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The Democrat 2020 Party Platform. . . . Communism

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posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 08:41 PM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep

Who cares.

This is about the leftist democrat 2020 platform.


Start a thread.




posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 09:07 PM
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a reply to: narrator

Did you say "Post Office"

GovExec


The U.S. Postal Service on Wednesday reported that it saw a $3.9 billion loss in fiscal 2018, a 44 percent larger dip into the red over the previous year despite a $1 billion revenue increase.


If thats called "well Run" wonder what failure looks like.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus


It’s just communism without the gulags, but then again, maybe they have the re-education camps all ready to go, or wait cnn is a re-education camp along with the public schools.


More fear mongering and ignorance. You can have Capitalism but at the same time have compassion. Corporations have taken advantage of consumers and placed greed ahead of compassion and respect for consumers. Case in point...


PITTSBURGH — Two health-care juggernauts are locked in a battle for patients in western Pennsylvania that could foretell the future of American health care.

On one side is UPMC, a health system that built its brand on cutting-edge research and university-affiliated hospitals. On the other is Highmark Health, best known as one of the country’s biggest health insurers.

They could be mirror images of each other, flipped upside down. UPMC started out in the hospital business, then created its own health insurance plan and built a $20 billion-a-year enterprise. Highmark, which reported $18.2 billion in revenue last year, announced in 2011 that it would branch from insurance into hospitals.

In response, UPMC threatened to stop accepting Highmark insurance at its doctors and hospitals. Agreements and state intervention smoothed over the divorce, which won’t be complete until next year, but people have had to pick sides: Highmark patients with UPMC doctors have had to switch plans, or switch doctors. UPMC health plan members have to pay out-of-network prices at Highmark’s facilities. In the meantime, people have been bombarded by dueling ad campaigns and endless local news stories about the rift.


Many people who have Highmark insurance provided by their employer are now forced to drop their UPMC affiliated family doctors. What's outrageous is many of them had these family doctors for years!!! It's all about corporate greed - and you would think hospitals would have compassion for their communities.

This is not just a secluded case. Many companies have merged and monopolized their services in an area so they can raise consumer rates. Spectrum is just another example how an internet company has merged and taken advantage of being the only provider of internet service in an area. So they slowly start raising their rates. In some areas, consumers don't have any other competing internet service to turn to.

So in the end, like always the consumer gets screwed!!! This is what happens when corporations are not regulated. But heck in your mind government regulation is communism!!! You must think it was OK for your tax dollars to go for bailing out the banks in 2008?? After all, it wouldn't be right in your mind for American citizens to turn their backs on corporate America.

Ever hear about banks bailing out excessive student loan debt? How about regulating universities who are charging outrageous tuition? Than again, in your mind a college education is worth strapping a college student with debt that's comparable to a house mortgage!! Students are left with no discretionary income, we'll see how that will affect the economy. The financial sector is already concerned about the 1.5 trillion in student loan debt. Capitalism at its finest.

...As for public schools, you don't even want to go there with me. I've attended both private and public schools. I've also been a public vocational high school teacher for 25 years. When I attended public school in my teenage years, they had industrial education programs that our local private schools didn't offer. Those industrial arts programs combined both academic learning with real world applications. The skills high school kids learned back in the day influenced their career direction and gave them life long skills. Public schools have lost their way since State and Federal politicians started to think they knew more about educating children than the teachers who were on the front-line. Similar things are done in private business too!

Another case in point where it hits closer to home... My industrial carpentry class that I was enrolled in when I was just in the 8th grade taught me enough carpentry skills that I was able to build an 800 sq.ft addition on my house. So if you think charter schools are the way of the future, all I have to say is ask how many charter schools in big cities have closed their doors. There's a huge reason for that, but than again Betsy Devos who has no experience in education or public education for that matter knows what's best for this country when it comes to education, lol.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 09:49 PM
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a reply to: WeRpeons

You want to know what happens when corporations are regulated?

You get obamacare where coporations end up consolidating and merging to survive and all but the very largest are pushed out or incorporated and then when there are only one or maybe two in a market thanks to regulation, they start raising their rates and then people cannot pay or they demand that the networks they will allow narrow so people lose their doctors and access to hospitals and service providers.

But wait, isn't that exactly like what you describe?

Yes, yes it is.

But there oughta be a law ...! It protects us. No, no it doesn't. It just makes sure there are no options, and then when that happens, you all declare that capitalism fails because you killed it with your laws and regulations. What you're complaining has failed is a system that isn't capitalism anymore but something else -- it's creeping government control, so you decide the only possible avenue left is to go all-in on what's killing the Golden Goose.

Sort of like that Harry Potter prophecy. Neither can live while the other survives.

Capitalism can't exist alongside government control. The two will inevitably strive against one another.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 09:58 PM
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Another case in point where it hits closer to home... My industrial carpentry class that I was enrolled in when I was just in the 8th grade taught me enough carpentry skills that I was able to build an 800 sq.ft addition on my house. So if you think charter schools are the way of the future, all I have to say is ask how many charter schools in big cities have closed their doors. There's a huge reason for that, but than again Betsy Devos who has no experience in education or public education for that matter knows what's best for this country when it comes to education, lol.


Eff you on that.

My kid is stuck in a public education mill at the moment.

Do you know what it's doing to him? He has two learning issues and he has a 504 plan his teacher is supposed to be following, but because apparently, public schools know best according to you ... who I guess knows better than Betsy DeVos what kids like mine need ... he's stuck in an unruly classroom with a teacher who does not follow his plan.

Because he has a hearing disorder, he is supposed to have one or two quiet periods each day of 15 to 20 where he wears sound dampening ear phones to give him a break from the noise (even a tapping pencil is grating because his brain never developed the ability to filter out extraneous noises; he's aware of himself breathing 24/7). He also has dysgraphia (dyslexia's handwriting cousin) and is supposed to be receiving in-class supports for that, but he says all he does is type on his iPad. I worry because the standardized testing will have written sections, and his writing is illegible even to him and his spelling is worse. There are days when he can't spell his own name.

But his IQ is just under the qualifying mark for the Gifted program, so he's no dummy. And because of that, he learns quickly and easily ... except where he can't thanks to his learning disability.

He's a smart, able kid who will fall through the cracks unless my husband and I can find the right educational placement for him, and public school has no interest in doing it. They're busy trying to work with the socially impaired, not the learning disabled.

And the right educational placement isn't going to be public school. So where is the answer for us? And why should be we be trapped in a system that has no answer because we have socialized system? Why shouldn't we have access to the money the system spends to send our kid to public school that will fail him to send him somewhere where it might work for him?

What do you have against that? Why should my kid be sacrificed on your public ed alter?



posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 07:00 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
I think people are missing the point.

The democrat candidates for president want to raise taxes, abolish the Electoral College, relax border security, end the Senate, end ICE, radically alter the 1st and 2nd Amendments.


It's not a list from my tiny mind.

These are issues that THEY espouse. These are things THEY have stated.

All I'm doing is pointing it out.


yeah they sure do want to alter the first amendment. love that talking point. completely bonkers thing to think. maybe its time to look outside of the bubble some of us are in and find reality. as for the other stuff i WISH every democrat candidate wanted all of this
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posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

I can only speak anecdotally, however every one of mine or my wife's acquaintances that are left leaning, literally talk about communism constantly. I can't say if this is an outlier or anything like that, as I only have exposure to my own circle of people I know, but a few of them have tried to discuss the virtues of communistic society with me and my wife. My speculation is that they don't actually understand what communism is, rather than the other way around.



posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus


It’s just communism without the gulags, but then again, maybe they have the re-education camps all ready to go, or wait cnn is a re-education camp along with the public schools.


More fear mongering and ignorance. You can have Capitalism but at the same time have compassion. Corporations have taken advantage of consumers and placed greed ahead of compassion and respect for consumers. Case in point...


PITTSBURGH — Two health-care juggernauts are locked in a battle for patients in western Pennsylvania that could foretell the future of American health care.

On one side is UPMC, a health system that built its brand on cutting-edge research and university-affiliated hospitals. On the other is Highmark Health, best known as one of the country’s biggest health insurers.

They could be mirror images of each other, flipped upside down. UPMC started out in the hospital business, then created its own health insurance plan and built a $20 billion-a-year enterprise. Highmark, which reported $18.2 billion in revenue last year, announced in 2011 that it would branch from insurance into hospitals.

In response, UPMC threatened to stop accepting Highmark insurance at its doctors and hospitals. Agreements and state intervention smoothed over the divorce, which won’t be complete until next year, but people have had to pick sides: Highmark patients with UPMC doctors have had to switch plans, or switch doctors. UPMC health plan members have to pay out-of-network prices at Highmark’s facilities. In the meantime, people have been bombarded by dueling ad campaigns and endless local news stories about the rift.


Many people who have Highmark insurance provided by their employer are now forced to drop their UPMC affiliated family doctors. What's outrageous is many of them had these family doctors for years!!! It's all about corporate greed - and you would think hospitals would have compassion for their communities.

This is not just a secluded case. Many companies have merged and monopolized their services in an area so they can raise consumer rates. Spectrum is just another example how an internet company has merged and taken advantage of being the only provider of internet service in an area. So they slowly start raising their rates. In some areas, consumers don't have any other competing internet service to turn to.

So in the end, like always the consumer gets screwed!!! This is what happens when corporations are not regulated. But heck in your mind government regulation is communism!!! You must think it was OK for your tax dollars to go for bailing out the banks in 2008?? After all, it wouldn't be right in your mind for American citizens to turn their backs on corporate America.

Ever hear about banks bailing out excessive student loan debt? How about regulating universities who are charging outrageous tuition? Than again, in your mind a college education is worth strapping a college student with debt that's comparable to a house mortgage!! Students are left with no discretionary income, we'll see how that will affect the economy. The financial sector is already concerned about the 1.5 trillion in student loan debt. Capitalism at its finest.

...As for public schools, you don't even want to go there with me. I've attended both private and public schools. I've also been a public vocational high school teacher for 25 years. When I attended public school in my teenage years, they had industrial education programs that our local private schools didn't offer. Those industrial arts programs combined both academic learning with real world applications. The skills high school kids learned back in the day influenced their career direction and gave them life long skills. Public schools have lost their way since State and Federal politicians started to think they knew more about educating children than the teachers who were on the front-line. Similar things are done in private business too!

Another case in point where it hits closer to home... My industrial carpentry class that I was enrolled in when I was just in the 8th grade taught me enough carpentry skills that I was able to build an 800 sq.ft addition on my house. So if you think charter schools are the way of the future, all I have to say is ask how many charter schools in big cities have closed their doors. There's a huge reason for that, but than again Betsy Devos who has no experience in education or public education for that matter knows what's best for this country when it comes to education, lol.
you know what... all I have to do is read three sentences of your post... so who said I’m for oligopolistic and monopolistic corporations running the country and the government ? Schools.... well where were you when I complained that Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation money and Microsoft were buying off the governors and teacher’s association for Common Core ? So don’t tell
Me about greedy corporations ifbyou thought that was ok... yes and Pearson also with the testing platform... oh wait you’re a teacher and you don’t know this stuff or care ? Please don’t tell me you approve of thatvgisntvwarehouse storing people’s information... or of the standards and curriculum of sex Ed involving transgender identity confusion. I’m
A personal acquaintance of Debra Lamm who is a MT rep and she’s very knowledgeable about such things ... yes I know way more than you imagine. Yes I can and will go there. And while Im there how about a discussion of John Dewey statist form of pedagogy? No it is you who are ignorant of what’s really happening.
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posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 09:36 AM
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The goal of socialism is communism.

V. Lenin




They all want to punish success, redistribute wealth, eliminate freedoms, and weaponize the government. They want to be the ones wearing the boot that they think will look beautiful on our throats.


That, or they want your total war waging boots out of their faces for good. Who knew, right? You guys were so successful piping up accounts, pillaging the planet and all that. It's a pity. Shame on you, fcking socialists!




posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: Phoenix
a reply to: narrator

Did you say "Post Office"

GovExec


The U.S. Postal Service on Wednesday reported that it saw a $3.9 billion loss in fiscal 2018, a 44 percent larger dip into the red over the previous year despite a $1 billion revenue increase.


If thats called "well Run" wonder what failure looks like.


Ok, the post office sucks. What of the other things listed? What of the dozens of other socialist programs already in America?

Picking 1 lonely thing out of a list of about 75 (I didn't list all of them as that is tedious) seems desperate.



posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 10:23 AM
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Ohhhhh it's this thread that be causing the butt hurt ahhh ahahaha



posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 10:32 AM
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Is it really Communism if the banks and corporations control everything? Labels are just hot buttons for people to push but meaningless in the larger scheme. We don't and we won't have capitalism or communism. We have and will continue to have corporatism so in a sense it is fascism but without nationalism. It's all about control of money and who has that?

Ever since Obama they have been heavily pushing the ethnic divisions playing them against each other. Now the left is using socialism as the cheese in their mousetrap for those who are economically disenfranchised. The only solution I can see is a return to strict Constitutional rule and a return of state's rights. Nothing will happen unless the currency model presently in place can be destroyed and replaced by something actually run by the people for the benefit of the people and completely bypassing the old corporate model.

I now believe the goal of WW 2 was to destroy Nationalism and institute corporate rule worldwide.
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posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 10:53 AM
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And here we are, deflecting from said corporatism with the same old boogeyman from last's century in threads like this.



I now believe the goal of WW 2 was to destroy Nationalism and institute corporate rule worldwide.


Which is kinda funny, because I saw neoliberalism destroy social security and individual rights first. But we agree on the corporate rule already, a silver lining on the horizon.
Just a matter of time and we'll come together to act as one, regardless of our differences. I can't wait to see that happening, comrade!




posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 11:20 AM
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I cannot support Kamala Harris due to her criminal justice record. I will (reluctantly) support her in the general election vs. Trump (to OPPOSE Trump, NOT support Harris), but I will fight tooth and nail to ensure she doesn't win the nomination until then. On another note, the mainstream media is claiming "progressives" no longer support Bernie Sanders in NH, while Huffington Post is now openly supporting blatant plutocracy in favor of Bernie Sanders OR (my personal favorite) Elizabeth Warren. Like, I understand that decades of right-wing propaganda has instilled such an illogical and endemic caricature of Social Democracy and the left in general... but for ****'s sake... PLUTOCRACY!? If we don't get our **** together RIGHT NOW this country won't exist in a few decades, let alone be on the right side of history...

...I mean, FFS NPR, why would a ****ing "progressive" support BETO O'ROURKE over Bernie Sanders or ELIZABETH WARREN?

HE'S THE MOST RIGHT-WING ****ING ****ER CONSIDERED FOR DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT! W...T..F... WE'RE NOT THAT STUPID, NPR. THESE ARE ****ING WALL STREET OPERATIVES AND PAID SHILLS. IF THESE ****ING IDIOTS GET US 8-YEARS OF TRUMP I REALLY AM FOR ****ING REAL MOVING OUT OF THIS **** HOLE COUNTRY.



posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 11:49 AM
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Mehdi seems to agree with you. I didn't listen to his latest podcast (yet), but I'll vouch for him blindly and leave this here.


SINCE GETTING ELECTED to the senate, Kamala Harris has become one of the most progressive voices in the chamber, coming out in favor of Medicare for All and debt-free college. Her forensic questioning of Brett Kavanaugh during last September’s Supreme Court nomination hearings boosted her national profile even further. However, her record as a district attorney and as attorney general in California stand in stark contrast to the progressive ideals she now claims to hold. As attorney general, Harris opposed a bill requiring her office to investigate shootings involving police officers and threatened to imprison the parents of truant children, who are disproportionately poor and non-white. Her office fought a proposed parole program that would release prisoners early if they served half their sentences, arguing that “prisons would lose an important labor pool.” When questioned about her record at a CNN Town Hall this week, Sen. Harris evaded the questions and argued instead that her record has been “consistent.” On this week’s Deconstructed podcast, Mehdi Hasan is joined by Jamilah King of Mother Jones and by Lara Bazelon, a professor of law at the University of San Francisco, to discuss Sen. Harris’s record and her prospects in the Democratic primaries.

theintercept.com...



posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: DBCowboy



The goal of socialism is communism.

V. Lenin




They all want to punish success, redistribute wealth, eliminate freedoms, and weaponize the government. They want to be the ones wearing the boot that they think will look beautiful on our throats.


That, or they want your total war waging boots out of their faces for good. Who knew, right? You guys were so successful piping up accounts, pillaging the planet and all that. It's a pity. Shame on you, fcking socialists!

Pillaging the planet ??? That would be the elite cabal and oh and you know what, the Elite Club of Rome is running Agenda 21(thanks but no thanks). They want nothing less than complete domination and control. Why else do they want us to make all the sacrifices and not eat meat because it’s “too affluent “ while they themselves fly around the world in private jets and have huge mansions by the ocean... while we are expected to live in small apartments and ride a bike to work ... yes that’s the Agenda 21 plan they have for us. You really need to snap out of that crazy mind control you are trapped in. Oh and would you mind telling China not to pillage the planet too, cause they have more pollution than we do and way higher population and more industry now too since so
Many of our corporations moved there. The 2019 population of China is 1,417,967,966 so ... a bit over 3x the population of the US.
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posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 12:26 PM
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it will be a race between communism and socialism



posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 01:23 PM
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THE NWO HAS WON (OR WILL IN 2020).....

For a moment there, I actually thought there were enough folks who "got it" and realized that the ideals of our nation were in serious danger. In 2016, my faith in my fellow Americans was renewed when Hillary lost. A bought and paid for politician, in the pockets of our enemies and special interest groups, her loss was refreshing.

And yet, here were are, two years later, and the public continues to be brainwashed by the media and a bunch of sheeple who can't see the forest for the trees. Worse yet, they are GROWING. Because in 2020, a whole new generation of voters will come to the polls....and this group is the most uninformed yet, and the most brainwashed. (and frankly, a bunch of morons)

It was first clear after the midterms. Even though Trump was bashed daily in the press, the numbers didn't lie. Higher GDP. Lower Unemployment. Record low unemployment in black youths. North Korea stopped rattling its saber. Once again, America regained its place as the worlds number 1 economy. But nope. Not good enough for the bleeding hearts who were still miffed about losing (even after their gal got CAUGHT rigging the election). The election of morons like Ocasio-Cortez just solidified it. We folks in the know....we're a dying breed. And our numbers will not be enough to save us (or them) in 2020. Let alone 2022, when they double-down on stupid.

Rest assured, 2020 will see the end of any real democracy in America, and the beginning of a one-party state. You're either a lefty, or a racist relic and a monster in the eyes of the public, no matter how ethical and moral you are. 2022 will be even worse, when more GOP seats are up for re-election, and both houses of Congress align with a leftist, socialist POTUS (whichever one gets elected in 2020). While I'm not a religious guy, I will tell you this. 2020 will be the beginning of the end of religious entanglements with government. I'm not broken up about this, but I am worried about what takes the place of that vacuum. And that ladies and gents, is ENFORCED political correctness, regardless of personal beliefs. And THAT, I do have a problem with. (though I'll be old enough to not really give a damn).

Years ago, when seeing the movie Idiocracy, I thought....what a fun comedy! I never realized I was looking at a crystal ball, that was actually predicting the future. Welcome to Costco. I love you.



posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: EHowardHuntClub
During the Soviet Union era, the U.S.S.R. funded political "front groups" to cause derision and agitation in the west. When the Mother Country and her Communism failed, these front groups were left in the wind with no funding. They actually out-lived the U.S.S.R., and kept their Marxist-Leninist organizations afloat until they could find new funding.


And quite a few of them became libertarian think tanks eg the Manifesto Club and the Academy of Ideas in the UK, which born from the Revolutionary Communist Party.

It's not like Marx wrote about "the withering away of the state" or anything...



posted on Jan, 31 2019 @ 01:51 PM
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Months ago, I would have classified Harris as a pretty moderate, more middle of the road Democrat.

However, her latest statements put her right in the same loony-ville as Ocasio-Cortez. What the hell happened?

If the Dems run her (and actually focus on being behind her), she will win. Scary as that is now.

Black, female, veteran. And not Trump? (even being a Buddhist, it's a slam dunk).

The writing is on the wall folks. You are witnessing the death throws of our Republic as we know it, and the birth of a one-party, socialist state. It will take time. Two POTUS terms, in fact, as of 2020. But it will happen. There is simply no stopping it at this point. Its a numbers game, and the numbers are NOT on the side of those who can see it.




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