a reply to: Raggedyman
made women more equal to men aye !
Sure we create a monotheistic organised religion with a male deity as the supreme being , and that totally made woman more equal !
Replacing already established pantheons of male and female gods, where women were already equal to or greater than men!
I am not talking about the birth of the scientific method or when we had our periods of enlightenment
Im talking about the underlying human characterisitics which already gear us towards a scientific method.
Repeating a process using the same methods and acheiving the same results , shamans are just really early scientists , well thats my opinion of
They used herbs and mushrooms to achieve an outcome , the whole system is recorded in song and story and handed down through generations as a vocal
The same as any other school , also there were already great places of learning before the church came and built their places of worship , all of the
sacred celtic teaching places in the UK were repurposed by the church when christianity converted the majority of the celtic people of the UK , these
were places of learning for bards , who went on their lifelong learning path to become a Druid !
So shamans didnt offer anything to science is what you are saying ?
Despite the fact that the understanding of various plants and animals has given so much to science
from the treatment of depression with psilocybins to the search for autoimmune cures for crohns disease
to the treatment of addictions with ibogaine. There are many things we have learned from shamans in the jungle
The scientific revolution was not because of the church , sure it helped greatly due to their control and wealth.
but I really find it laughable when we say the church helped science flourish when it spent so much time and effort suppresing it as magic and
Sorry I couldnt help but laugh at the reformation , do you know how many people died in Europe because of the reformation ?
The thirty years war was one of the most bloodiest periods in human history , 8 million people or near that died because of the war and all the other
death from plage and famine. I wonder how many of that number could have been a scientific genius ?
another example of why the church was a direct enemy of knowledge , well the dark ages are referred to due to the corruption of the catholic church by
the protestant christians, and also because there was a clear lack of documentation and writing compared to antiquity .
What did we have in antiquity , we had polytheistic cultures !
Just saying , monotheism wasnt really that great for science !
edit on 11-2-2019 by sapien82 because: (no reason given)