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The Democrat 2020 Party Platform. . . . Communism

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posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 01:05 PM
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Sometimes ats stars are just a popularity contest. Not your fault tho.
a reply to: ketsuko





posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

As someone in the working class, I can tell you that I resent being told how greedy I am when I don't support being taxed more for things for people who don't work like I do to support those things for themselves.

Yeah, we're the ones playing the role of Peter, not the super rich your'e being told are being soaked.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

I'm confused where the stars thing comes from.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy
This is where we are at DB. Here is a lady who gets shouted down by leftist marxist shills at a board meeting.

www.youtube.com...

This is a result of Bill Ayers and his ilk that have ruined our country.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

I'm confused where the stars thing comes from.
Often like in our convo both parties will be saying perfectly reasonable things but those that are popular or better known on ATS get way more stars. It’s the same issue one sees with Facebook likes.
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posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: Ansuzrune
a reply to: narrator
I thought Obummer care was supposed to fix that. Democrats running on health care platform is ludicrous . Now they need to admit it failed or why would they run on it again. Socialist health care will be the ruination of this country. Where to get the money. Tax the rich? That won't put a dent in the cost. Tax corporations more? They will leave again just like when Bush, Clinton and Obama were in office. Tax small business more? I am a small business and I will shut my doors as it is already expensive enough to keep employees. The real answer is just what President Trump wants,bring more manufacturing back to the US. Stop illegals from pouring over the border. Make the lazy entitlement takers who VOTE DEMOCRAT, work for God's sake. And you name one program just one program that government has taken over that is run correctly. Communism is just that government deciding when you live and when you die. Shove it commie!!!!!


Shove it commie? That's hilarious. It doesn't take rocket science to figure out that what I (and many others) want is most definitely NOT communism. You can call it that all you want, doesn't mean you're right.

Not sure how it would be entirely funded, but taxes would make up a big chunk of it. Canada has a single payer system, and they're taxed at about the same rate as Americans are.

Why is that the real, and only, answer? Because you support Trump? With the Foxconn announcement today, and with coal jobs continuing to dwindle (a big promise of his was to bring back coal jobs), it would appear that it ISN'T the best for America.

This is purely anecdotal, but I know several people on welfare, and every single one is a lifelong Republican. So the "vote democrat" crap you said isn't true in all cases.

Name one program that the government runs that works well:
Military
Fire departments
Police departments
Highway and road building
Libraries
Post Offices
Farm subsidies
Museums
Sewer systems
G.I. Bill
Public Parks
CDC
Department of Energy
Peace Corps

Should I go on? All of those are government run, do their job quite well, and are (at least in part) paid for by the taxpayer, making them (gasp!) socialist programs.

I agree with you, Communism would be terrible for our country and I don't want it. But socialist programs...they do some good in our country already.

To clarify, I'm not saying America should become Socialist either. I'm simply saying there are some good ideas to implement if we can ever get past the "Shove it commie" mentality.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 02:11 PM
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During the Soviet Union era, the U.S.S.R. funded political "front groups" to cause derision and agitation in the west. When the Mother Country and her Communism failed, these front groups were left in the wind with no funding. They actually out-lived the U.S.S.R., and kept their Marxist-Leninist organizations afloat until they could find new funding. Now that they have been re-funded by nefarious sources(you know who), they have actually turned on the new "Captalist-Christian" Russia. infiltrated and co-opted the U.S. Democratic Party, the U.S. Broadcast Media, and many in the U.S. Government itself. I find it extremely ironic that the same groups that Putin's KGB helped develop and foment, have turned on Russia and have caused Vladimir Putin so much turmoil.
Considering this Anti-Democracy/Capitalism movement's source, origins and history, I would label them as "Novie Communistishi". -Russian for "New Communists", akin to "Neo-Nazis".



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 02:22 PM
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only a matter of time before these left leaning Democrats just jump ship and switch to the CPA outright, if they haven't already been members in secret, just waiting till they can reveal the truth.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 02:40 PM
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Communism(commune/community) eventually leads to an Anarchy(not chaos look it up).

ATS as a website functions as a microcosm of world government as all forums do... there is the owner the monarch, and yet he/she has to bow to the outside larger form of worldwide web government for standards and practices,or fight them.

So at ATS as a community or commune, there are all types here as a melting pot... the military and police are the moderators, the laws are of course the site rules, and well not matter who you are guest or otherwise? One has to stick to those standards... of course parties are like cliques and cliques can become the downfall.

Like the political cliques many have ranted about being the downfall of the conspiracy heart of this site; government at large has stated bringing down conspiracy is a goal... so of course keeping the politics makes sense, making the rant invalid as showing political activity means voters and lots of them.

Being a moderator on a large international site once before, it was interesting to see monarchs, the government inside and outside and the members various: cliques.

Many of course do not take the time to shrink things down as microcosm for an easier look at such a thing... they think large macrocosm off site. When a democracy is a bird, one wing says fly right and the other wing says fly left, and well the organ of the bird says as an independent and free? I can look left and look right but; eating and pooping(in no particular order) are the main goals once I wake up and leave my roost.

Any which way the wind blows is a leaf or a flag not a bird.

Information sharing is just that, leaf or flag is just the mental winds moving what one attaches to from those mental winds? Is their pole their anchor and their root to investigate... otherwise it just is. As it is when simply just stated is really an as you were, as change is said to come from within no matter how much one goes plotting or prattling about elsewhere.

So hey even though it has been pushed til people are blue in the face that the US is democratic? Others say no it is a republic... well look at the state of California; as it is both. So of course at one point it was thought, who would make a better president than a governor coming from both? So hey, that was Ronald Reagan.

The US based on Independence? Means no monarchies the same as no monopolies; of course corrupt statehoods try to have monopolies and set up their party as a monarchy with corrupt members due to lobby and study(special interest group) that is wing based of course. Nebraska is the state of Independents... and well being chosen to run or not is like a public service as they know both parties are corrupt with lobby and special interest or population studies for the university system and of course the corporations that lobby the larger government in DC to be able to have them with the entire population as their control group to do so... meaning those in state government are nothing but whores.

So communism the shout is and was the same as the various panther parties; power to the people. It means when power has corrupted absolutely, then it is up to the people by the declaration of independence and bill of rights that gave the separation of powers to begin with, to say back off we dont want it didnt ask for it and over reach is the something as over stepping what are inalienable rights. Some even argued them as "god given" as a plea in keeping with that belief as a right whether it was wrong or not.

Of course when has community not been important? In the self sufficient farm... of course that started to be torn down in the late 50's with food processing and land tucked away as country suppler, like all the corn from Iowa, all the oranges from Florida and all the cotton from Alabama all the tobacco from North Carolina all the horseless carriages from Michigan etc etc well... the US didn't rotate it's crops. It dictated, subsidized, then incorporated. The position of president changed from head of all military into that of a global CEO with the military as a global rent for proxy wars.

So of course world trade... who was pissed off about world trade? Those not holding up their end of the bargaining that all the government heads could buy and sell stock into with their first world populations being lab rats from all of that... well of course the population is sick of it when money is the global dominator one can under that it is like those churches that call themselves nondenominational they dont care what money or if any goes into the plate for support. Just that it is there and remains there as a community.

Ideology no matter what it is leads to extremism, as a group, the sadhus as a singular person says is my conviction to show strength of never lowering this one arm or never cutting my fingernails going to bother you as an individual? If so namaste from one individual to another... yet in group ideology of a reaction? It is like bug spray on a spider. If it was the last spider? Enjoy your plague of flies.

Thats just how things work or do not.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: DBCowboy

I like a lot of what you do on ATS, but..........I think you've been somewhat mislead by that website you referenced.

There isn't an extant 2020 Dem Party Platform. You can see the extant platform at:
democrats.org...

There you will learn the following:


What follows is our 2016 platform — our most progressive platform in our party’s history and a declaration of how we plan to move America forward. Democrats believe that cooperation is better than conflict, unity is better than division, empowerment is better than resentment, and bridges are better than walls. This party platform was voted on and passed by our membership at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia in 2016. The platform will be updated and re-approved at the 2020 Democratic National Convention.


Did I waste my time reading the damned thing in some misguided effort to prove your talking points wrong? No.

The reason I didn't is two fold. First, the two major parties have long ignored their party platforms. They are therefore mostly meaningless tripe and "feel good" rhetoric. I am actually unsure if anyone reads them other than extreme political junkies and why? Because, again, they're ignored.

The second reason Party Platforms are really of no importance whatsoever is that US political parties are NOT genuine Political Parties. They function more along the lines of social organizations, complete with store fronts and signs and membership applications. Thus, they don't function like real political parties. There's no "party discipline" and there's no mechanisms within the parties to enforce any "party discipline". As such, there are Democrats in the Republican party and vica versa. There's no rigorous promotion of ideology and no enforcement of ideological purity. Thus for example, my "Republican" Congressman votes PRO-ABORTION, and by the same token, I've seen Democrat candidates proclaim themselves to be PRO-LIFE.

For examples of REAL political parties, look to Hitler's Nazi Party, Sadaam Husseins Baathist Party and of course the Russian Communist Party of Josef Stalin.
Yes, you did waste your time, because by now we know that the Democrats are not interested in unity or harmony, they are interested in having their way, which is ultra radical and just plain communist. Soooo real political
Parties are Nazi and Communist Germany and Russia... good to know what people think ... 🤨



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 06:41 PM
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I think people are missing the point.

The democrat candidates for president want to raise taxes, abolish the Electoral College, relax border security, end the Senate, end ICE, radically alter the 1st and 2nd Amendments.


It's not a list from my tiny mind.

These are issues that THEY espouse. These are things THEY have stated.

All I'm doing is pointing it out.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Exactly right. This is their SELF-PROCLAIMED platform.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 07:35 PM
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Genuinely can't understand anyone who doesn't want to raise taxes on the wealthiest among us.

'I might be rich one day too though!' is all I can come up with.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: links234
a reply to: DBCowboy

Genuinely can't understand anyone who doesn't want to raise taxes on the wealthiest among us.

'I might be rich one day too though!' is all I can come up with.


Sorry not enough available.

They always tax the Middle Class the most.🤣🚬



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: links234
a reply to: DBCowboy

Genuinely can't understand anyone who doesn't want to raise taxes on the wealthiest among us.

'I might be rich one day too though!' is all I can come up with.


The wealthy (individuals and corporations) already pay 95% of the tax revenue collected by the U.S. Treasury.

But, if you want to raise their taxes even higher, you have to ensure that those increases directly benefit the public at large. Not just the poor, like Obama did with the ObamaCare boondoggle.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: links234
a reply to: DBCowboy

Genuinely can't understand anyone who doesn't want to raise taxes on the wealthiest among us.






posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 07:59 PM
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I don't want to see anyone taxed any more than absolutely necessary. I just want people to get paid a decent #ing wage so long as they are contributing to society. Not sure why you'd like to see anyone taxed, as if being taxed for being taxed sake is a good thing.

I don't care who comes up with a way to make this happen, whether it's a republican, democrat, socialist, girbleribaltiest, or any other made up ist. I just care that it happens and that people stop pretending the increasing wage gap is not a problem.

I do know this, I'm not going to support any party that refuses to recognize this is a problem, and doesn't even attempt to come up with solutions to fix it.

As long as the republican's only solution to people contributing to society being underpaid is "Suck it up Buttercup" and a refusal to even recognize there's a problem the whole party can go # itself. Same with the democrats and their lying, deceitful manipulative asses.

I do know some of the people on this thread have reminded me why I don't support the Republican party. I'm not even a democrat, I'm just a voter describing why the democrats get support from so many of the working class over the Republicans, and asking for some kind of recognition and solution to the working man's problem from the Republican side because the democrats who traditionally claimed to support finding a solution to these problems have gone full crazy. All I've gotten from them is full on hostility. So clearly the Republican party ain't worth # either.

One side lies, the other side doesn't give a #. Back to pushing support of neither party.

Also I can't for the sake of me get where the people got the idea that the poor can steal from the rich, but the rich can't steal from the poor. So sick of the rich being portrayed by the right as if they are all innocent carebears being unjustly targeted by the poor that would never take advantage of their being in a position of power to take advantage of the downtrodden's weaker position to take more from them than they are worth. Which is another form of robbery that at the extreme end is full on slavery. Both ends of the spectrum have their bad eggs, but one end's bad eggs hurts a lot more people than the other when they are a bad egg.

Still think we need the wall though.
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posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: LDragonFire
a reply to: DBCowboy

Thank God we got all you tea partiers, uh I mean alt right, or Trumpeters telling everyone what the Dems, or liberal are doing. Not like you need to be focusing on yourselves, not like y'all won the last election or anything.


They actually did compared to the last 4 administrations. Trump was the first in a loooong time to increase his hold on the Senate and not get completely wiped out in the house.

Go look at how Obama, Bush and Clinton did in their first midterm elections.

Trump caved in all three of them with his results

Bring some knowledge next time champ.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

There's no way this will succeed in our country. The media only makes you think so because it's predominately Liberal news. I assure you that it is all just hype and noise, just like Russia 'everything'. Trump will not let any of this take ground, nor will the people.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 08:29 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Didn't trump want the government involved in healthcare?






We are going to give block grants into the states for medicaid so that they can take care of the people that can't take care of themselves.



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