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@AOC Claims Crazy Green New Deal Document FROM HER OWN WEBSITE Is a Fake

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posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: roadgravel
The ocasio-cortez.house.gov..." target="_blank" class="postlink"> original page cached on archive.org.

web.archive.org...://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/media/blog-posts/green-new-deal-faq


Link Shortened to work here: Green New Deal FAQ




posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

So where does it say there's 'free stuff' for people unwilling to work in the document? The list is loud and clear to GIVE JOBS. Where's this whole free stuff thing coming from?



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

That's not what the document says!



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

Yeah, I replaced it with the shortened link because ATS doesn't like the long format.



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 07:17 PM
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And if you can't manage your hair game as an adult, I'm suppose to take you serious and not think you're living in a van down by the river?



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Lumenari

So where does it say there's 'free stuff' for people unwilling to work in the document? The list is loud and clear to GIVE JOBS. Where's this whole free stuff thing coming from?


THINK about the term, "unwilling to work". If they are unwilling to work, then offering them a job is just plain stupid....because, get this, the are UNWILLING TO WORK!!!

Are you really that dense!??!?!



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

You're assuming everyone is lazy and wants a job handed to them.


A job with family-sustaining wages, family and medical leave, vacations, and retirement security


Where does it say anywhere in that sentence they are giving jobs away to unwilling people work?

You're assuming so much here it's ridiculous, why? Because pushing for employers to give sustainable wages is a socialist ploy to undermine the American dream? I know this is a conspiracy theorist haven of a forum, but seriously, take the tin foil hat off for once and actually think how life works. The proposal is loud and clear that AOC's foresighted government just wants equal opportunity to have a thriving economy. Read the whole god damn document.



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Krakatoa

You're assuming everyone is lazy and wants a job handed to them.


A job with family-sustaining wages, family and medical leave, vacations, and retirement security


Where does it say anywhere in that sentence they are giving jobs away to unwilling people work?

You're assuming so much here it's ridiculous, why? Because pushing for employers to give sustainable wages is a socialist ploy to undermine the American dream? I know this is a conspiracy theorist haven of a forum, but seriously, take the tin foil hat off for once and actually think how life works. The proposal is loud and clear that AOC's foresighted government just wants equal opportunity to have a thriving economy. Read the whole god damn document.


Then, explain to me why they even mention the term, "unwilling to work" at all? Huh? They must have meant to include it int he context of the list, or it would not be listed.

And, forcing a company to pay someone what the govt determines is "fair" is ridiculous. It bypasses all forms of supply and demand econmics. I know you are against that and are willing to pay someone flipping burgers$35/hr, the same as a white collar worker, or other job that requires advanced education.

Me, I prefer striving to be better to advance my own fate. I abhor the government being "my daddy". I am and adult, and don 't need them wiping my nose and feeding me anymore.



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

That, and we already have a bloated government made up of bottom-of-the-barrel workers and generous Section 8 vouchers. Let's not expand these programs further. New York City mayor De Blasio wants government to have much more control over housing and private property, look up what he would like to do should have have carte blanche.



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: strongfp


Where does it say anywhere in that sentence they are giving jobs away to unwilling people work?


It doesn't say, "they are giving jobs away to unwilling people to work," it says:


It guarantees to everyone:

A job with family-sustaining wages, family and medical leave, vacations, and retirement security
High-quality education, including higher education and trade schools
High-quality health care
Clean air and water
Healthy food
Safe, affordable, adequate housing
An economic environment free of monopolies
Economic security to all who are unable or unwilling to work


What do you think it means when it says a guarantee of economic security to all who are unwilling to work?



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

You're in Canada why the long face?



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: strongfp

You're in Canada why the long face?


Perhaps its because that person is unwilling to work and wants a free handout. And, if this passes, they can come on down to the U.S. and live off the govt teat? Oh, and at the expense of all of us hard working taxpayers.



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: strongfp


Where does it say anywhere in that sentence they are giving jobs away to unwilling people work?


It doesn't say, "they are giving jobs away to unwilling people to work," it says:


It guarantees to everyone:

A job with family-sustaining wages, family and medical leave, vacations, and retirement security
High-quality education, including higher education and trade schools
High-quality health care
Clean air and water
Healthy food
Safe, affordable, adequate housing
An economic environment free of monopolies
Economic security to all who are unable or unwilling to work


What do you think it means when it says a guarantee of economic security to all who are unwilling to work?


wow, I think that solidifies the point. Sad it had to go this far, but it's better to be out in the open.



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 08:02 PM
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Government jobs don't actually benefit the economy.

It's all shuffling tax payer money around. If the government took 200K out of work people and gave them all government jobs at 50K a year, that wouldn't be a positive thing for the economy.



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 08:33 PM
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Wow. You really should read up on just what feudalism was and how it worked.



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: DBCowboy

That's not the proposition. Read the proposal.

Also, yea it is. You pay taxes, the government should provide at least the assistance to put a roof over peoples head. Otherwise we end up with feudalism.

Actually , that WOULD lead to feudalism
And the Democrat Socialists know this
Get it ?
Democrat Socialists

Again , you need to research some history before posting

edit on 2/9/19 by Gothmog because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Lumenari

Yea, so where's the original document? I asked for it, and it's no where to be found. SHOCKING. So here we are, arguing over nothing, based on a nothing website just saying a bunch of BS.


Again, you missed the point. Nope, it's not anywhere to be found...now. But a few days ago those words WERE found in the FAQ on OAC's site. Some of us here on ATS saw these words in situ, there on OAC's site. Some of us even copied them from her site and pasted them in posts or tweets or emails. However, those words we saw and copied and pasted have now been altered, and AOC is claiming that they never existed EVEN THOUGH PLENTY OF PEOPLE SAW THEM THERE. (Speaking of, did anyone here have the forethought to take a screenshot?) Do you see what we're trying to say now?



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Krakatoa

That's not what the document says!


Actually it is. It's the last bullet point in the first list. Let me paste it here for you:

[Quote] Economic security to all who are unable or unwilling to work

ocasio-cortez.house.gov..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Original document (like you asked for) archived before the alteration



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: strongfp


Where does it say anywhere in that sentence they are giving jobs away to unwilling people work?


It doesn't say, "they are giving jobs away to unwilling people to work," it says:


It guarantees to everyone:

A job with family-sustaining wages, family and medical leave, vacations, and retirement security
High-quality education, including higher education and trade schools
High-quality health care
Clean air and water
Healthy food
Safe, affordable, adequate housing
An economic environment free of monopolies
Economic security to all who are unable or unwilling to work


What do you think it means when it says a guarantee of economic security to all who are unwilling to work?


Hmmn...that you'll be given money (you know, economic security) for sitting on your ass and refusing to work? Duh. What on earth do YOU think it means?



posted on Feb, 9 2019 @ 09:05 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: xuenchen

Where's the original document?


Retrieved from the memory hole and posted here ...

Enjoy it.




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