Democrat Governor Wants In-Home Surveillance of Newborn Babies

a reply to: shooterbrody

i saw, would rather not watch again.. nah but i will be honest for a minute i pooped in the mackinaw river in Illinois last year during the summer.. Could be the reason I'm single again ya never know... lmao

a reply to: MarlbBlack

People say interesting times we live in

That is an old Chinese curse
"May you live in interesting times"

Funny you said that.

a reply to: StallionDuck
This happens in Britain and I agree with it. There are lots of people out there who are poor at parenting and need support. I had multiple visits from a community nurse after my twin boys were born, they did a health check and offered so much support for me, checking if I needed anything. I don't see it as a bad thing, I see it as 'authorities' or our healthcare system looking out for kids who might be disadvantaged or abused.
I get it though, totally socialist so most US members will be against it.

a reply to: Gothmog

I'm not Chinese so I don't know what it means except for what I said lol... Just don't need the government telling me how I should and should not raise the children I have. They could be the next Tesla for all they know... Guppies is what I call em.

a reply to: MarlbBlack
I was just throwing a number from oldest known civilization I am aware of (Nazca era Peru).
But #, if it has been one fifth of a million years, that is an even better reference. Humanity did not get to where we are today over the course of one fifth of a million years thanks to strangers forcing their way into our homes to check on our babies, by the threat of violence for non-compliance.

a reply to: SarahConnor
in my city and state, a poor person can receive those benefits by asking for them, not by threat of violent kidnapping for non-compliance.

a reply to: worldstarcountry
Who looks out for the malnourished and abused babies in your freedom Utopia then?

a reply to: SarahConnor

If that baby was mine? It would bee me looking out for them. My kin, my family.. In the way I think they should be raised.. I had a great damn childhood if in fact I could give that to another? yep I would.

a reply to: StallionDuck

Disclaimer: I am not a Big-Brother fan. However...

After reading the article and segments of the bill, I feel the title mislead me a little. When it says surveillance, to me that implies some in-home baby monitor system connected to an Orwellian command central with "Baby Protection" thugs. Maybe my imagination is running away on me.

Instead it requires a nurse visit to the house to check up on things. Sure, I get where this can go south too. Miss something on the checklist or the nurse is having a bad day? You find yourself in front of a child welfare tribunal.

I like the idea of looking out for the babies but I am not sure I can trust the state. Too many feel-good, stalking horse measures already in place.

a reply to: SarahConnor
I really could not say, I have never run across one. And mind you, I spent my teenage years in some of the lower income neighborhoods. I saw babies in filthy homes, with parents selling drugs, and even lumped together in an unlicensed daycare between a group of friends. But at no point were any of them malnourished. At the hospital, when you give birth you are always visited by a social worker and asked if you require any public assistance. That was my experience with my wife bringing 5 children into the world all at the same hospital.

You cannot stop abuse until you know, or at least suspect, that it is ongoing. In my city and state, you, personally would still get the services you have there, they would simply be by request. And honestly, they would just give you food stamps and daycare assistance and possibly a small amount of cash assistance if your income qualifies you for it as well as health coverage for your child. But all of these benefits would be granted for the most part, without the mandatory visitation of strangers into your home.

In the USA, usually social workers only go on regular visits to homes with domestic problems.

originally posted by: StallionDuck

Oregon Governor Kate Brown is pushing for her State to require universal home visits for newborn children in the care of their own parents.

Why the hell would a Democrat care about the safety of newborn children?!? Isn't this the same party that wants to murder children right after they are born? So if Mommy allows Baby to live, she needs to be supervised. If she kills Baby after Baby is born, then there is no need for the supervision, I suppose. Anybody else see something wrong with this situation?

a reply to: StallionDuck

What the hell is going on with Babies in Oregon that it is suddenly a "State Emergency"?

Are most newborn parents there savages?

It just seems like another justification of the government's role as a cradle to grave nanny state.

Will Social Services followup with parents every year following that initial visit?

A better way of tracking this would be to see if newborns are getting their wellness visits and immunization from the medical field if we truly are concerned with the newborn.

I'd rather have a Dr looking at a newborn than an overworked, potentially not caring, social worker. But that's me.

a reply to: StallionDuck

Democrats have doubled down in certain states on late term abortion and now they want more government to make sure the baby you decided not to abort is taken care of based on their guidelines.

What the Fook nothing they do anymore makes any logical sense. I swear it's a double check to see if they still want an abortion.

Only kidding.....maybe

a reply to: StallionDuck

Yes
The opposite of abortion.

Hell yea.

So many on the right care about the fetus while in the womb.

Why stop there?

We need to care about them after birth too.
We need to make sure they are being fed and taken care of and not abused.

Hahaha

Of course this is stupid but so is many of your arguments about life being precious.

So keep caring about the little ones unless it involves food stamps, or at home checks and things like that.

Haha

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: StallionDuck

Yes
The opposite of abortion.

Hell yea.

So many on the right care about the fetus while in the womb.

Why stop there?

We need to care about them after birth too.
We need to make sure they are being fed and taken care of and not abused.

Hahaha

Of course this is stupid but so is many of your arguments about life being precious.

So keep caring about the little ones unless it involves food stamps, or at home checks and things like that.

Haha

Just like everything usually proposed by the Democrats it involves more government. I'll be damned if my state that can barely fix a pothole or have good public schools tells me how to raise my child.

a reply to: JDmOKI

The kids are important dude.
Must protect them.

a reply to: TinySickTears
Community nurses here in the UK do an amazing job. They offer a lifeline to new mothers who may need extra support. I loved their visits when I had my twins, they are concerned about the welfare of the mother as much as the babies. They even insist on time to speak alone with mothers so if they are in an abusive relationship they have a chance to speak privately. I cannot see the problem with this at all, it is the most common thing here and I'd say 99% of mothers appreciate the service as much as I did. Everybody loves the community nurse.

What exactly is being suggested here?

In the UK we have home visits after birth. It isn't to make sure we are fit parents, although I'm sure if they found evidence of neglect you would of course be in trouble. It is to give assistance to new parents, health checks for the baby at home to ensure they are growing and developing as expected and to nip any problems in the bud.

I appreciated it a lot and will appreciate it for our second too!

*ahem* and it's free *cough*

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: JDmOKI

The kids are important dude.
Must protect them.

I agree with your troll post which might be a first for me.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: SarahConnor
I saw babies in filthy homes, with parents selling drugs, and even lumped together in an unlicensed daycare between a group of friends. But at no point were any of them malnourished.

Well, that's all fine then.

originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner
I appreciated it a lot and will appreciate it for our second too!

Oh congratulations, how far gone are you?
I agree, the community nurses gave me so much support and encouragement, they are a lifeline...and free at the point of need.