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Are The E.U. Panicking Or Just Getting Nasty ?

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posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: ManFromEurope
a reply to: alldaylong

Then they were very poorly informed. And indeed, that was exactly what happened.


I think sometimes people are well informed and come to different conclusions than one another.



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posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: ManFromEurope
a reply to: alldaylong

Then they were very poorly informed. And indeed, that was exactly what happened.


Again, in your opinion.



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong

Was Tusk wrong in what he said? He didn't say Brexit in itself was wrong (although we all know his views there) and he didn't aim those remarks at people that voted for Brexit. Instead, he aimed it for those that promoted and campaigned for Brexit without plans in place for how this could be achieved.

Personally, i completely and utterly agree with him. People like Cameron (who ran away) and Boris Johnson (who has no asnwers to anything other than trying to further his political career) deserve nothing but out contempt.


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posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: Flavian




Was Tusk wrong in what he said


He is out of order for saying it.

The U.K. took a democratic decision to leave. Tusk is interfering with U.K. internal politics.

The E.U. don't like democracy.
edit on 6-2-2019 by alldaylong because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 10:14 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong

Why is he out of order? Not trolling, simply don't understand your comment. Possibly my standards are unrealistically high but i would personally expect someone campaigning for something to have an inkling of how it could then be implemented.

Whether pro or anti Brexit, it is perfectly clear that the Brexit team really had no idea how to even begin withdrawals, what was involved, etc. That is selling us all a pup and deserves our complete and utter scorn. I am amazed anyone can even defend them, to be honest.



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 10:16 AM
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originally posted by: Flavian
a reply to: alldaylong

Why is he out of order? Not trolling, simply don't understand your comment. Possibly my standards are unrealistically high but i would personally expect someone campaigning for something to have an inkling of how it could then be implemented.

Whether pro or anti Brexit, it is perfectly clear that the Brexit team really had no idea how to even begin withdrawals, what was involved, etc. That is selling us all a pup and deserves our complete and utter scorn. I am amazed anyone can even defend them, to be honest.


Read the bit i just added to my last post.

For your benefit it reads " Tusk is interfering with U.K. internal politics "



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong

"We send the EU 350,000,000 pounds weekly"
Oh noooo

More?



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 10:26 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: alldaylong

I remember thinking when Britain got into the European union that they would probably regret the decision sooner or later.

Your fair share would never be enough.



They've got to prop up Greece, Italy, et al some how. "Soak the rich" . It's all the rage. It's just the same socialism that failed the Greek and Italians on an international scale. "We don't have enough money here; if we could just get the UK, France, and Germany to pay their fair share..."



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 10:28 AM
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So this loon equates freedom and self-direction with hell? What a tool. I am so happy for you all getting out of that failure of an idea.



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: ManFromEurope

Uhhh... but *what* is the plan?


What business is that of yours?


originally posted by: alldaylong

The E.U. don't like democracy.


I would go further and say the EU seem afraid of democracy.



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 10:52 AM
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Back to the OP, I think that the EU is both panicking and getting nasty.

As for Brexit voters being "ill informed" and all that hot air have we not done all that to death on all the many Brexit threads on here?

What is the point arguing the toss over and over again?

Let's just get on with it.

Stiff upper lip, and all that.



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Thank you. Let's just hope we do manage to get out!




posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: ManFromEurope
Seriously, nobody expects the UKs' government to come up with any kind of plan. It will just be a multi-month-long episode of blame-shifting, on-the-moment-decisions and generally accusing the EU of everything that goes *BOOM* and stops working.

And the Brexiteers will point at the EU.

While having done absolutely no planning besides blame-shifting.

It will be a rolling road-crash, complete with thunderstorms and lightning, very very frightening.


Not to be pedantic, but should that be nobody expects the UK Parliament to agree to any kind of plan?



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 11:12 AM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Flavian
a reply to: alldaylong

Why is he out of order? Not trolling, simply don't understand your comment. Possibly my standards are unrealistically high but i would personally expect someone campaigning for something to have an inkling of how it could then be implemented.

Whether pro or anti Brexit, it is perfectly clear that the Brexit team really had no idea how to even begin withdrawals, what was involved, etc. That is selling us all a pup and deserves our complete and utter scorn. I am amazed anyone can even defend them, to be honest.


Read the bit i just added to my last post.

For your benefit it reads " Tusk is interfering with U.K. internal politics "


Why is he interfering? Is this like the baby like squealing some people did when Obama stated that in his opinion the UK would be better remaining, but those squealers didn't seem to mind when Trump said it was a good idea?

Should Johnson, Mogg and the others have kept their mouths shut and stayed out of EU internal politics when they come out with their drivel?
edit on 6-2-2019 by uncommitted because: changed a 'said' to 'those'



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: Flavian
a reply to: alldaylong

People like Cameron (who ran away) and Boris Johnson ...


They are (or were) both members of The Bullingdon Club. Maybe you should google that. It is (possibly) the English equivalent of Skull & Bones.



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
The EU is acting like the problem will go away if they refuse to cooperate. Of course it won't.


But the "problem" as you put it is our British problem, not the EU. We decided to leave the single market so it's our proble. They are a single market....................... You are either in it or out of it and the British lemmings voted majority out, now WE have a problem. just the other day Nissan pulled out of building their planned X-Trail here and Brexit is one of the reasons. To say we are in a mess is an understatement and the problem is ours, we were only ever 7% of EU trade and they can easily do without it.



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 11:26 AM
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I don't understand isn't it with in Donald Tusk's power to help come up with a plan that would see Britain exit safely?

What part of hell will he be going too for not doing so?



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: ManFromEurope
a reply to: alldaylong

Uhhh... but *what* is the plan?


Blue passports and...

Actually that's pretty much it.



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
The EU is acting like the problem will go away if they refuse to cooperate. Of course it won't.


But the "problem" as you put it is our British problem, not the EU. We decided to leave the single market so it's our proble.


Sure it's your problem ... but my question would be why do you want to be tied to the hip with partners who would rather see you sink than help you out with your problem?

It's not like you didn't help them out with their problems in the past; now it's their turn to do the right thing.



posted on Feb, 6 2019 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
The EU is acting like the problem will go away if they refuse to cooperate. Of course it won't.


But the "problem" as you put it is our British problem, not the EU. We decided to leave the single market so it's our proble.


Sure it's your problem ... but my question would be why do you want to be tied to the hip with partners who would rather see you sink than help you out with your problem?

It's not like you didn't help them out with their problems in the past; now it's their turn to do the right thing just cause it's the right thing to do.




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