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Cuomo worried that Democrat strategy to tax the rich not working in his state.

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posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 05:35 PM
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Amazing how people here love the rich so much. I could assure you they don’t need your sympathy.

It’s always baffled me why people who aren’t rich, millionaires, or billionaires lose sleep over rich people paying taxes.

Like you worship them or something.

As for any worry about the rich leaving any state…That’s why there should be a NATIONAL law on raising taxes on the rich


If they don’t like it go move to Russia and we get to confiscate your ill-gotten gains




posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 05:41 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

I want them to pay taxes. Lots of taxes. And the more business they do, the more taxes they pay and the more jobs they create.

It's like a sale. A company lowers prices to drive more sales. So less % on each transaction, but they make more money in volume. I want us to do volumes of business.

If taxes were zero, we would make no revenue off of them. There is a comfortable middle ground between "don't want them to pay taxes" and "let's take 90% of their money and discourage inside investment" .



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

More like most of us who aren't blinded by our own greed and envy realize that just because someone has more than we do does not mean they deserve to have it confiscated.

I could give a flying rat's @ss what some person way over there has that I don't. All I care about is having the chance to make what I need. Taking what some other guy has that I don't won't give me that chance.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:11 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Or some of us realize that the very top in our economy use the system to steal all the profit from the workers who create it. The whole financial sector, which is completely set up just to take money from others through interest, gambling schemes, and creating bubbles, is the only growth sector in our economy the last decade. They make their money by giving people debt. And they create this debt out of thin air, not by lending money they have. And we understand that the last 40 years, the most productive, where the productivity of each worker has more than doubled, the actual share of gdp to labor has gone DOWN. Meaning the bosses just chose to take more of the profits created for themselves, give less to the workers, while demanding more work. This is a degrading game of numbers which will continue to decline the living standards and security for workers while giving the wealthy elite more money whenever they chose.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: pexx421

And, out of curiosity, what do you do and how much do you think that is worth?



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:17 PM
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a reply to: Willtell




Amazing how people here love the rich so much. I could assure you they don’t need your sympathy. It’s always baffled me why people who aren’t rich, millionaires, or billionaires lose sleep over rich people paying taxes. Like you worship them or something.


Whats baffling is the democrats saying the rich and corporations don't pay taxes and their solution is to raise the tax rate they aren't already paying.

The democrats completely fail to see that the reason they aren't paying their fair share is not because of the tax rate its because of the exemptions and deductions they use.

So the democrats solution to increase the tax rate on the rich is completely worthless, because they will use deductions and other loopholes to not pay them. It will be the middleclass that pays it.

So why aren't the democrats pushing for a flat tax versus pushing for a worthless tax hike the won't touch the rich?



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:24 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I do ultrasound. Market value to a worker is about 70k annually. I probably create about a million a year in profit. I generally do 3-4 procedures a day, billed at 26k each, and 4-5 scans a day generally between $300-$1200 each. Last hospital I worked for was hca system, biggest health care system in the us, claimed a banner year making over 500 billion, their best year ever, and cheered about it in a meeting.... right before telling us they couldn’t afford more than a 2% raise that year. Which is funny because until 08 5% a year was industry standard. Indeed, we have to switch jobs in the medical field every few years just to get our appropriate raise. The longer we stay at the same place the longer we just get 2% each year.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: interupt42

That’s not baffling. The democrats are largely the same corporate whores that the republicans are. They would never really do anything to hurt their constituents..... the corporations. So my vote will go with whoever has the least corporate backing. That’s the best indicator of who really is anti establishment. And as Wall Street has recently stated they are fine with anyone but sanders and warren, guess where my votes likely to go.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:28 PM
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They just need to fix deductions. Either cap them at a set percentage of gross income or better yet eliminate them entirely. I'm even fine with a graduated rate wherein the "rich" pay a higher percentage. It doesn't even bother me that the bottom 50% pay zero (though I'm confused on how some poor manage to get a refund bigger than their annual deductions --on top of tax-payer aid, presumably). But right now there are laws that discourage domestic investment and repatriation, and they've bought thousands or millions of lines of exemptions in current tax codes. It's worst of both worlds.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:38 PM
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Amazing how people here love the rich so much. I could assure you they don’t need your sympathy.


That's mighty bigoted.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:40 PM
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Well, there you go ... health industry. One of the most screwed up by regulation and interference from various sources, including but not limited to the government and various insurance companies.

It might be different if you were simple fee for service structure, but thanks to the current system, you can't be, and not even socializing you will change that.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:40 PM
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As for any worry about the rich leaving any state…That’s why there should be a NATIONAL law on raising taxes on the rich


Institutionalized DISCRIMINATION.

The only thing richphobes are missing are the white robes.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:51 PM
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That’s not baffling. The democrats are largely the same corporate whores that the republicans are. They would never really do anything to hurt their constituents..... the corporations.


Agreed, what is baffling is not the DNC and GOP being the same corporate whores . What is baffling is the individual democrats and republicans that don't see it and expect their party to fix the issues their party created in the first place.





So my vote will go with whoever has the least corporate backing. That’s the best indicator of who really is anti establishment.

And as Wall Street has recently stated they are fine with anyone but sanders and warren, guess where my votes likely to go


The corporate backing isn't front loaded always it sometimes comes back in the backend .

And if you are going with anti establishment no doubt would be trump.

Unfortunately, Bernie sold his soul and spit on his message when he backed one of the most unethical candidates ever (hillary) that Made trump look like a cub scout.
And No i didnt vote for trump nor support his BS, but the best thing he has going for him is ALL the right people hate him (MSM,GOP,DNC, and tech corporate America)

1024th American Indian Warren no chance in hell. She and Bernie have been around the cesspool too long to not be rotten. tulsi gabbard if you are going to give trump a run for his money but the DNC will squash that.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: neo96


As for any worry about the rich leaving any state…That’s why there should be a NATIONAL law on raising taxes on the rich


Institutionalized DISCRIMINATION.

The only thing richphobes are missing are the white robes.


And when the rich decide to leave the country, that's when they'll be all in favor of finally building a wall ... to keep us all in so we can't escape their thievery.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:54 PM
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So long as everyone moves to destroy any anti-establishment candidate instantly and thoroughly, we have no chance. The problem is that not every anti-establishment candidate is created equal. I won't vote for a leftist Marxicrat just to vote in someone who is anti-establishment, for example. That cure would be far worse than the actual disease.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: neo96


As for any worry about the rich leaving any state…That’s why there should be a NATIONAL law on raising taxes on the rich


Institutionalized DISCRIMINATION.

The only thing richphobes are missing are the white robes.


And when the rich decide to leave the country, that's when they'll be all in favor of finally building a wall ... to keep us all in so we can't escape their thievery.


That's what they want.

They don't want any rich people.

They just supplant them with low information soon to be voters called illegal immigrants.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 07:08 PM
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I disagree. The establishment was way more afraid of sanders than they were of trump. And the democrats and all the bankers and corporations that support them preferred to lose to trump with Hillary than to win with Bernie. The negative media and media blackout on sanders far outstripped its actions on trump. They don’t like trump, they fear sanders. Sanders merely thought Hillary would be better than trump. He was gravely mistaken, but everyone has their flaws. Above all, regardless of what you or I think of his ideas, he is an honest and decent person. That’s makes him one of two or three people in our current government.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 07:29 PM
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disagree. The establishment was way more afraid of sanders than they were of trump.


Sanders endorsed the establishment so I'm not so sure how afraid they really are of him besides rhetoric.

Had Sanders been truthful and loyal to his message like Ron Paul was when he didn't endorse anyone in his party then maybe I would agree.

Plus the corporations would love nothing more than a quasi capitalist/socialist system that bernie is proposing , as it makes for a more powerful bigger gov't . Since corporate America and deep pockets control the gov't they want bigger gov't as it gives them more control of the people and the market.

What we need NOW is a viable libertarian candidate to get control of the corruption and conflict of interest is by decreasing decrease govt. I know wishful thinking, but its what we need.

Once we decrease govt and work on the conflict of interest in gov't, then lets talk about building it back up . RIght now if you expand gov't its only helping the corporations and screwing the middle calls and below .

it makes no sense to give more power or money to a group of individuals riddled with conflict of interest and corruption.

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posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 07:43 PM
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Eh, libertarians with their “free market” theology will lead to the tyranny of the corporations. Today’s libertarians are the opposite of classical libertarian theory, an ideology that’s been twisted and corrupted by the corporations and msm psyops to make the working class vote against their own self interest. They will remove the last restrictions from corporate power.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 07:46 PM
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The free market originally meant free from monopolies, interest and exploitation. They’ve been taught now that it’s the opposite and they root to free it and the corporations from all government regulations. This is the opposite of what it’s supposed to be.




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