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The Democrat 2020 Party Platform. . . . Communism

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posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Except if the target is white. It’s woke af to make fun of white folks. In fact, it’s fighting whiteness and racism to do so.
a reply to: Bloodworth



It's ok to make fun of someone's skin color if they are only white?? You serious?

How many words can get you banned for associating words with a person of color or a Muslim? There is a long list moderators are given....

How many for white people? Zero

Goes to show who the adults are...you cannot use certain words when associating with some groups?
What is this grade school?

Then another group was brought up singing sticks and stones may break your bones, but words cannot hurt you...

And instead of getting upset over a word. They go out and work and be a parent figure.

Much harder to be more mature over certain words, work, and be a father...

And with that hard work comes reward




posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: ker2010

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: DBCowboy

Sounds like a great idea. Then I can work as a literal slave.


You can always move to Valenzuela since you have it so rough here. Or maybe move out of CA or NY? Me and wife make sub 100k a year and both have everything we could want in NC... House, fairly new cars, several 4k tvs and a nice chunk in the bank. Been on 5 vacations last 2 years.

Sounds like some bad life choices on your part / your location.

You are blessed to have been born in America stop whining cupcake.



www.youtube.com...

Starting at 1:25 for the relevant part.

Not everyone has the freedom to choose to up and move somewhere.
Venezuela is also the standard Conservative talking point when it comes to this. What about Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland, Spain, etc?
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for you and your successes. But it isn't always as simple as that.


And Nordic country's are the standard talking point of "democratic socialists" tell me though:

Whats the population of those country's? Whats the DEMOGRAPHICS of those country's, and how many illegal third world invaders do they have in them currently?

Problem with Democratic Socialists is they wanna point to Nordic country's but not admit the key differences between them and America. You want free healthcare but also want millions of illegals to stay and keep pouring in and get it as well. Pick n choose which is more important?
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posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: sdcigarpig

Satire or not, it doesn't alleviate the central premise of the current crop of dem candidates platforms.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: ker2010

Enough to not be struggling and under constant stress myself so I am full capable physically, mentally and emotionally to give my clients the care they deserve. As well as enough to incentivise others to take up my profession so that not only am I not overworked but there are enough people to cover all the clients that need us in this massively understaffed profession.

Telling people that they need to just accept crap conditions and never fight to improve the state of the world is bull# and you ķnow it.

Stop pretending everything is hunky dory and that anyone who gets paid # deserves it. That every should just accept things and never fight for more.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: DBCowboy

What do you call it when corporations write all the laws, workers have no rights, wages are priced fixed, an nobody makes enough money to meet their needs?
It’s called inflation and control by the bankers and corporate oligopoly( which is not free enterprise or the Hidden Hand of Adam Smith).



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 11:48 AM
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Ah, the greatest of all conspiracies: The thought that one person's political beliefs (opinions, really) are more important, more correct, or better than someone else's.

These threads are like reading comments from a bunch of eight year old's arguing about what color crayon is the best.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: ker2010

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: ker2010

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: DBCowboy

Sounds like a great idea. Then I can work as a literal slave.


You can always move to Valenzuela since you have it so rough here. Or maybe move out of CA or NY? Me and wife make sub 100k a year and both have everything we could want in NC... House, fairly new cars, several 4k tvs and a nice chunk in the bank. Been on 5 vacations last 2 years.

Sounds like some bad life choices on your part / your location.

You are blessed to have been born in America stop whining cupcake.



www.youtube.com...

Starting at 1:25 for the relevant part.

Not everyone has the freedom to choose to up and move somewhere.
Venezuela is also the standard Conservative talking point when it comes to this. What about Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland, Spain, etc?
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for you and your successes. But it isn't always as simple as that.


And Nordic country's are the standard talking point of "democratic socialists" tell me though:

Whats the population of those country's? Whats the DEMOGRAPHICS of those country's, and how many illegal third world invaders do they have in them currently?

Problem with Democratic Socialists is they wanna point to Nordic country's but not admit the key differences between them and America. You want free healthcare but also want millions of illegals to stay and keep pouring in and get it as well. Pick n choose which is more important?


I never said I wanted free healthcare. I want the US to have health care that's as affordable here as it is in other countries that have BETTER healthcare than us.

Their population is significantly lower, yes. I get that argument. However, because we have more people, we'd be putting more money into the system because more people are taxed. It extrapolates quite well. We have a much larger population, but because of the larger population we'd have more money in the medical fund.

I just completely disagree with you that we're being overrun by illegal immigrants. It isn't as big of an issue as you make it out to be.

Why do demographics matter? We're all humans, and we all need the same health care.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: Puppylove

They mean what?

To rob Peter to give you something? How does that help anyone? If you got yourself in a bad spot before, then you won't change the behavior that got you into a bad spot before, and this time Peter resents you for taking what he had. That makes everything better. I can see it, and look around you. Society is a reflection of it. Every group hates every other group because they're all banking on the left robbing Peter to give it to them, so they're all fighting against each other to try to make it to the top of the "I'm More Deserving Than He Is" pile.

That's a wonderful world you're living in.

It's not a world of leaning left because you might get helped. It's a world of leaning left because you're greedy and think the next handout might come your way. Admit it.

It's not a world of being "Woke." It's a world of trying to be "Broke" so someone will pity you and throw you some pennies.
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posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 11:57 AM
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Eh, yes and no. Just like any topic, some political ideas do have more merit than others. Provided they are evidence-based.

For example, either there is agricultural run off creating a dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico, or there is not. Or any other number of environmental issues. People who ‘believe’ sound ecological policy doesn’t matter have lesser beliefs or honesty on the topic.

If someone claims the US is always fighting for democracy and freedom across the world, then their belief is ahistorical.

There are some political beliefs though that are more up for interpretation.
a reply to: usernameconspiracy


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posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

In order to fight for those things, we would have to actually go and install them by occupying those countries and ruthlessly installing them generationally. We can't just go in destroy the place and leave again.

We would have to do more or less what we did to Japan which was to remake the place from the ground pretty much culturally as well as simply destroying it and we were there for a generation rebuilding and occupying.

These days, we lack the will to do that. China does not and they will do it if we let them. They'll do it to us, if we let them.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 12:04 PM
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Sure, like post wwii.

However, it’s a historical fact the US has often acted contrary to those goals, and more in line with geo political hegemony. That’s what I meant by the “muh world’s freedom police” belief being misinformed.

a reply to: ketsuko



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 12:05 PM
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Look.

Building on me comment above.

What the Western world has (or had) is a society based on trust. You trusted your fellow man to act honorably and respect the rule of law. This is based on the idea of respect for person and property. But socialism doesn't have that. You don't have your own property and in some societies, not even right to person.

In the old communist countries you wouldn't ever have the types of online shopping you have today. Everyone was out solely for himself, so the idea that you would trust some unknown person to take your money and then mail you what he said he would after taking your money would be totally foreign and impossible. Yet we think largely nothing of it.

This idea that we're all competing tribal groups is rapidly breaking down that society of trust. If we continue down this path of everyone automatically owing other people stuff because they merely exist, that trust continues to erode. The rule of law cannot exist in such a climate because the idea of static rules and apply no matter what, no matter who you are, what you are, will be constantly shifting under our feet.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Sure, like post wwii.

However, it’s a historical fact the US has often acted contrary to those goals, and more in line with geo political hegemony. That’s what I meant by the “muh world’s freedom police” belief being misinformed.

a reply to: ketsuko



I wasn't disagreeing only marking out what it would take for that statement to be true.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: sdcigarpig

Satire or not, it doesn't alleviate the central premise of the current crop of dem candidates platforms.



Then my suggestion would be for the GOP to field a group of candidates not in the Corporate Oligarchs pocket and actually care about the plight of the American working man. And stop the obscene economic disparity between the workers and the elite scum pulling the strings.

The republican attitude of "let them eat cake" needs to stop...
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posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 12:22 PM
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The Democrat 2020 Party Platform?
Anti Free Speech.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX
I do not care how you paint it Never Communism. If you are ok with mediocrity or less because everyone else is the same way do it. Go buy some land and start a commune. But if you try to change the country as a whole or alter our Constitution as it is written then you have a very serious fight on your hands.

Socialism/Communism stifles creativity. It fosters laziness and breeds envy. I cannot and will not stand idle to this assault on our freedom. What are you some excessive pot smoking numbed out idiot. With this attitude sweeping our country civil war is not an if but a when.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 12:33 PM
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Donald Trump, Jr. confirms last night that Democrats' platform is now "Un-American".

twitter.com...




posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

When in my post did I support the left? I was explaining why things are what they are. Those 'groups' you mention are just noise. The working class and their problems are the majority and are a part of every group. All the minority competing divisive crap is noise to keep the working class divided and distracted.

The left are worse than the right because they are all kinds of deceptive. Which is why they win more often.

Neither side truly supports the working class, just the lobbyists bribing them.



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: narrator
I thought Obummer care was supposed to fix that. Democrats running on health care platform is ludicrous . Now they need to admit it failed or why would they run on it again. Socialist health care will be the ruination of this country. Where to get the money. Tax the rich? That won't put a dent in the cost. Tax corporations more? They will leave again just like when Bush, Clinton and Obama were in office. Tax small business more? I am a small business and I will shut my doors as it is already expensive enough to keep employees. The real answer is just what President Trump wants,bring more manufacturing back to the US. Stop illegals from pouring over the border. Make the lazy entitlement takers who VOTE DEMOCRAT, work for God's sake. And you name one program just one program that government has taken over that is run correctly. Communism is just that government deciding when you live and when you die. Shove it commie!!!!!



posted on Jan, 30 2019 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I like a lot of what you do on ATS, but..........I think you've been somewhat mislead by that website you referenced.

There isn't an extant 2020 Dem Party Platform. You can see the extant platform at:
democrats.org...

There you will learn the following:


What follows is our 2016 platform — our most progressive platform in our party’s history and a declaration of how we plan to move America forward. Democrats believe that cooperation is better than conflict, unity is better than division, empowerment is better than resentment, and bridges are better than walls. This party platform was voted on and passed by our membership at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia in 2016. The platform will be updated and re-approved at the 2020 Democratic National Convention.


Did I waste my time reading the damned thing in some misguided effort to prove your talking points wrong? No.

The reason I didn't is two fold. First, the two major parties have long ignored their party platforms. They are therefore mostly meaningless tripe and "feel good" rhetoric. I am actually unsure if anyone reads them other than extreme political junkies and why? Because, again, they're ignored.

The second reason Party Platforms are really of no importance whatsoever is that US political parties are NOT genuine Political Parties. They function more along the lines of social organizations, complete with store fronts and signs and membership applications. Thus, they don't function like real political parties. There's no "party discipline" and there's no mechanisms within the parties to enforce any "party discipline". As such, there are Democrats in the Republican party and vica versa. There's no rigorous promotion of ideology and no enforcement of ideological purity. Thus for example, my "Republican" Congressman votes PRO-ABORTION, and by the same token, I've seen Democrat candidates proclaim themselves to be PRO-LIFE.

For examples of REAL political parties, look to Hitler's Nazi Party, Sadaam Husseins Baathist Party and of course the Russian Communist Party of Josef Stalin.
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