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Hey, Democrats, I've lived in a socialist country with income 'equality' and it was miserable

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posted on Feb, 11 2019 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: WilsonWilson
This website has gone downhill, what a moronic op.


Well this is an immigrant OP complaining of Socialist policies, but you are hating on an immigrant eh?

Hard to play in the middle when it is an Immigrant so you are having to go full retard in order to ignore the contradictions.

NEVER go FULL retard, for one you can only look worse for it.




posted on Feb, 11 2019 @ 07:42 PM
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Why is the OP targeting democrats?

Oh yea.. because if SOME democrats advocate socialism, obviously they all want it.



posted on Feb, 11 2019 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: fleabit
Why is the OP targeting democrats?

Oh yea.. because if SOME democrats advocate socialism, obviously they all want it.
when the ones thst don't stand up to the idiots that do perhaps the dems will stop being incuded?
Cean up your yard and you won't get eyesore tickets.



posted on Feb, 11 2019 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: fleabit
Why is the OP targeting democrats?

Oh yea.. because if SOME democrats advocate socialism, obviously they all want it.


Please list which democrats openly oppose it then.

A long wait will ensue.



posted on Feb, 11 2019 @ 08:28 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: fleabit
Why is the OP targeting democrats?

Oh yea.. because if SOME democrats advocate socialism, obviously they all want it.


Please list which democrats openly oppose it then.

A long wait will ensue.


I suspect we expect if there are any they don't number enough to run off the Commie idiots trying to change the world like AOC.
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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 06:17 AM
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As I get up today I hear the news on a radio say the "daily, crazy democrat update news next, stay tuned".



That is how bad it is these days.



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: darkbake
You are making a few mistakes here. First of all, socialism is not the same as communism. Period. Even Cortez is not interested in government control of corporations, but for more worker input. No one wants the government to own corporations, which is what happens in communism. Cortez wants more worker input. This happens in countries like Germany with no issues like the dire ones you are predicting.

The Soviet Union and China are not our allies (unless you are a conservative and have a hard-on for Russia), and we are not planning on emulating their policies, not even Democrats. If you look at other countries, like those in Scandinavia, they are doing perfectly fine with some aspects of socialism.

You have to be smart enough to discern between different aspects of socialism and communism and see if they are being implemented in the U.S. or plan to be implemented in the U.S. You cannot pretend that Democrats want to implement policies that they don't want to implement. You have to look at each issue individually, otherwise, you will end up pretending like all of these things are going to be implemented in the U.S. that are simply NOT going to be.

And, let's not forget, if you are an idiot and can't discern fact from fiction, it will make it so that you are not able to make effective policy decisions or decisions in general because you will be basing them on false information.

For example, no one, not even Democrats, are wanting to imprison people. That is a straw man argument.

Right now, workers do need more say. They are not able to afford rent and insurance and food even working full-time.

While the rich have been getting richer, the normal folks in our country have actually lost buying power since the 1980s. The stock market doesn't predict the quality of life for most of America anymore, because it has less and less to do with how much they get paid and their expenses. It only has to do with the rich and those able to invest. And trickle-down economics has factually been proven not to work.


Tell a lie often enough ...

The Scandinavia countries are NOT Socialists countries. Nor do they have anymore "aspects" of Socialism than the US

sverigesradio.se...

sweden.se...

www.forbes.com...


The glory days for Sweden economically took place prior to the 1960s, when they had a free economy, low regulation and lots of wealth. Between 1870 and 1950, Sweden had the highest per capita income growth in the world and became one of the richest countries, behind only Switzerland, the U.S., and Denmark.

In the 1960s, Sweden started to redistribute wealth, which brought wealth creation to a halt. By the mid-1990s, the country had growing economic problems because it continued to redistribute wealth it wasn’t creating. It was at this juncture that many of the wealthy (ABBA band members included) and entrepreneurs were leaving Sweden. In 1994, Sweden began implementing the following measures designed to reverse this trend:

Reduce Regulation
Reduce Government Spending
Reform their Welfare Programs
Shrink their Government

Sweden has continued on this path for the last 24 years, which has brought them a modest rate of growth, but not nearly as robust as pre-60s levels due to government taxation remaining high.

fee.org...

In others words, the only time in history when Sweden was an economic powerhouse was when it amassed wealth through capitalism. The only time in history that it's economy began to seriously falter was when it tried Socialism. Finally it took a return to free market capitalism to reverse the negative economics created by flirting with Socialism. Other than higher taxes, Sweden today is in many ways more capitalist than the US.
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posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 12:36 PM
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Socialism. The most recent fear mongering term for the right, who LOVE to spread fear among their base.

Remember the good old days when it was Muslims who were out to get you on every street corner? Now it, socialism and illegal immigrants. Hell, they'll tell you that illegal border crossings are at an all time low out of one side of their mouths and tell you it's a damn national crisis out of the other, just to make sure their base stays scared.

Let's look at the minimal, yet apparently quite evil, socialist leaning services out there:

police
fire and emergency response
libraries (God forbid!)
food and medical assistance for the poor
infrastructure (although my Republican run state would love to turn roads over to foreign companies to make everything a toll road)



posted on Feb, 12 2019 @ 12:50 PM
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originally posted by: usernameconspiracy
Socialism. The most recent fear mongering term for the right, who LOVE to spread fear among their base.

Remember the good old days when it was Muslims who were out to get you on every street corner? Now it, socialism and illegal immigrants. Hell, they'll tell you that illegal border crossings are at an all time low out of one side of their mouths and tell you it's a damn national crisis out of the other, just to make sure their base stays scared.

Let's look at the minimal, yet apparently quite evil, socialist leaning services out there:

police
fire and emergency response
libraries (God forbid!)
food and medical assistance for the poor
infrastructure (although my Republican run state would love to turn roads over to foreign companies to make everything a toll road)



Ask the people of Venezuela if Socialism is just a scare word.
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posted on Feb, 13 2019 @ 02:13 AM
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LOL! Last I checked Democrats aren't trying to get rid of capitalism and replace it with communism. What a joke.



posted on Feb, 13 2019 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: RKWWWW

originally posted by: usernameconspiracy
Socialism. The most recent fear mongering term for the right, who LOVE to spread fear among their base.

Remember the good old days when it was Muslims who were out to get you on every street corner? Now it, socialism and illegal immigrants. Hell, they'll tell you that illegal border crossings are at an all time low out of one side of their mouths and tell you it's a damn national crisis out of the other, just to make sure their base stays scared.

Let's look at the minimal, yet apparently quite evil, socialist leaning services out there:

police
fire and emergency response
libraries (God forbid!)
food and medical assistance for the poor
infrastructure (although my Republican run state would love to turn roads over to foreign companies to make everything a toll road)



Ask the people of Venezuela if Socialism is just a scare word.


Authoritarian Socialism isn't the same as Democratic Socialism. Just ask the people of Norway... or don't because it doesn't support your narrative.

The people of Norway enjoy:
~ A booming economy with a GDP of over $70,000 per person
~ A life expectancy of 81.7 years
~ An infant mortality rate of two per 1,000 live births
~ A murder rate of 0.51 per 100,000
~ An incarceration rate of 74 per 100,000

The fact is that we in the US live in a hybrid society both economically and socially. Capitalism in it's purest form doesn't exist in the US anymore. In the 20th century, the pure capitalist laissez-faire style economy was done away with during the progressive era. Now we have regulations that prevent monopolies and protect the rights of workers.... which is a form of socialism.



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: jacobe001

Well seems that "real" food ( fruit/vegies meat ) prices are rising by about 15-20% per year, way above inflation. Sure they'll blame it on bad weather/crops increased demand to feed the wealthier export markets; meanwhile packaging sizes of canned etc foods are adjusted downwards with a price increase and all you're getting is fillers sugar and salt.

To bring it in line with your post you are eating junk just enough to keep you fit (sarcasm) working the "machine" till 55/60 then its over to Pharma to drain what remaining $ you have left to ease the pain.

We are already working for nearly "free" without realizing it.



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: Extorris




More people are capable of independent and objective thought in this country than the Right Wing Propagandists assume.


If that were true the MIC/lobbyists/war for profit/big pharma would not hold such powerful positions in the USA.

The revolution would have started after the Vietnam war. But rinse repeat seems the way to go. As long as they have their illusion of choice and distractions the people will never storm the gates.

Nothing to do with left/right propaganda.

But you have subscribed to the mindset that there is choice and difference between the 2.

Cosmetic differences and wedge politics keep the masses busy.



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: Justoneman

Socialist utopia? - you completely missed the point.

this is the topic


I've lived in a socialist country with income 'equality' and it was miserable


The boot is on your throat, like I said Socialist welfare for the Banks bail outs.


Only some one brain washed or mentally handicapped would allow a boot on their throat


The citizens accepted the boot; they believed the system would crash around them if the banks failed. Funny how banks were successful before the Fed took control in 1900's and privatized money creation.

Wait till the derivatives bubble bursts then it'll be too late to wake up.




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