We have been gathering the different threads into META thread if so we can keep them concentrated enough to be searchable. Finding something on ATS
can be a real pain even if it is as little as six months ago. Older? Unless it was a major thread, good luck!
In this case, we making a thread on the Chinese J-20 stealth fighter. China is the only country than the US to have operational stealth aircraft.
The J-20 had its IOC in 2017. There were 8 prototypes and then there has been at least 20 built an LRIP. These are in active service. Reports are
that the Chinese will produce between 300 to 400 examples.
The J-20 has been long speculated as being an interceptor. However, the Chinese have come out to say it is really a penetrator of sorts, primarily
for air attack, like killing the American tankers and AWACS, but also has the ability to carry air to ground munitions. It is similar in that respect
to the F-22. However, the J-20 lacks a gun and the Chinese do not seem to feel the need to add it.
The J-20 appears to be huge. but in reality is only 2 ft longer than the F-22 and actually has a shorter wing span by a few inches. The J-20 empty
weight is supposedly about 600 lbs lighter than the F-22. The maximum takeoff weight of the J-20 is almost 2,000 lbs heavier with the F-22 as well.
The F-22 engines are better, but the J-20 is not flying with the final engine as yet: China has had challenges in developing advanced engines.
The F-22 can carry 6 amraams and 2 sidewinders in the A2A loadout vs 4 long range missiles and 2 IR seeker missiles. The J-20 has both an electro
optical tracker and an IRST. The F-22 had the former deleted for budgetary reasons. Comparing ranges is hard: the Chinese, like the Russians, list
the maximum range, not the effective combat radius. The US lists the combat radius, but has been noted to understate that range.
The Chinese are reported to be working on EW and a two seater version of the J-20. It is possible, but wildly unlikely the JH-XX is derived from the
While there was almost assuredly a component of espionage involved with the Chinese getting stealth tech, you can't manufacture 28 plus examples by
simply stealing tech. The chinese are often quite bright and many, many scientists and engineers have attended foreign universities for decades: that
knowledge and the massive wealth the Chinese now have makes them far more likely to really understand and capable of developing their own tech. Tech
that, in some respects, the American Defense Intelligence Agency has stated has surpassed the US Military. In addition, the Chinese military now has
around 1700 fighters. About half are obsolete, but the Chinese are now replacing them and the J-20, amongst other aircraft, are the intended
replacements. The USAF 'only' has around 1600 fighters and the US Navy has around 800. No other nation comes close (Russia is next with around 800
Keep that in mind when you go full 'MURICA! CHINA SUX, DUDE!'