An End To The Moon Conspiracy!

So what is to prevent the signal from coming directly to the radio telescope on the earth?

Poor transmision from the moon, did you look at those lunar rovers, take a look at their antenas, it's a joke I'll get in to the caracteristics later.

Where did I EVER say anything like that? (whatever “that” is

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then please provide how was the moon transmision posible, pease step by step, what was used and how did they transmit from the moon.


Can you do that, provide information on how did the moon transmision took place, steep by steep, what eqiuptment was used, how was the signal relayed , from the start to the end, and I'll show you it does not hold water.
Can you start?, I await your aswer.


[edit on 16-8-2006 by pepsi78]

Originally posted by pepsi78

So what is to prevent the signal from coming directly to the radio telescope on the earth?

Poor transmision from the moon, did you look at those lunar rovers, take a look at their antenas, it's a joke

I'll get in to the caracteristics later.

Then how is it that amateur radio enthusiasts are able to bounce signals off the moon and receive them back on Earth?

Originally posted by pepsi78

Where did I EVER say anything like that? (whatever “that” is

)

then please provide how was the moon transmision posible, pease step by step, what was used and how did they transmit from the moon.


Can you do that, provide information on how did the moon transmision took place, steep by steep, what eqiuptment was used, how was the signal relayed , from the start to the end, and I'll show you it does not hold water.
Can you start?, I await your aswer.


[edit on 16-8-2006 by pepsi78]

Dude, this is your theory, and your claim. It is not my job to provide you with anything.

Your claims, your proof.


(Be sure to show your math.)

So what is to prevent the signal from coming directly to the radio telescope on the earth?

they bounce it alright, but they get the same thing, they get what they transmit, they dont get another transmision coming from the moon,this thing is only good for helping in sending mesages to the moon and it would help with the relay, if they were on the other part of the moon not facing the earth.
But that is just for sending mesages to the moon, how about geting from the moon a signal sent by the ones on the moon?how do you do that?
You cant say, hey I'm comunicating with the moon, I'm sending a mesage and I'm bouncing it off and I'm geting the signal back, you get your own signal back, the one sent by you, you dont get a message sent by the people on the moon.

Then how is it that amateur radio enthusiasts are able to bounce signals off the moon and receive them back on Earth?

It implies powerful dishes , to be able to send the signal, those were not present on the moon, for that you need a comunication station, or do you think they can bounce signals with their walky talkis ?

I thought those signals were bounced off of the ionosphere. But my more important question is how in the heck do they these signals are bouncing off of the moon? Is there some sensor there that tells them? There's alot of space between here and there and there is too much science that is being rewritten for me to just accept what scientists say about space anymore.

Off topic...
Is there a difference between bouncing off the ionosphere and bouncing off the moon?

It may be true that they can bounce radiowaves, if they have powerful equiptment here on earth they can do it, this is done only for relay prupose.
However what I'm asking is if the antena that was broadcasting on the moon messages to earth was capable of sending messages to the dish on earth?
This is what I dont accept, it's just imposible, with no capabile equptment on the moon, with ne relay to relay the signal it's just imposible, we are talking about 250.000 miles in to space, how can a 5 inch antena send a signal that would make it all the way here to earth is not clear to me, with out any relay, with out anything, and yet they comunicated in realtime, with no delays, they sent live video feed , some of you wonder why nasa has lost the tapes of the whole expedition, maybe because they never existed?

Originally posted by pepsi78

It implies powerful dishes , to be able to send the signal, those were not present on the moon, for that you need a comunication station, or do you think they can bounce signals with their walky talkis ?

With today’s equipment, it isn’t that hard to do, Not quite something you would want to do if you weren’t a hardcore radio hobbyist, but it certainly isn’t out of the realm of possibilities.

www.arrl.org...

Back in 1969, they had the top of the line, state of the art, 64 meter antenna on Earth.

Either way, if you are bouncing a signal from the earth, or if you are transmitting a signal from the moon, the signal is still going from the moon to earth.

The difference is that when you have a transmitter and a directional antenna, you can focus more of the signal to the earth. when you bounce a signal it is fairly diffuse.

Originally posted by BadMojo
I thought those signals were bounced off of the ionosphere. But my more important question is how in the heck do they these signals are bouncing off of the moon? Is there some sensor there that tells them? There's alot of space between here and there and there is too much science that is being rewritten for me to just accept what scientists say about space anymore.

Off topic...
Is there a difference between bouncing off the ionosphere and bouncing off the moon?

The speed of light is 299,792,458 m/s

The average earth to moon distance 384,400,000 m

Time for a signal to go to the moon and to return: approx 2.5 seconds.

If it was bouncing off something else, the time would be different.

The speed of light is 299,792,458 m/s

The average earth to moon distance 384,400,000 m

Time for a signal to go to the moon and to return: approx 2.5 seconds.

If it was bouncing off something else, the time would be different.

speed has nothing to do with how long a signal ca travel, that only depends on the sterth of the signal.
It can have speed and die out, at that fase it becomes undetectable.

Either way, if you are bouncing a signal from the earth, or if you are transmitting a signal from the moon, the signal is still going from the moon to earth.

yes but it's the same signal that you recive back, it just bounces off and comes back, my question is how did the astronauts send the signal to earth, not how some radio specialist managed to bounce the signal and get it back the way he sent it.
Tv transmison from the moon, how was it done?
Did they just aimed the antena on to earth and started to transmit live tv feed?
I'm intrestid in how they did that.
Bouncing singals from earth to the moon and back does not create a oportunity for the astronauts to transmit live feed from the moon, it only bouces back the signal that originated from earth.





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Camelot on the Moon
Here is one version where there were 3 special dishes built around the World to communicate. He claims the signal was sent to Maryland to be processed and then to Houston. Other versions say the signal was seen on moniters at the dishes. My version is that they pressed a button which said record but it actually just played these infamous tapes on the special machines they needed, while the actual data from the Moon was sent to Maryland.

Howard & Pepsi,

I suspect that one of you is a disinformation artist working this website to bury the truth or any semblance to it. I made a post a page back that I was hoping to get a reply to, but the two of you have managed to bury it with a dumb arguement about whether we could pick up a weak transmission from the moon or not.

Nice move whichever one of you is it.

davenman

Please take your accusations elsewhere. Not all posts get seen or answered. It happens simply when there is a heated discussion going on, such as this one. Throwing around accusations such as yours just because someone missed your questions is simply going to incite more unneeded drama. The proper thing to do would be to simply ask the questions again.

If you would like to dispute this with me, please do so via u2u with me. You can also send u2us to the forum moderators or submit a complaint for the entire staff of ATS to see. Please do not continue this line of discussion within this thread. Thank you.

a while back one of the "conspiracy" programes about the moon landings shown in the uk stated that either china or japan was sending a satalite to the moon and would be scanning the surface (similar to mars orbiter?) has anyone heard anymore about this? surely the images from this satalite would prove conclusively if the rovers and flags ect are still there or ever have been?

Commander Keen,

You are right. I apologize for my bad attitude and high mindedness.

Originally posted by davenman
The lost NASA tapes sure seem to throw more fuel on this fire.

One has to ask why NASA doesn't know where tapes of such importance are.

Would such tapes prove that man never walked on the moon?

I used to wonder how anyone could doubt that men walked on the moon. Now the issue is totally open to me.

Not really, plenty of copies exist of the original tapes. This issue is realy more of an archival issue than anything else.

Howard,

Can you provide a link to the evidence that copies exist? From what I read in an article about these tapes, the copies were sent back into the computer room to be erased and used for something else once the originals were safely put into the archives.

Do a quick google video search on neil armstrong, or "first man on the moon"...you will get hundreds if not thousands of hits of videos from the first moon mission. Trust me, there are too many copies of the lost tapes to count.

Yes there are copies, but the problem is the way the copies were made. They are copies of the original telvision broadcast.

The original television broadcast was made basically by positioning a TV camera to record off of NASA's video monitor. That's like these guys who will sell you a bootleg copy of a movie just released in the theaters yesterday. They made a recording off of a monitor, not from the original feed.

So...what I am looking for is a copy of NASA's original, not the TV original that was of bootleg quality.

I have another 2 questions...How many landings were there on the moon? and how many different astronaut were there in all?

Originally posted by davenman

I have another 2 questions...How many landings were there on the moon? and how many different astronaut were there in all?

So, Your browser dosn't do Google?

Originally posted by davenman
I have another 2 questions...How many landings were there on the moon? and how many different astronaut were there in all?

8 Apollo spacecraft went to the moon (Apollo 10 - 17), 6 landed (Apollo 10 and 13 didn't land). There were 3 astronauts per Apollo spacecraft, but only 2 could go in the LM. 12 different astronauts have been on the surface of the moon.

Here's a good site to check out if you want to learn more daveman www.hq.nasa.gov...


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