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originally posted by: tovenar
No one thought prohibition would go thru in 1890. But they submitted the same amendment year after year it it happened.
originally posted by: r0xor
I don't think there's anything wrong with the law at all. If I thought there was some sort of low key push towards eventually making firearms illegal going on here, I'd probably be shouting about this but from my perspective all that I'm seeing is: making all arms sales easily trackable by making sales and transfers of weapons only performable through a licensed dealer. A licensed dealer is simply a guy who wants to sell guns (legally to customers who can legally own them with no worries) who is willing to pass a background check to ensure he has no gang, terrorist, criminal affiliations (having committed non violent crimes in the past, including possession of, but not selling, drugs shouldn't automatically disqualify you and each applicant should be reviewed in detail). Each sale gets registered and each owner is liable for that weapon. Making it harder for guns to fall into the wrong hands and being able to know who purchased a gun after it was found at a crime scene or on a criminal -- oh no, this is an attack on our rights and the second amendment.
In the 1700s, the Forefathers hadn't the slightest clue what the future would be like, how large the nation would be, how big the cities would be. They had no clue that semi and fully automatic firearms would ever exist, let's be honest. That said, the intent of the second amendment and the reason for it is still true and relevant, plus you can't simply grandfather clause or white out an amendment of the constitution. However, in 21st century real life, we have to be realistic and practical about how we allow it to be utilized. In other words, it can never be striped or taken away, even if it proves to be obsolete or becomes an exploited problem, but we as a nation can regulate it for the better good. That means every citizen who can legally own a firearm and wants one can own one, or five of them, easy! You just have to get it from the official sources but no worries because you're not about to goto war at home or abroad, you know when you're going to go hunting and buy it ahead of time, or if you're a collector, you wait for it and then you put it in a room with all of the others.
Even if you prove that guns are being sold to criminals and future killers, that guns in crimes are bought in crimes, this still shouldn't bother you to the point of protest. No one is going to say you cant own a gun, no one is going to try to seize your guns, you probably don't like having to wait and having to only buy from certain stores but I'm sure patients who are prescribed medications wish they could easily go on the internet and find competing pharmacies with dirt cheap prices on their controlled substances. Things that are dangerous are controlled. I wish I could buy alcohol after midnight. What's the point of a 6 hour window where I can't buy it, 12am-6am? What is that really going to accomplish? Stop the crazy DUI guy from chugging another steel reserve at 3am before killing someone in an accident? Extremely, extremely unlikely. Very statistically improbable. Those of us who responsibly drink alcohol, even excessively would never in a million years be that guy, much less be at 7-11 after midnight for alcohol that would contribute to a DUI. Nonethless.. these safeguards are put into place.
The purpose of this Act is to utilize the current background checks process in the United States to ensure individuals prohibited from gun possession are not able to obtain firearms.
originally posted by: seeker1963
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: TheJesuit
As I expect Trump to sign it in a "deal".
If he does, and Venezuela turns into what many of us expect....
The wall won't mean much to most.
I would support a fast track for citizenship for everyone from Venezuela who wanted to become a US citizen! They get it!!!
originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: StoutBroux
The bill as a whole could actually be named Closing the Gun Show Loophole, whereby unlicensed dealers can sell firearms to any ole stranger with the cash.
In many states the gun show loophole has already been closed.
and few "unlicensed dealers" will sell to just anyone because the gun couldn be tracked back to them if used in a crime.
i go to gun shows out of state and ask people walking around trying to sell there guns if they want to sell it to me and never have been able to buy one.