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Climate Change Laws Implemented by AOC, then Another Arctic Blizzard Occurs in Several States.

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posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: moebius
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Why are you having such huge problems differentiating between weather and climate?

Is it education... or the lack thereof?


Wow... Seriously people. I am not the one not able to differentiate between weather and climate. What you, and others are claiming is that during climate changes there are no weather phenomenon like arctic blizzards/polar vortex...

But try to claim that I am the one in need of an education... lol




posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 07:22 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep

The plan by the dems is to phase out the fossil fuels while at the same time slowly replacing them all with renewables.

By the time fossil fuels are down to around 20-30% of our energy renewables will be already providing the rest that we need.
So, if in the end our energy needs are met then why does it matter where that energy is coming from?

Personally I choice to use the cleaner source for my energy needs.



It would take a long time, if any replacement for petroleum products can be found at all, to be able to find something to replace all the petroleum products that we use as a modern society.

This won't happen in our lifetime, and if it does happen, you can say goodbye to the millions of people who need these products to survive.


originally posted by: scraedtosleep
Aoc is like trump . She is just throwing stuff out there and seeing what the people will go for. It gets the people talking . And I like that.
I know that most of what she wants will never happen, nor would I want just one person to decide these things. But we are talking about change. And that's a good thing.


AOC is not like POTUS Trump AT ALL.
AOC is making false claims, and giving false promises, and she wants socialism which will destroy the nation and implement just another socialist authoritarian regime.

Imagine the U.S. becoming India, or Venezuela. Under socialism the state decides who gets the better jobs, and you have to be willing to sacrifice your own family. Anyone in your family protests against the implementation of socialism at any time in their lives, and you can forget about those family members. You will have to disavow any family member who decides that socialism will be no good.

Imagine your son, or daughter, or your brother, or sister, or anyone close in your family deciding that "they don't want socialism at some point in their lives." If you want to keep your good standing under socialism, not just communism, you have to be a pawn to the socialist authoritarians in charge, and just forget about those people in your family who won't want socialism.

In India the higher ups decide who can go to the universities, even Gandhi had to ask permission to attend the University. The state also decides who gets the best jobs, and it has nothing to do with your skills, but rather who is the most loyal lap dog to the socialist regime.

In Venezuela Chavez himself made public a list of people, in the millions, who were protesting against socialism and didn't want Chavez in power. That list, the Tascón list, was used to deny millions of Venezuelans jobs, deny them rights, including the right to a passport, and people were also harassed by the Chavistas, and many were even beaten.


originally posted by: scraedtosleep
It looks like things aren't quite ready for implementation on a large scale just yet.


It will take a very long time for "renewable energy" to replace fossil fuels, and even then you can't simply get rid of fossil fuels. Modern technology needs petroleum products, like rubber, plastic, asphalt, lubricants, waxes, ink, upholstery, toothpaste, etc, etc.

There are 144 products made from petroleum that we need in order to continue to be a technological society. Without these "petroleum products" we would have no roads, no plastics, no computers, no pace makers, etc. Not to mention the fact that we would be using horses, and other animals to move heavy equipment.

This "fantasy world" that AOC made up in her mind, alongside her useful idiots, only exists in her mind. If we were to implement these "drastic measures" that AOC, and others like her want, we would be going back to the stone age.




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posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 07:33 PM
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originally posted by: roadgravel



It is illegal to burn coal, it is illegal to use natural gas for heating, it is illegal to use nuclear power for electricity, etc, etc. All fossil fuels are banned


Not in my state. Must be that Mandela guy's stuff.


Again...read the op... My op is an scenario in which "AOC's dream of getting rid of all fossil fuels becomes a reality." It is a "what if her dream comes true..." Capiche?



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 05:54 AM
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These climate change people lost face when they ran with global warming.

Global warming is too slow to record and not making big changes.

So they had to ditch that term and now use the term climate change...

Like the climate will really change. Thing theory called seasons really exists.

This child is very unintelligent.

Still haven't came across one person who voted for her.



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 05:56 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Is it not amazing how she wants to do awa y with fossil fuels but has no ideas how to effectively replace it?
Only foreseeable tech that could allow this would be fusion power generation but we are nowhere near being ready to do that .
It's nice to have lofty ideas but sometimes you need to temper those ideas with good old fashioned common sense.



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 06:20 AM
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Everybody jokes about an arctic blizzard, is anyone going to address the fact that it will be 60° warmer less than a week after all these freezing temperatures? That doesnt seem odd to anyone?



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 06:53 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX


Imagine believing that Solar can't be used in the snow...

Imagine believing that solar power is generated without solar energy, or maybe that snow is not opaque.


Imagine believing there are no other alternative power sources...

Imagine actually researching the efficiency, requirements, and scalability of other potential power sources.


imagine being blinded by so much bias you make simple-minded statements out of ignorance

You don't have to imagine that. You're already there.

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 06:56 AM
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a reply to: doclec


is anyone going to address the fact that it will be 60° warmer less than a week after all these freezing temperatures? That doesnt seem odd to anyone?

Around these parts, we call it 'weather.' Weh'-thur. It's a noun.

And I am thrilled. 70s this Thursday! Yeeeeeeee-HA!

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 07:21 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

it is not illegal to burn coal or use natural gas for heating.
I have natural gas heat and hot water and stove.
This is nothing but another lie.

oh and once again for the idiots.... weather and climate are not the same thing.


LOL, don't.....ever.....change!

if you were a cartoon character, you would be a giant question mark with a confused look on your face. You make me smile.



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 07:52 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

70° in February after having temps in single digits less than a week ago.

 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Ok buddy.
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posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 08:29 AM
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originally posted by: doclec
Everybody jokes about an arctic blizzard, is anyone going to address the fact that it will be 60° warmer less than a week after all these freezing temperatures? That doesnt seem odd to anyone?



Not if your old and have seen it before.




posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: mikell

Are you old and have seen it before?



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: mikell

Are you old and have seen it before?



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 01:21 PM
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I feel sorry for those who despise AOC, but for those who voted for her...I hope they freeze. As they say, stupid people, win stupid prizes.
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posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

I dont despise AOC, and I feel sorry for those who do because what they cant understand is timing. In time, we experience inflection points that make some people a perfect fit for a sea change inflection point. JFK for example, or Ronald Reagan.

AOC is perfect for a sea change inflection point in societal and economic change. Those who despise her really wont see her coming until its too late.



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: TonyS

She's a Socialist. She can put the word "Democratic" in front of it all she wants, but all Socialism states have ended up the same way. The same as Venezuela right now and the same as America, were it ever to accept such a suicidal system. You can't tax Billionaires 70%.....BECAUSE THEY WON'T SIT AROUND AND TAKE IT. THEY WILL LEAVE! They will take their business and set up over seas. Who then will run the companies...who will own the companies....who will give people jobs? Who will the Socialists tax when they leave? YOU, that's who. Then the bread lines and Venezuela all over again. Geez...don't you Liberals ever consider the future, or study history? Socialism has never worked, isn't right now, and never will. AOC is a bimbo who speaks from emotions, and that is always a bad idea when real human lives are in the mix. Change is one thing, but for once, I would like to hear a Liberal say "Change for the BETTER". You can't just "change" a system because we have more social media, therefore more people with an opinion. It doesn't work that way.
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posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: doclec
Everybody jokes about an arctic blizzard, is anyone going to address the fact that it will be 60° warmer less than a week after all these freezing temperatures? That doesnt seem odd to anyone?


That "weather" event will be regional... Which shows it is a weather phenomenon and not a climate event...

Where I live, almost in the middle of the states, for the next two weeks it is "predicted" that the temperatures will remain at about 2-22 degrees F.


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posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: doclec

This weekend it drops back down to around normal. Disappointed?

I am.

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 09:04 PM
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originally posted by: TonyS
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AOC is perfect for a sea change inflection point in societal and economic change. Those who despise her really wont see her coming until its too late.


I don't despise her, but I know from experience that her "socialist policies" will only bring worst change.

This is similar to what many of us were saying about "Venezuela's embrace of socialism of the 21st century."

You can change it's name to whatever you want, whether it is named democratic socialism, or socialist democracy, it will always be socialism. In these same forums when Chavez took control the left keep saying "these change to socialism will bring equality to all, poor people will prosper, etc, etc." Many people in Venezuela "believed" the false promises about socialism, and in the U.S. many in the left are making the same mistake.

People like me pointed out that "these changes" were the same "changes" that occurred in countries like Cuba. For years, despite the fact that millions of Venezuelans protested in massive protests, the left kept on claiming: "Those people protesting are the rich, and/or CIA spooks who work for the U.S." Similar idiotic, and absurd claims were uttered by many in the left in these forums for years.

Like all socialists do, the regime of Chavez/Maduro disarmed the regular people, and then Maduro armed all the Chavistas, because using the military like Chavez was doing against the protesters is no longer viable. Even people who were once "Chavistas" have woken up to the truth of "socialism." It doesn't work, and it will never work.


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posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 12:46 AM
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Some serious idiocy here. When has taxing the rich ever caused inflation? When has it made them leave? When has it caused lost jobs? What dozens of socialist countries have failed, electric universe? Where in socialism does it say you can’t have freedom or own property? And how is the us pushing a coup in another country, after stealing all their money, sabotaging their economy, and engaging in trade war with them, how is all that a failure of socialism? Socialism is indeed bad, as if anyone ever tries it they get a serious case of CIA, ngo’s, and jack boots, and that’s seriously bad for a nation’s health. You all have no idea what socialism is, and are regurgitating bs party lines. Americans are the most highly propagandized people in the world, in all of history, and it shows. Please stop arguing about socialism when you have neither read any books written by real actual socialists, or listened to any whole speeches by real Marxist economists. Otherwise you just sound like a bunch of little trump/Limbaugh pull string dolls. Every. Single. Thing y’all say I’ve seen on 1000 memes and right wing talk shows.




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