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Are The E.U. Panicking Or Just Getting Nasty ?

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posted on Feb, 13 2019 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: Mover3

Nissan si not all Brecit generated sure, but we have had it damned good while in the EU and if you think for a minute about how car industry works you get a day to supply from plants in the continent to get product made and supplied to Sunderland................. Fact of the matter is the EU as an economy works exteremely well for the Japanese over here

The Japsanese love Great Britain, they are here as we are the aircraft carrier off the continent to supply the half billion Euros. They have always admired us Brits as they have a similar situation being the small island off the great mainland and also love our history and culture and time old ways, also our incredible engineering heritage just so similar in all these ways to their own.

Now the mad are goung to risk our Japanese plants for a little bit of mentally retarded Jingoism throwing in the towel to return to the nightmare called the early 1970's




posted on Feb, 13 2019 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: Mover3

Nissan si not all Brecit generated sure, but we have had it damned good while in the EU and if you think for a minute about how car industry works you get a day to supply from plants in the continent to get product made and supplied to Sunderland


Good business's know this and *planning and preparation are key*.

They will need to change their procedures and order in anticipation.




Fact of the matter is the EU as an economy works exteremely well for the Japanese over here


Fact of the matter IS....... Japan is not in the EU and the UK is Leaving

get used to it, life goes on change or go under.



The Japsanese love Great Britain, they are here as we are the aircraft carrier off the continent to supply the half billion Euros. They have always admired us Brits as they have a similar situation being the small island off the great mainland and also love our history and culture and time old ways, also our incredible engineering heritage just so similar in all these ways to their own.


So it shouldn't be so hard for them to support the UK in their NEW status

as an independent nation again.



posted on Feb, 13 2019 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: eletheia

Well as long as there are no tarrifs we'll all be ok. Why would any investor want to locate going forward in an small independent island off the continent when it can't compete due to a Single Market? It's total nonsense from an economic viewpoint and the Brexiteers are going to be te end for this once great and prosperous member of the EU. Abe and his clan know what they want that's a Britain linked in with its neighbours............... Japs love us over the Europeans and that is fact, truth be told they'd twin with us Brits and always modelled themselves and their state 100 years ago on ours. Now we stab them in the back, total disgrace to a people who along with Maggie saved our disintegrating socialist state at the beginning of the 80's. Without the Japs we'd be an industrial has been but they saved us from certain death, now the people vote them out of their island leemmings to the slaughter
A single market is a single market and we will go the way to certain strangulated and starved suffocated writhing gasping death



posted on Feb, 13 2019 @ 01:28 PM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

It's total nonsense from an economic viewpoint and the Brexiteers are going to be te end for this once great and prosperous member of the EU. Abe and his clan know what they want that's a Britain linked in with its neighbours............... Japs love us over the Europeans and that is fact, truth be told they'd twin with us Brits and always modelled themselves and their state 100 years ago on ours. Now we stab them in the back, total disgrace to a people who along with Maggie saved our disintegrating socialist state at the beginning of the 80's. Without the Japs we'd be an industrial has been but they saved us from certain death, now the people vote them out of their island leemmings to the slaughter


I'll just leave this here AGAIN '
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Eurozone crisis: German output slumps AGAIN - fears grow for bloc’s largest economy
GERMAN industrial output surprisingly fell in December for the fourth consecutive month, putting the eurozone on high alert and increasing concerns around Europe’s biggest economy.


GERMAN industrial output surprisingly fell in December for the fourth consecutive month, putting the eurozone on high alert and increasing concerns around Europe’s biggest economy.

The latest data from the country’s Federal Statistics Office revealed industrial output was down 0.4 percent on November. This was in complete contrast to a forecast from Reuters for an increase of 0.7 percent. Industrial output was also down 3.9 percent on the same month a year earlier.

The Federal Statistics Office said the motor sector - vital to Germany’s economy but has been a drag because new emissions standards translated into fewer new vehicle registrations - rebounded as output rose more than seven percent.
Thomas Gitzel of VP Bank Group, warned not to expect an upturn in the German economy anytime soon.]/b]
He said: "A positive GDP reading in the fourth quarter of 2018 now looks tight.

“A positive industry reading would have reduced the chance of a negative GDP reading in the fourth quarter."
It is the latest in a series of blows for Germany’s economy - valued at £3trillion - as it struggles to rebound from struggles in 2018.
Last week, the country’s manufacturing sector plunged into contraction territory, dropping to 49.7 points in January from 51.1 in December, according to the latest figures from IHS Markit.


www.express.co.uk...


Not a bright outlook? ...... in fact on the skids??

And the not so happy France.... Italy..... Hungary...... and silent Greece.



posted on Feb, 13 2019 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: uncommitted
I know it came from the Daily Mirror originally, not sure why you are suggesting I do my research.

I suggested you do your research because you must have remembered incorrectly and now making false stories . If Nigel Farage had really demanded another referendum, it would be on all the MSM and played repeatedly to this day.


I also know it was widely reported. The TV piece I am referring to was where he expanded on it - sorry, I said I'm not going to do an exhaustive trawl of Nigel Farage videos on youtube to back myself up because to be quite honest I don't feel the need.

Well you saved yourself some time then because you wouldn't have found it anyway.


I wasn't comparing Farage with all who voted leave and I have fairly much made that clear several times during this thread.

I must have missed that part...


Your use of the phrase 'you remainers.....' however suggests you do see commonalities in a group of people based purely on how they voted. It's common though, you Brexiteers all do it all the time

When I used the phrase "you remainers", it was highlighting how a lot of you on ATS seem to lie and don't have the correct facts. I've pointed out a few mistakes from remainers on ATS just in the past few days, it really is a common theme.



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: 83Liberty

You didn't see the BBC article that oldcarpy posted a page or so back then?

Come back to me to talk about liars when the NHS gets £350 million a week, then we can have perhaps a balanced discussion.



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 02:58 PM
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Interesting article I came across written by Patrick O'Flynn MEP


Blame Blair for the mess EU has made of Brexit

The pressure on the Brussels high command as Britain's March 29 leaving date looms. The trail, fascinatingly, leads back to a plot to stop Brexit spearheaded by none other than former PM Tony Blair.

EU insiders tell me that Tusk allowed himself to become convinced Brexit was going to be overturned after a plan was constructed between senior Brussels figures and British pro-Remain politicians, led by Blair, that seemed to be working perfectly.
Part of the plan involved Brussels playing hardball in negotiations, so that the deal Theresa May was able to put in front of MPs was profoundly unappetising.

That advice to Brussels was relayed by a stream of pro-Remain visitors from the heart of the British establishment.
One of them, the philosopher AC Grayling, was even caught on camera telling the European Parliament's Brexit chief Guy Verhofstadt: "What would help the Remain movement in the UK is if the EU is very, very tough and uncompromising on a deal."
And so it came to pass, with the EU offering Britain almost no concessions but us being tied to the interminable "Irish Backstop" with no unilateral right of escape.
Indeed, when the Withdrawal Agreement negotiated by Theresa May was defeated by 230 votes in the House of Commons in mid-January, Tusk dropped a public hint that he now thought Britain would stay in the EU, declaring: "If a deal is impossible and no one wants no-deal, then who will finally have the courage to say what the only positive solution is?"

Last year that he stepped up his efforts, insisting he believed he could prevent it. He publicly stated in November: "Up to the end I am going to do everything I can to stop it."
In an interview the previous month he gave a clue as to how: by using the pro-Remain majority in the Commons to defeat the Government and secure a postponement in our leaving date.

This in turn would be used to fight and win a second referendum.
"If you do get to a blockage in Parliament that is what opens up the possibility of going back to the people," said Blair.

The trap was meant to spring shut on Brexiteers in a series of Commons votes on January 29. '


The key one was an amendment put forward by Labour's Yvette Cooper - a one-time protegé of Blair's - and the Tory MP Nick Boles.
It sought to outlaw leaving the EU with no deal and put back the target date for Brexit to the end of the year, leaving time for the Blairite "People's Vote" campaign to force a second referendum in the autumn.

Given the 230-vote thrashing May had suffered a fortnight earlier, the Remainers were confident of success.
But that was not how it panned out. Instead a motion was passed backing the Withdrawal Agreement provided the Irish backstop was removed.
Now BRUSSELS FEARS the result will instead be the UK leaving on WTO terms on March 29.

That would reduce the EU's access to its biggest export market just as several EU countries are on the verge of recession, put in jeopardy most of a scheduled £39billion UK divorce payment and leave the Republic of Ireland facing a very difficult time.

If Mrs May can exploit this new dynamic and hold her nerve then there is a very good chance that the Irish backstop will indeed have to be dumped and a more equitable leaving deal agreed.
And there is no doubt in my mind whom Mr Tusk is really angriest with.

Not Brexiteers, but the has-beens of the Remain campaign - Blair chief among them - who led him up the garden path.
As he noted coldly in that same press conference on Wednesday, "there is no political force and no effective leadership" for a bid to keep the UK in the EU.

Translation: Mr Blair may think he is a messiah, but to the bigwigs of Brussels he is now just a very naughty boy.



www.express.co.uk...


He cant help himself can he?
I particularly like the bit

*Mr Blair may think he is a messiah, but to the bigwigs of Brussels he is now

just a very naughty boy.*



posted on Feb, 15 2019 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: 83Liberty

You didn't see the BBC article that oldcarpy posted a page or so back then?

Come back to me to talk about liars when the NHS gets £350 million a week, then we can have perhaps a balanced discussion.

You mean the BBC article that was reporting the Mirror's interview with NF?
Of course I have read it, I read everything. What's your point? It doesn't prove you're correct.

I knew that the £350 million a week was a lie and so did the vast majority of people from both sides. The fact that they used the gross figure, rather than the NET figure was stupid on their part and every time it was mentioned it was debunked by the media, remainers and even Brexiteers anyway. 'Whataboutism' (which you are doing) doesn't defend your incorrect allegation that NF said he demands another referendum.




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