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What preparations are being made for a no-deal Brexit ?

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posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 04:22 AM

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
Europe needs Britain, not the other way around!

Nope, it works both ways. You want proof? Wait 56 Days, 12 Hours, 37 minutes...
edit on 1/2/19 by djz3ro because: Adding some context...

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 04:37 AM

originally posted by: Cassi3l

Nearly one in three British businesses are planning to relocate some of their operations abroad or have already shifted them to cope with a hard Brexit, according to a leading lobby group.

The Institute of Directors (IoD) warned that 29% of firms in a survey of 1,200 members believed Brexit posed a significant risk to their operations in the UK and had either moved part of their businesses abroad already or were planning to do so.
More than one in 10 had already set up operations outside the UK as the prospect of a no-deal Brexit becomes more likely amid Westminster gridlock.

Most firms considering a move were looking to open offices inside the European Union, said the IoD, which represents 30,000 firms.

From the frying pan into the fire??

Their research is obviously faulted in the planning ahead scheme of things!!

Germany facing MAJOR RECESSION: Stark WARNING issued to Merkel as Berlin set for 'crisis'
GERMANY should prepare to deal with a financial crisis should the economic structure of Europe’s most powerful country start to crumble, according to EU Budget Commissioner Günther Oettinger.
The nation which has the largest economy in Europe has been hit by a raft of weak economic data over recent months, sparking concerns of a financial cooldown and a new negative trend. Fears of a recession being on the cards have even begun to emerge, with analysts suggesting the latest disappointing production data had increased the risk of a technical recession after a 0.2 percent contraction in the third quarter. A recession is defined by economists as gross domestic product (GDP) falling for two consecutive quarters. The brakes have seemingly been slammed on a nine-year expansion in Europe’s economic powerhouse as an ongoing trade war between the United States and China and Brexit uncertainty continue to rattle global markets.
“The tax burden in Germany is quite high in international comparison, especially in corporate taxation.

“We will have to wait and see how the tax reform will work in the US in the long run."
“Incidentally, the Federal Government is well advised to prepare for a crisis in order to react quickly if necessary.
Yesterday saw Germany hit by weaker than expected industrial output figures for the third consecutive month
Data released on Tuesday by the Federal Statistics Office in Germany showed industrial output fell by 1.9 percent on the month in November.
The output figure for October was revised down to a fall of 0.8 percent from a previously reported drop of 0.5 percent.

Altmaier last month lowered the government’s growth forecast for 2018 to around 1.5 to 1.6 percent, down from the previous estimate of 1.8 percent.
Earlier this month, a new survey showed the manufacturing sector in Germany slowed once more with new orders falling at the fastest rate in four years.

Markit’s Purchasing Managers’ Index (PMI) for manufacturing, which accounts for about a fifth of the economy, tumbled to a 33-month low of 51.5 in December, down from 51.8 in November.
The number is inching closer to the 50.0 level which marks a contraction.

It was the eleventh time in 2018 that the manufacturing index fell.


Italy slips into recession for third time in a decade
Italy’s economy fell into recession in the final three months of 2018, in a blow to the country’s governing radical centre-right coalition, which pledged to boost the country’s persistently low GDP growth.

The 0.2% drop in the eurozone’s third largest economy between October and December followed a 0.1% fall in the previous three months the Italian statistics agency said. Declining GDP growth over two consecutive quarters put Italy in recession. It is the third time the country has fallen into recession in a decade.
Amid weakening growth rates across the eurozone, Italy is likely to be forced to rewrite its forecasts for growth in 2019.
Aberdeen Standard Investments said: “The growth forecasts on which the budget was based have already been blown out of the water and eurozone growth continues to weaken.

Analysts have blamed much of the slump on a running battle between Rome and Brussels
The dispute ran for months, hurting economic confidence and driving up Italy’s borrowing costs, before a settlement was reached just before Christmas.
Luigi Di Maio, the head of the Five Star Movement, said the recession was proof that Europe’s budget rules should be relaxed to allow Italy to stimulate its economy back to growth.

“The sell-off in Italian assets and rise in yields is now feeding through into tighter lending conditions and weaker macro data,”

The EU statistics agency, Eurostat, said the eurozone expanded by 1.8% in 2018 overall, the slowest rate of growth since 2014 and significantly down from 2017’s 2.3%.
German retail sales fell at their steepest rate since 2007 in December and exports of cars to China also declined.

France is having Macron problems.....

Greece's economy? beyond mentioning

Spain unemployment, and economy problems.

Hungary unhappy with Merkles immigration policy.

Looks more like rats jumping onto a sinking ship to me.

Roll on **Brexit**

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 04:39 AM

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
Europe needs Britain, not the other way around!

Nope, it works both ways. You want proof? Wait 56 Days, 12 Hours, 37 minutes...

Yeah right, because before 1993 there was no Euro..
Britain haven't even adopted the 'Euro' currency.

Britain is seen as one of the most important nations on earth and has been for quite some time.

Britain speaks English and is land locked by water

Britain doesn't need Europe

Sure, the TV will go ballsout crazy about how Brexit will end life in our universe... and the stock markets will react, strangely... but - after a short period it will normalize and then start improving, surpassing the Euro Status
edit on 1/2/19 by Agit8dChop because: (no reason given)

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 04:57 AM
a reply to: Cassi3l

I could wittily suggest that if there's no bread, you should all just eat cake
But that'll be a bit difficult if there's no flour or butter coming in to the country

You can always go to the nearest chippy though
if spuds and fish aren't in short supply by the summer ...
Maybe that's when reality will start to bite

Two points , we have a strong rural economy so will have plenty of cake ingredients and we're surrounded by sea that's full of fish , following Brexit it will no longer be full of French and Spanish trawlers taking our fish.

As a truck driver I deliver to many farms and factories , as far as I can see due to my workload our rural and industrial areas are doing just fine regardless of the naysayers.

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 05:48 AM
I think some of us need to start thinking about our own preparations for the weeks following Brexit, myself included.

As an older person, one who served in the RAF during the Cold War and now living in rural Scotland, I’ve always made sure I’ve got at least two weeks worth of tinned/packet food in the cupboards, plus the means to cook it if power goes off. Multivitamins, candles, batteries n such like. Plus enough water containers to get me through a fortnight too, if push comes to shove.

Cold War advice to householders was always “two weeks”. You’d have to be undercover for two weeks after the Bomb, to escape the worst of the radioactive fallout. But living where I am now, where last night we hit minus 13 C and where the roads are often blocked by snow, two weeks is actually a nice safe amount of provisions to have on premises, without getting into the whole tinfoil hat prepper thing.

But I’m going to re-visit that the next week or so. Some of the scare stories about Brexit shortages are just that. They’re scaring us to get UK to remain. But even Brexiteers concede there may be some disruption to food supplies in the weeks after Brexit.

So I’m going to increase my two weeks to four. I don’t see it as wasting money, I rotate what’s in the cupboard, nothing gets wasted and it all gets used eventually. But there’s some things which make life more pleasurable, a cup of tea with milk and sugar being the main one (and yes, kids, I remember the “sugar strike” in the mid 1970’s ... ever wonder why your grandmothers still have a jar full of sugar sachets they’ve nicked from cafes ? Lol).

But there’s other things ... food for human consumption will be the governments priority. Your pets ain’t a priority. So I’m stocking up on pet food too. Me, I can suffer an inordinate length of time. Anyone who’s lay in a muddy trench in the Brecon Beacons for a whole weekend in the pissing wind, rain and cold can suffer a great deal and take it in their stride. I did. Many of you who served will share that memory.

But there’s no way I’m letting my pussy suffer lol.

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 06:01 AM
a reply to: TheShippingForecast

But there’s no way I’m letting my pussy suffer lol.

It's always a good idea to have a "just in case cupboard" but you pussy is a natural born killer , it isn't going to suffer if you let it out to hunt.

As a child of the 70's I remember the shortages back then and the power cuts we endured through the miners strike , a little bit of hardship is good for the soul.

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 06:01 AM
With Italy sliding into recession and Germany heading that way, I just know it'll all be Brexits fault.
As for food shortages here, for that to happen, we need to massively slow down the entry of trucks and ships carrying it and for prices to rise, we need that plus tariffs.
Those two things are all down to our government, no one in the world can make us slap tariffs on goods once we are out of the EU and similarly, no one can make is delay trucks coming in.

So if it happens, we will know exactly who to blame.

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 06:16 AM

originally posted by: SprocketUK
As for food shortages here,

It takes a bit of spite for the EU to allow lorry-loads of perishable goods to rot on the other side of the channel. If they do that then it's the producers of tomatoes and other produce who will suffer.

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 06:22 AM
a reply to: paraphi

the vast majority of brexit doom porn is going to stem from the malicious spitefull vindictiveness of the remains of the EU

the rest - the untter shambolic incompetance of the conservatve govt

serious;y - sho me one major " consequence " of brexit - that is a natural fall out of leaving the EU

the UK is being punished for the temerity of quiting while we can [ pre lisbon accord implimentation ]

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 06:25 AM

originally posted by: paraphi

It takes a bit of spite for the EU to allow lorry-loads of perishable goods to rot on the other side of the channel.

We already know how spiteful the EU can be?

Cutting of your nose to spite your face '
' comes to mind.

If they do that then it's the producers of tomatoes and other produce who will suffer.

Too true...... but no sale/delivery no money!! /shrugs

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 06:52 AM

originally posted by: eletheia
We already know how spiteful the EU can be?

Sadly, with friends like the EU, who needs enemies, eh?

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 07:15 AM
There will not be a no deal Brexit. It is all scare mongering on all sides of the Channel. Even Merkel's allies within Germany admit she will cave at the last minute - because she favours the Brinksmanship style of negotiation. German business en masse is united against No Deal. German economists are openly calling for Merkel to back down on the backstop to get the deal done.

Barnier, Verhofstadt, et all may think they have the power to ignore Merkel but as they will be paying most of the bills when we have gone, German clout is about to increase exponentially within the EU.

However, as to the specific question "what preparations are being made?" - Picture a tumbleweed blowing through an abandoned ghost town. You won't be far wrong.

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 08:13 AM
A lot of scaremongering again.

I don't know anyone who voted for Brexit who didn't think there were going to be some tough times ahead....but we'll survive, then we'll grow and prosper.
It's about the future - a future free from the bullying, uncompromising, undemocratic EU.
That's the legacy I wish to leave my Grandson.....anything worth having in life is worth fighting for.

a reply to: paraphi

Anyone who thinks a General Election at this moment in time is in the country's best interests must be a complete and utter idiot....or someone so unprincipled that they would prefer to see the country descend even further into panic and fear simply to further a political agenda...not sure if Corbyn is the former but he's certainly the latter.

a reply to: djz3ro

I bet if you Google "What is the role of a member of Parliament?" Brexit isn't one of their roles. I bet it's not even in the job description.

True....but I bet representing your constituents wishes and the will of the people is in there somewhere.

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 08:22 AM
Well we made the joke yesterday that the tories have their fox hunting priorities sorted for a no deal brexit
Horses in the EU

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 08:28 AM
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

As for what preparations am I making?

I have prioritised and ensured I have a constant supply of beer and things we can't talk about on ATS.

I'm sure that if things get as bad as some predict then there will be some things that I'll miss, but I'll deal with it and simply get on with making the best of it that I can....we're a resourceful and innovative people and we've survived much, much worse.

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 09:47 AM
a reply to: sapien82

Oh Lordie. Are you some townie or something? The vast majority of people with horses don't hunt foxes and probably don't care about the subject.

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 11:43 AM
a reply to: Cassi3l

TL;DR - Lots of rich people are scared for no reason and want you to be scared too.

That the gist of it?

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 11:46 AM
a reply to: Cassi3l

We have a lot of soil in the UK. It's quite good for growing things in

We produce our own butter, meat, majority of vegetables and will have more access to fish after Brexit.

posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 12:04 PM
a reply to: Dem0nc1eaner
yea man every time I see images of the UK outside of London, it is just vast beautiful lush greenery everywhere. Now you don't get land like that without having great soil and climate to grow things. You guys will have zero issues growing your own food, hell you guys already do! Arent yall the worlds number one supplier of peas?? I am growing peas right now. 22 sprouts all of them germinated. I got the lattice setup, I just want to make sure every one of them has their first leaves before I put in the ground. Apparently they enjoy the cool weather.
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posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 12:36 PM

originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner
a reply to: Cassi3l

We have a lot of soil in the UK. It's quite good for growing things in

We produce our own butter, meat, majority of vegetables and will have more access to fish after Brexit.

We did. However, deep ploughing and reliance on fertilisers over a long period have severely damaged our soils fertility. Without a change in practice, we seriously endanger our ability to provide for ourselves in the long run.

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