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Roger Stone's not guilty plea shows collapse of Russian collusion narrative

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posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Sillyolme
Hes just going to be found guilty by a jury then. He lied. about it all...

lied you say?


Reminds me of someone else on this forum.




posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

You would think there would be enough integrity to acknowledge, apologize, and move on?
Apparently not.
To see the feigned outrage at other similar situations, after this, is hilarious.



posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: LSU2018


CNN used to be nonpartisan. In fact, they just got this bad during the Trump campaign. They've never been as salty and hate driven as they are now. They did, however, get their start by spying on other news agencies and rushing out to get the stories before those news agencies could get there so they've always been a little crooked. Now they don't bother trying to hide it.


IDK, we use to call CNN the Communist News Network back in the 90s. Much of that was due to the slight slant they would put on all their stories. I do agree that today they are all in and "slight" is a word they no longer have in their vocabulary.


I could definitely be wrong. I never watched them. I just didn't hear much about them. They always reminded me of C-SPAN before this election.



posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

People like that don't move on. They double, triple, quadruple down in an attempt to prove themselves right.



posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: shooterbrody

People like that don't move on. They double, triple, quadruple down in an attempt to prove themselves right.

When it is direct quotes?



posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 04:31 PM
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I still dont understand how they could arrest this colluding monster with 20 agents carrying massive artillery at 6am and 6 hours later release him on a signature bond?

That is the most baffling part. He said a few times that he talked to Wikileaks and they are just going to let him walk out the door?



posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: Scepticaldem
I still dont understand how they could arrest this colluding monster with 20 agents carrying massive artillery at 6am and 6 hours later release him on a signature bond?

That is the most baffling part. He said a few times that he talked to Wikileaks and they are just going to let him walk out the door?


What's wrong with taking to Wikileaks?



posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: Tempter

The Only Offense Roger Stone has Committed here is an Alleged " Thought Crime " . Last Time I Checked , Political Beliefs are Not a Crime in these United States Punishable by Law . Herr Mueller's Investigations go Well Beyond their Original INTENT here IMO ...ahem....
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posted on Feb, 2 2019 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Sillyolme
Hes just going to be found guilty by a jury then. He lied. about it all...

lied you say?


Reminds me of someone else on this forum.

Someone who posts easily proveable lies?



posted on Feb, 2 2019 @ 02:52 PM
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Opposition research is also not illegal.



posted on Feb, 2 2019 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
Opposition research is also not illegal.


Nope, it sure isn't. But paying your friend's (Bruce Ohr's) wife (Nellie Ohr) to write it, and then hire a foreign agent (Steele) to sign off on it like he wrote it, to being a federal investigation with FISA powers, is.

So is destroying evidence under subpoena.
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posted on Feb, 2 2019 @ 05:25 PM
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Excuse me, that research was not portrayed as opposition research nor as coming from the Clinton camp. It was portrayed as non partisan research, research that was used to justify spying on Trump... are you saying that is legit?
a reply to: Sillyolme



posted on Feb, 2 2019 @ 05:27 PM
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Except it wasn’t portrayed as that, and it’s functionally not. Using Clinton money and allies to pay for research to then be used for government spying is NOT opposition research.
a reply to: matafuchs



posted on Feb, 2 2019 @ 07:40 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Most are already "looking the other way" because standard practice foreign intelligence activity are neither new nor particularly effective

Are you claiming disinformation/propaganda/weaponized lies are some sort of novel threat we've never faced before?

...and you specifically have claimed the payment to Stormy Trash constituted illegal campaign spending yet you somehow believe Clinton's secret Russia/UK colluding "dossier" by some Has-Been "spy" isn't? That is foreign meddling. Not this discredited/thoroughly debunked nonsense you continually rattle off.

Wake up Silly, get on the same page as the rest of your radical lefties. The "collusion" and Russia narrative has collapsed entirely. From the broad spectrum of FBI/IC/congress misconduct to debunked claims of "evidence" to putting all your eggs on Robert Mueller: Your narrative has thoroughly collapsed. We've known this for a fact for some time now. However, the beginning of the end for mainstream Democrat support of this narrative was the Buzzfeed debunk. At or around that time, your entire BS house of cards came in around you.

Now, with the real story of Trump tower being out (as well as the phone calls), it has collapsed. Continuing on this path is akin to beating a dead horse. There really is no there, there. Hell, you yourself swore up and down "Junior" would be indicted for some mysterious phone call during the Trump tower meeting and it never happened. You also spread rumors that "Junior" would be indicted by New Years from discredited creepy porn lawyer Avenatti. Guess what? That never happened either.

Go listen to Scott Dorkin, Rachel Madcow and that bowl-headed homophobe Joy Reid some more.


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posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 06:05 AM
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To all you conservatives scared the big bag FBI used too many scary looking people to arrest a felon. African Americans are laughing SO hard! They use battering rams for pot dealers! Roger Stone will be going away longer than any ordinary pot dealer lol.

Also, Manafort pleaded not guilty as well. He lost. Why would Roger Stone be any different?



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 06:30 AM
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You conservatives really need to stop saying COLLUSION. As Trump said, it’s not a crime. I don’t know why ur all so hung up on it.

Misappropriation of funds, be they campaign funds or inaugural committee funds. Is a financial crime.
Witness tampering is a crime.
Obstruction of justice and then admitting it on national tv to Lester Holt. Seems too stupid to be a crime, which is the conservative argument:”how can it be obstruction if it’s out in the open” lol hilarious. Won’t fly with a judge, even a conservative one. But the argument will work on stupid ppl.
Directing your subordinates,or family, to lie to Congressor the FBI is a crime.
Don Jr taking a meeting with a Russian state actor to get dirt on Hillary Clinton, whether or not he received anything is a moot point. Like Al Gore in 2000, placed in a similar situation, he should’ve contacted the FBI.

Collusion isn’t a crime. Conspiracy is the word u idiots r looking for.
I don’t understand how it’s so hard to believe ur orange hero is a crook. U r perfectly fine with Hillary Clinton being a crook despite zero evidence or indictments to her name. Despite all ur bluster and lying, no one is going to re-open any investigation into Hillary Clinton. Because unlike the common moron that votes for trump. The conservative lawyers and judges of the US aren’t insane. They’ll use her a boogiewoman for re-election, but actually charging her with ANY crime is impossible.

Trump on the other hand, is already on record committing crimes and paying off people to avoid legal problems from defrauding “students”. I don’t understand how it’s so hard to believe Trump is a criminal, with actual criminal behaviour taking place throughout his life. And yet you’re so easily convinced Hillary Clinton is a criminal despite the fact that not a single conservative DA will ever bring up charges on her or even talk about such nonsense.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:40 AM
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originally posted by: GokuVsSuperman0
a reply to: Tempter
To all you conservatives scared the big bag FBI used too many scary looking people to arrest a felon. African Americans are laughing SO hard! They use battering rams for pot dealers! Roger Stone will be going away longer than any ordinary pot dealer lol.

Also, Manafort pleaded not guilty as well. He lost. Why would Roger Stone be any different?

Nice deflection
Anything but the thread topic?
But but african americans....



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: GokuVsSuperman0

Msnbc is your friend it seems...
Joy is that you?



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 09:07 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Sillyolme

Post History is such a beautiful thing....


I dont have a party. I am not registered to any party.

oh really....
www.abovetopsecret.com...



I've been a registered democrat since 1992 and live in Virginia.


What was that you were saying about liars?

and then there was this.....
timely as the day



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: GokuVsSuperman0

Comparing crack house to Roger Stones place is not really a good comparison.

As far as Hillary, she and Bill bury their problems in the past and cannot now. She was expecting to be president, the FBI would release information that Trump colluded with Russia and the narrative would have stuck in the media and no one would have EVER been the wiser.

Instead, they f'd up. Big time. There is not a single crime or indictment tied directly to Donald Trump since the beginning of his campaign. Not one. Forgetting something you said, as small or trivial as it may be, is what they are in trouble for. Manafort is in trouble for things he did when he worked with Podesta, HRC's campaign manager where they DID work for Russians. All of them.


HRC will get hers as well as Podesta, Brennan, Comey, etc. All people who did actually lie and nothing was done by the current appointments that cannot be changed because the left is holding up the process. All things you would never read about in the media. They are too busy causing more hate and conflict for no reason.



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