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An honest question for proponents of the "New Green Deal".

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posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

If you have 10 marbles and I have none, then I would propose "The Green New Deal (for marbles)"

Where I get all of your marbles.

Now you and everyone else will scoff.

So I will compromise and only want to take 5 of your marbles.

Many will say, "Well DB compromised, so this is a good thing!"

And I get to take 5 of your marbles and leave you with 5 less.


Thus endith the lesson.





posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

All legitimate questions.
I really find it hard to believe any member on ATS is dumb enough to back this ridiculous plan.
It would be easier just to eliminate all forms of money and let everyone take what they want.



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:29 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: annoyedpharmacist
a reply to: Lumenari


The plan is a sure fire way to destroy this country in well less than the 10 years it is supposed to fix it in. That actually may be the purpose of it to begin with. Much easier to fundamentally transform this country, when it is in shambles and the people are desperate.


You can't seriously think that the actual objective of this deal would be to destroy the economy so that they could offer an answer to the misery after?

That would be so transparent... no thinking adult would support that!

It would be like never letting a good crisis go to waste, or something to the effect.



what was I thinking, they would never do anything like that



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm in the oil industry and am off-grid.

I think that we should work a little harder to get off of fossil fuels (GASP!!!)

However, this bill is a big Progressive wet dream... a wish list from Karl Marx.

BUT!!!!

I'd like to hear from someone who is good with this bill exactly how the "Get Off Of Fossil Fuels In Ten Years" thing will work in reality.



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:31 PM
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Straight to re-education for you!!!!




posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:32 PM
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An 'honest' question that's not really looking for any honest answers.



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

It's not realistic.


But neither was The Affordable Care Act.

This is just the opening salvo. It's a first step in bargaining.


You know that.


They always demand full retail plus 50%.

The buyer (us) will either (smartly) walk away or (stupidly) try to bargain Ayuk down.

If we bargain down, we're buying into it.


We should walk away.


Ayuk is my new name for AOC (Alexandia Ocasio Cotez)



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: links234
An 'honest' question that's not really looking for any honest answers.


I actually am.

Do you have an answer?

I'd love one... I don't know everything and would like to know if I'm just missing something.

I've certainly been wrong a few million times in my life.

That's how I learn.

Do you have an answer to any of my questions?



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:42 PM
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go back to sail boats
go back to riding horse
go back to ice houses that deliver ice to your house
go back to "return bottles or pay 2 cents more deposit"

I agree, something to curb pollution has to be done, but it will only be done with a gun or many guns.

China and India are a good example what is happening with the air, water and soil.
The thing about this is, the air pollution hits America, the poison water is used to grow crops that are sent world-wide and the soil is horrible contaminated.

All coming your way. Enjoy
Please put AOC in charge of cleaning the Whitehouse toilets. Maybe she'll understand that it takes more then wishful thinking to flush them stinky toilets at night time.



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66
a reply to: Lumenari

All legitimate questions.
I really find it hard to believe any member on ATS is dumb enough to back this ridiculous plan.
It would be easier just to eliminate all forms of money and let everyone take what they want.


I'm dumb enough to back it.
I think it should be a major plank in the 2020 Democrat Party platform....Please.



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Bravo, very well said.



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Lumenari


Ayuk is my new name for AOC (Alexandia Ocasio Cotez)



Hmm, Ayuk is OK but "The Moron" is a more descriptive and accurate name for AOC.



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:50 PM
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honest answer

just reading for 1 minute cause i knew nothing about it points me to you embellishing quite a lot

honest answer is it seems to me it is not supposed to work cause it is never going to be

www.foxnews.com...



While the resolution itself would do very little because it is non-binding, it is the first time the policy proposal has been formally outlined in Congress.


very little
non binding

ok

and then what it is supposed to do


The resolution says “a new national social, industrial and economic mobilization on a scale not seen since World War II and the New Deal” is an opportunity to tackle systemic injustices toward minority groups, create millions of high-wage jobs and “provide unprecedented levels of prosperity and economic security for all people of the United States.”


so i dont know



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:53 PM
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Here is a bit you , or for that fact, not many know is the energy consumption of elevators.

Now, don't get me wrong, but AOC's plan is totally ludicrous,

There are old elevators being replaced with new ones that are energy efficient . We are in the process of doing this all over the place. Keeps me working till I retire in 4 years.


kebblog.com...



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:53 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
honest answer

just reading for 1 minute cause i knew nothing about it points me to you embellishing quite a lot

honest answer is it seems to me it is not supposed to work cause it is never going to be

www.foxnews.com...



While the resolution itself would do very little because it is non-binding, it is the first time the policy proposal has been formally outlined in Congress.


very little
non binding

ok

and then what it is supposed to do


The resolution says “a new national social, industrial and economic mobilization on a scale not seen since World War II and the New Deal” is an opportunity to tackle systemic injustices toward minority groups, create millions of high-wage jobs and “provide unprecedented levels of prosperity and economic security for all people of the United States.”


so i dont know



So you know nothing about it, read my OP and I am embellishing it.

/facepalm



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:56 PM
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I wonder why anyone would even want college when they could just take the guaranteed income and do zero ?

😎



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
I wonder why anyone would even want college when they could just take the guaranteed income and do zero ?

😎


Because they would want to work hard for their country so it could succeed!

See.. that's exactly where socialism falls apart.

But this time it will work!!!




posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

yeah .

cause all this sky is falling crap thats going to happen is never going to happen.

it reads to me like that anyway

nothing to say about any of that right?

figures
edit on 7-2-2019 by TinySickTears because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 08:08 PM
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Go to the source. Ask Cortez for a detailed explanation of how it will be paid for, including all numbers from her studies and and access to all the studies and data she used herself to come to her conclusion 10 years would work.

She says we could replace planes with high speed rail but I wonder, how does that work for Hawaii and what would that cost to create whats needed to handle the 2.6 million who fly daily according to the FAA. How many passengers does one of those trains hold and how do they cross oceans. How long would it take to build and how much land would have to be taken away from the owners.

It takes 10 to 15 years to permit a new power plant or solar farm. How does that work. How do they stop the lawsuits that add more years to that.

Questions I would ask.
edit on 2/7/2019 by Blaine91555 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 7 2019 @ 08:08 PM
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The Dems (with any brain cells left) that are currently praising this...are patronizing AOC and her brain-dead followers...in the same way Mom and Dad put little Jimmy's undecipherable crayon drawing of the family dog on the refrigerator door.



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