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Climate Change Laws Implemented by AOC, then Another Arctic Blizzard Occurs in Several States.

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posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Pretty sure lithium extracting is no where near as devastating on a process as oil, coal and natural gas on an environment. For one, lithium comes from literal natural dead oceans and seas, nothing can or does grow there if anything it can create life by removing the over saturation of salts.
Two, it's just a process of pumping water electrolyte solution into a few meters under the surface to force more salts to the surface.

Whereas you have things like coal mining, fracking, and tar sands which require massive machinery, destruction of massive amounts of land, chemicals, more fossil fuels, the list goes on. Your comment is wrong in that regards.




posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:25 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

How often has a powerful stormed knocked out the grid, and people wait it out with no power, no heat, no water? We need to modernize our infrastructures and grid and look to clean and renewable energy.


A powerful storm doesn't equal to a blizzard that lowers temperatures as much as -50 degrees F...



So? I'm talking about grid failure and power outages. IT doesn't matter if you're using gas or electricity if the grid goes down. This weekend in New York, in Broklyn, prisoners were locked in their cells with no lights, no heat, no water for more that 48 hours. The were banging SOS on the windows so people on the outside could hear.


Inmates without power at New York federal prison shivering in their cells for days
Many inmates at the federal detention center in the New York borough of Brooklyn have experienced a lack of heat because of a partial power outage, the director of Federal Defenders of New York David Patton and a representative for the union representing the facility's workers said.
www.wktv.com...


Brooklyn detainees bang on prison windows for help during cold weather blackout (VIDEO)
Shocking footage filmed outside a federal prison in Brooklyn, New York, shows inmates apparently banging on the walls and windows of their cells to draw attention to their freezing conditions.
www.rt.com...


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posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep




The tech gets better all the time though.


The problem is alternative tech is still in it's infancy.

Fossil fuels has been around since civilization began.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: neo96

End goal, not all at once.

And only once other cleaner forms of power are as efficient.

Stop believe the propaganda that is telling you that dems are going to shut down the energy production so we all freeze , burn , and starve.

They don't want that. They CAN"T do that. They do not have the power to do that. Not even if the dems controlled all the branches of government would they do that.

Your living in fear.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:26 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: scraedtosleep

We can never have real glory as long as a part of our society is miserable.


Sorry to rain on your parade, but socialism does not make everyone rich...It makes everyone poorer than dirt, except the elites...

Thats what we have right now!!!! under this form of right wing capitalism!!! the elites have it all the rest have next to nothing!!!!



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:29 AM
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originally posted by: LDragonFire

How well does your grid work when someone takes out a transformer because they couldn't see based on climate change induced fire ramming there suv into a relay station?


You should stop drinking and typing.


originally posted by: LDragonFire
How well does your grid work when power lines are down because of snow and ice?


But isn't Anthropogenic Global Warming supposed to melt all ice, icebergs, etc?...


originally posted by: LDragonFire
Pretty good considering there in a well insulated area. Your grid work your car?


I am starting to get a headache because you can't differentiate between "there" and "they're." Not to mention your last statement, which makes no sense whatsoever. "Your grid work your car"? What in the world does that even mean?



originally posted by: LDragonFire
I would rather have my own system than depend on your grid


How do you think they produced your "own system"? With renewable energy?...

Not to mention, once "fossil fuels are phased out", how do you intent to replace the plastic parts needed for solar panels to function properly?...

What "new product" will be used for making pace makers, and equipment which are to this day made with plastic, and other "fossil fuel products and by-products?"

Where do you think plastic comes from?

What will you use to replace rubber, tires, etc??



edit on 3-2-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:30 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Solar panels get better all the time and they are not the only type of green energy being implemented.




How do you ensure thieves won't steal them?


How do you stop someone from stealing your new car? Or robing your house for the much easier to carry away electronics?
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posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep




And only once other cleaner forms of power are as efficient.


Which does only one thing outsource pollution to the third world, and makes us more dependent on foreign supplies.

Destroying entire industries here, and making products more expensive.

Destroying millions of middle class jobs.

FOR EFFING WHAT?

So you can pat yourselves on the back saying you 'care'?

Unless People like Cortez control the entire world, and the only way to do that is WAR(bad for the environment).

The church of climatology accomplish nothing, but taking what little we have left from us.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:32 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: scraedtosleep

Smaller populations,

Smaller economies.

Smaller industries.

Smaller everything.

That imports a snip load of products from Polluters like CHINA.

That's how they 'work'.

Perfect example of the low information right wing opinion.


China has more solar energy capacity than any other country in the world, at a gargantuan 130 gigawatts

BBC



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:35 AM
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a reply to: LDragonFire

Yeah right!



The report says that at present China has 993 gigawatts of coal power capacity, but the approved new plants would increase this by 25%.



www.bbc.com...



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: neo96




always like to snip about that they don't have, and never look at what they do have.


One of the bigger problems facing the united states today.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:38 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep

Solar panels get better all the time and they are not the only type of green energy being eliminated.


Err, are you still drunk? Do you have any idea what you just typed? "Solar panels get better all the time," "they are not the only type of green energy being eliminated."

In your first part of your statement you argued that "solar panels get better all the time," and then you argued that solar panels are not the only type of green energy being eliminated?


originally posted by: scraedtosleep
How do you stop someone from stealing your new car? Or robing your house for the much easier to carry away electronics?


My vehicles are inside a locked garage. Not to mention my belongings are "inside my house..." They are not outside...



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:40 AM
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Every time I see "climate change" I think of the precession of the earth and wonder when we got a data base of daily weather 26,000 years long. We have at best 150 to 200 years of data, so about 0.77 percent out of 100..deny ignorance.... or not..



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I don't care much about socialism or being rich.

Some socialist ideas I agree with.
Capitalism has good things to.

I think we are smart enough to come up with a mix of good ideas pulled from different sources to make something that works better then what we have.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:41 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep

One of the bigger problems facing the united states today.


Obviously you have never seen, or experienced what happens when socialism takes over a country...

That's one of the problems with the left these days. None of you want to learn from history what socialism really does to a nation, and it's people.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep

The biggest threats that face Americans today is political hacks like AOC and her party.

ALWAYS thinking they know best, when they don't know jacksnip.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
...
Some socialist ideas I agree with.
Capitalism has good things to.


Socialism and capitalism don't go well together. Only one or the other can exist...


The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism. Karl Marx

Read more at: www.brainyquote.com...

What the above means is that socialism can't have opposition, and capitalism is the opposition of socialism.

The ideas ingrained in socialism do not allow for a free society, nor for human rights which always begin with "individual rights."

Socialism, and communism seek to destroy individualism in favor for "the collective." Individuals do not matter, hence individual rights are destroyed to favor the "belief in the collective."


originally posted by: scraedtosleep
I think we are smart enough to come up with a mix of good ideas pulled from different sources to make something that works better then what we have.


Really?... So why is it that "the left" isn't smart enough to say when enough is enough?... Socialist/communist regimes have murdered over 110 million people, and imprisoned countless millions more in just 100 years.

People like you forget that "a little socialism" in Germany, and Italy allowed for the rise of National Socialism.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Something that bothers me very much.

That's why I was excited that trump was going to try and fix it.

And he might still end up doing that.

Thank you network dude for paying for part of my healthcare and helping to save me.
I really mean that. Thank you.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:52 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: neo96




Those 'glory' days do not account for modern government programs, and 'benefits' or the millions of people on them.


We can never have real glory as long as a part of our society is miserable.


Part of our society will always be miserable.

What you espouse would certainly make me miserable, socialism would make many miserable, but it would be different people who would be miserable.


It just boils down to redistribution of wealth.


The poor get what the wealthy earned.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

They don't care if we're miserable slaving away to pay for their free snip.


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