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Climate Change Laws Implemented by AOC, then Another Arctic Blizzard Occurs in Several States.

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posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:01 AM
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a reply to: GokuVsSuperman0

You need coal to mass produce steel, which every first world nation needs to thrive.
But, coal for energy use is basically useless, it burns hot and fast and creates to much pollution.




posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:02 AM
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a reply to: neo96

How well do solar panels work in other countries ?

How do they get around those types of problems?



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:03 AM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep

Smaller populations,

Smaller economies.

Smaller industries.

Smaller everything.

That imports a snip load of products from Polluters like CHINA.

That's how they 'work'.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:03 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse


There is so much wrong with the replies to your OP.

First off, people are confusing the Statutory Tax Rate and Effective Tax Rate. Folks, if you're going to go on about 70% and 90% tax rates, educate yourself. What the communists in government want to do now is raise the effective tax rate to 90%, thereby tripling what was paid in the 1950's.

Also, people forget that fossil fuels are responsible for plastics. Like on the computers we're all using.

Also the electricity we get to power our "electric" cars comes from coal-fired factories.

And the mining for lithium for solar panels and electric cars etc has been devastating to the environment.

The left is filled with ignorance.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:05 AM
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And the mining for lithium for solar panels and electric cars etc has been devastating to the environment.


Was that the kind that like to EXPLODE?




posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:06 AM
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a reply to: neo96




Every modern 'green' energy system has a GENERATOR backup power by diesel or propane/Natural gas(fossil fuels).


I see no problem in using both together? Why do you?

Less pollution (not just co2) is better is it not?

And it doesn't mater if the u.s. is the only one cutting back on pollution. Although they are not.
This is our home. I am going to try and keep it as clean as I can for as long as I can.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:06 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: DBCowboy




And the mining for lithium for solar panels and electric cars etc has been devastating to the environment.


Was that the kind that like to EXPLODE?



Only when exposed to things like. . . oxygen.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:07 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: ElectricUniverse




All fossil fuels are banned.


The plan by the dems is to phase out the fossil fuels while at the same time slowly replacing them all with renewables.

By the time fossil fuels are down to around 20-30% of our energy renewables will be already providing the rest that we need.
So, if in the end our energy needs are met then why does it matter where that energy is coming from?

Personally I choice to use the cleaner source for my energy needs.



when they work, everything is nice, And some have limitations.
www.americanexperiment.org...
It looks like things aren't quite ready for implementation on a large scale just yet.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:08 AM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep

Because Cortez and her dumb snip party want ALL fossil fuels banned.

Means NO Propane or Natural gas.
edit on 3-2-2019 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:08 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: DBCowboy




And the mining for lithium for solar panels and electric cars etc has been devastating to the environment.


Was that the kind that like to EXPLODE?



Only when exposed to things like. . . oxygen.


I meant batterys.

I misread.

Exploding green energy batteries.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:09 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep

Solar panels are used in some of the coldest countries on earth. They do just fine.
www.worldatlas.com...

The thing is your premise only works if ALL fossil fuels are banned BEFORE an alternative is ready to replace it. No one is going to let anyone do that.


Solar panels don't work that well when the sun is blocked by clouds. They can only produce maybe 15%-25% at most of their typical output. It won't be enough for much. Not to mention the prices of solar panels. They can cost as much as $15,000 U.S.D. What happens if they break? Do you have the technical knowledge to fix them if they break, or malfunction? What about theft? How do you ensure thieves won't steal them? Having solar panels outside your home, you are brandishing for all to see $15,000 or more for the newest models. Not to mention the fact that in 10-15 years you have to replace them.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:10 AM
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Those 'glory' days do not account for modern government programs, and 'benefits' or the millions of people on them.


We can never have real glory as long as a part of our society is miserable.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
How well do solar panels perform during California wildfire's that made people wear mask's and the haze is so thick people can hardly see?

How well does your grid work when someone takes out a transformer because they couldn't see based on climate change induced fire ramming there suv into a relay station?


How well do solar panels perform with several feet of snow, and are covered with ice.

How well does your grid work when power lines are down because of snow and ice?


How well does battery storage work in sub freezing temperatures?

Pretty good considering there in a well insulated area. Your grid work your car?


Every modern 'green' energy system has a GENERATOR backup power by diesel or propane/Natural gas(fossil fuels).

Alternative energy is a DELUSION. Because it does NOT work as advertised.

I would rather have my own system than depend on your grid



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:13 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: neo96




Those 'glory' days do not account for modern government programs, and 'benefits' or the millions of people on them.


We can never have real glory as long as a part of our society is miserable.


That will be never because people like Cortez always like to snip about that they don't have, and never look at what they do have.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:14 AM
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I can tell you that for me the dems fixed healthcare.


No, that is a fact. It saved my life. From cancer.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:15 AM
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I would rather have my own system than depend on your grid


Why do you hate poor people so much?

Subsi dies!
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posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:18 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep

We can never have real glory as long as a part of our society is miserable.


Sorry to rain on your parade, but socialism does not make everyone rich...It makes everyone poorer than dirt, except the elites...



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:21 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: ElectricUniverse




All fossil fuels are banned.


The plan by the dems is to phase out the fossil fuels while at the same time slowly replacing them all with renewables.

By the time fossil fuels are down to around 20-30% of our energy renewables will be already providing the rest that we need.
So, if in the end our energy needs are met then why does it matter where that energy is coming from?

Personally I choice to use the cleaner source for my energy needs.



when they work, everything is nice, And some have limitations.
www.americanexperiment.org...
It looks like things aren't quite ready for implementation on a large scale just yet.


Agreed.
The tech gets better all the time though.

Aoc is like trump . She is just throwing stuff out there and seeing what the people will go for. It gets the people talking . And I like that.
I know that most of what she wants will never happen, nor would I want just one person to decide these things. But we are talking about change. And that's a good thing.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:22 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: neo96




I can tell you that for me the dems fixed healthcare.


No, that is a fact. It saved my life. From cancer.


it's wonderful that you benefited from the hardships of so many others. I'm glad that you were able to have the help you needed. But while you are enjoying things, please remember that a large portion of the population who had health insurance prior to the ACA lost it when it was implemented.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:23 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: LDragonFire

IF they were thriving then social security and medicare/medicaid wouldn't have been created.

Those 'glory' days do not account for modern government programs, and 'benefits' or the millions of people on them.

We got more, our roads bridges, rail line, ports, airports were all maintained not like the 3rd world country the right has created, all the libraries were funded and open. We had great education system, not the rights gutted system we have toady. The income inequality the right fights so hard for didn't exist we were much better off then when the taxes were high and our economy didn't crash unless a republican was in office.



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