to Palestine through Italy.



A large number of all types of weapons were sent to Israel through Czechoslovakia, including mortars, artillery, and German Messerschmitt captured fighters. Most of the weapons and ammunition were from stocks of German captured weapons, which removed the question of who supplies weapons to Palestinian Jews. Earlier military commanders had something to fight. By the way, the Czechs earned good money by selling their own weapons made at the Škoda and ChZ factories. At the airfield in České Budějovice, future Jewish aces got acquainted with the airplanes that were to be piloted. There, in České Budějovice, tankers and paratroopers were trained. One and a half thousand infantrymen of the Israel Defense Forces were taught in Olomouc, another two thousand in Mikulov. The medical staff was taught in Velk-Ströbn. Radio operators and telegraph operators - in Liberec. Electricians - in Pardubice. Soviet instructors gave lectures on political topics to young Israelis.

It was Stalin and Gromyko who insisted that the UN adopt a resolution on the independence of Israel. On this day, all of Israel was filled with portraits of Stalin. Nahum Goldman, President of the World Zionist Organization, wrote:

“Without the Soviet Union, the state of Israel would not exist at all. And not so much because the Russians voted for its creation, but rather because during the Arab invasion of 1948-1949, Israel received all the weapons from the communist countries. ”



Consider that by showing a similar ingratitude to the Russian people, you are now exposing future generations of Jews. As with the repetition of the Holocaust, Russia and the Russians will not save anyone for the second time.

About propaganda. The story of pedophiles who have become “victims of the Holocaust” has a very interesting sequel. It factually shows the methods of propaganda of Israel. If you want, I will bring them



posted on Feb, 13 2019 @ 02:32 AM
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I don't here the Irish people whinning about millions of us being starved by the fooken British over 100 years later...


Only you just have......

I didn't know you're Irish, what part of Ireland are you from?



posted on Feb, 13 2019 @ 02:57 AM
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Yeah, Stalin was a great guy.



And I'm sure all those who died in The Great Purge or as a result of his forced resettlement policies or those who perished in the Gulags and places like Katyn etc will agree with you.

Yeah, he was an all round good egg was your guy Stalin.

That you revere him as much as you so obviously do is yet further proof of your own moral compass.



posted on Feb, 13 2019 @ 03:15 AM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: RussianTroll

Yeah, Stalin was a great guy.



And I'm sure all those who died in The Great Purge or as a result of his forced resettlement policies or those who perished in the Gulags and places like Katyn etc will agree with you.

Yeah, he was an all round good egg was your guy Stalin.

That you revere him as much as you so obviously do is yet further proof of your own moral compass.


I did not hear anything against my substantive comment. Only naked propaganda. Which of the two of us is a troll?)))

By the way, many more people died in the USA during the Great Depression than in the Gulag. In Russia, there is a public organization recognized as a foreign agent, Memorial. This organization searches for the names of all the repressed and submits documents for their rehabilitation. For almost 30 years of existence, the Memorial found the names of about 350,000 repressed, although the leaders of this organization included in the list the names of all their relatives)))

Can you give us the names of "millions repressed by Stalin"?))) We are waiting!

In addition.

An interesting fact is that the leaders of all the Gulag camps were Jews. After 1938, most of them were arrested and repressed.
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posted on Feb, 13 2019 @ 08:43 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: LABTECH767

Your alternative history research is quite fun. The facts are that the USSR and Stalin saved the lives of millions of Jews from Poland, the Baltic States and the western regions of the USSR, evacuated millions of people inland. In the Saratov region and near the city of Tashkent, Stalin formed the army of Anders, which included tens of thousands of Jews. Tens of thousands of civilian Jews from Poland, including the future Israeli Prime Minister, Yitzhak Shamir, together with the Anders army from the USSR, arrived in Palestine through Iran, where they began a war of independence against the British administration. In Russia, there still exists Jewish national-territorial autonomy in the center in the city of Birobidzhan. It was created by Stalin. Where else in the world is this?



After the war, Stalin created an army for the defense of Israel in Czechoslovakia. All main parts were formed by Soviet instructors, weapons and equipment also supplied the USSR.

For example: The Elite of the IDF, the Golani brigade, was originally called the Gottwald Brigade and was formed in Czechoslovakia. Her first commander is the Hero of the Soviet Union Antonin Sohor. She was transferred to Palestine through Italy.



A large number of all types of weapons were sent to Israel through Czechoslovakia, including mortars, artillery, and German Messerschmitt captured fighters. Most of the weapons and ammunition were from stocks of German captured weapons, which removed the question of who supplies weapons to Palestinian Jews. Earlier military commanders had something to fight. By the way, the Czechs earned good money by selling their own weapons made at the Škoda and ChZ factories. At the airfield in České Budějovice, future Jewish aces got acquainted with the airplanes that were to be piloted. There, in České Budějovice, tankers and paratroopers were trained. One and a half thousand infantrymen of the Israel Defense Forces were taught in Olomouc, another two thousand in Mikulov. The medical staff was taught in Velk-Ströbn. Radio operators and telegraph operators - in Liberec. Electricians - in Pardubice. Soviet instructors gave lectures on political topics to young Israelis.

It was Stalin and Gromyko who insisted that the UN adopt a resolution on the independence of Israel. On this day, all of Israel was filled with portraits of Stalin. Nahum Goldman, President of the World Zionist Organization, wrote:

“Without the Soviet Union, the state of Israel would not exist at all. And not so much because the Russians voted for its creation, but rather because during the Arab invasion of 1948-1949, Israel received all the weapons from the communist countries. ”



Consider that by showing a similar ingratitude to the Russian people, you are now exposing future generations of Jews. As with the repetition of the Holocaust, Russia and the Russians will not save anyone for the second time.

About propaganda. The story of pedophiles who have become “victims of the Holocaust” has a very interesting sequel. It factually shows the methods of propaganda of Israel. If you want, I will bring them



Sorry but you are the one with the subjective history.

If it had not been for us the British whom were already struggling and at any time only two week's away from starving if our ocean lifeline had been cut by the NAZI wolf pack's sending food and supplies we badly needed ourselves via the North Atlantic Convoy's YOU would likely not even exist today.
Most Russian's would have been slaughtered by the NAZI's to make room for Hitler's dream of a region in which he could expand his population planting new little Germany's built around selected breeding program's in what you today call Russia, it was NOT Zhukov brilliant though he was - and he was able to pull your armed forced back together in spite of Stalin's butchering of most of your competent officer's - that saved you it was our supplies, weapon's and ammo as well as medical aid and food.
The thank's we got was to be back stabbed by both Roosevelt and Stalin whom made a deal over Churchill's head, a deal that nearly made him walk out of the Yalta talk's in rage.
So instead of freeing Poland and in spite of the fact YOU only survived thank's to our aid at a critical time in the war which gave you time to move your industry east, time you could not have bought without our aid I might add Russia instead Seized Poland AND half of Europe.
They did NOT do it because of there inherent greatness or military prowess they did it by BACKSTABBING and making deal's with the American's at YALTA.
NOW GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.

You know what happened to the Free polish fighters when they went back to Poland from the west after fighting the NAZI's for years - the Soviets lined them up and murdered them because they feared these fighting men would resist there occupation of Poland and indeed they would have.
And that is a dog cowardly ACT of a sniveling conniving group of evil men every bit as bad as the NAZI's.

You know if you think we never got invaded because that is what your history book's say and most people today and because there is no record of it.

My mother whom has recently passed remembered talking to an old soldier whom told her the NAZI's had indeed invaded, it was the old men from the first world war whom had build trap's and bunkers hidden from sight and the NAZI's walked right into them and were SLAUGHTERED, a disaster the NAZI's never wanted known and a victory probably won using outlawed weapon's including mustard gas by these old soldiers but for week's and week's and week's burned German body's were washing ashore.

His word's there are thousands of German's buried were they invaded and no one will ever know about it.

And I will tell you something about Gratitude, we were your friend when we sent you those supply's but Russia ceased to be our friend when they invaded Poland which we and France had originally gone to war to liberate from the NAZI's and you know the only reason we then did not keep on fighting was not fear of you but because our entire economy had been mortgaged to the American's and were otherwise flat broke.

I have never disliked the Russian's, hell I never met any until fairly recently and despite the fact I hate communism because of how it became twisted into something Utterly evil and perverse I am a socialist in my moral and political persuasion.

They way you phrase it was wrong as well, hell you would think ONLY Russian's lay down there lives, forget all of my family whom died fighting or as in one case simply walking down the street when a German bomb hit one brother blowing him to smithereens while the other brother was unscathed but in complete shock as the brother he had just been talking to was now completely gone, forget the fact that our city's were almost completely leveled in some cases by the blitz and if we had not been getting bombed you would most certainly have had all of those German bombers bombing the hell out of you.

Every lad whom died in that war fighting AGAINST the Nazi's was a hero, so were over 50.000 German's murdered by the NAZI's for being there political opponent's before the war.

But don't go hero worshiping Stalin whom murdered nearly as many of your own people as Hitler did.

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posted on Feb, 14 2019 @ 03:01 AM
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Great post.



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