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An End To The Moon Conspiracy!


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reply posted on 9-6-2005 @ 05:22 PM by Identity_Unknown




Why after an absence of 3 decades? Whats stopping anyone from doing it??



Little grey men that told the US to keep away from their Moon back in the 70's!




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reply posted on 9-6-2005 @ 06:50 PM by A Random Person


We went to the moon.
You name most of the standard faked landing *proofs* I will gladly debunk them.
If we didn't go to the moon then how did we place a reflector for a laser there?
It fires the laser directly back where it was fired from.
It is used for various things, including detecting the minor axis shift during the december earthquake.
d,
EDIT: Oh yeah, the comps on the ships may have been equal to a calculator, but they were specialised for the math work, which they sent back to nasa where it was stored and checked.

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reply posted on 9-6-2005 @ 07:10 PM by Amorymeltzer


Because after 3.5 decades, we can't. Physically can't.

We need a rocket that is X powerful. We have shuttles that are X-alot powerful.

Titan V was the only one that could get there, and the plans for that have (stupidly) been thrown out.



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reply posted on 9-6-2005 @ 07:18 PM by Bulldog 52


According to UK TV last week the Apollo mission did land on the moon, most of the debunking theories were explained away quite easily. The lunar lander was tracked here by Jodrell Bank radio telescope which showed Armstrong having to increase power on the lander as not to land in a crater. They also left laser rangefinding equipment that is still being used today.See here geophysics.ou.edu...



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reply posted on 9-6-2005 @ 10:32 PM by turbonium


We have satellites orbiting Earth that can take a photo of a pimple on Madonna's butt, yet we still can't get an Apollo landing site pic other than that Clementine photo with that stupid dot that could be anything?

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reply posted on 12-6-2005 @ 03:41 PM by BigPimpin


I think that we did land on the moon, but the Gov. didnt want us to see the real pics, maybe there were UFO's or something there. If we really did fake it, the soviets would have been the first to tell the world. Also, it makes sense, because if aliens did really try to warn us off the moon, then that is the reason why we havn't gone there for a while.



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reply posted on 13-6-2005 @ 02:36 AM by turbonium


I don't think that's true. The USSR has never ratted on the US over JFK or 9/11 or the USS Liberty or anything at all. Likewise, the US has never ratted on the Soviets about their many cover-ups. It's a case of "you don't squeal on us, and we won't squeal on you. There are way to many cover-ups that could have been exposed by each country to think that they couldn't have done it, or certainly at least tried to expose them. I don't think either of them want to start a "conspiracy war" with the other!

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reply posted on 13-6-2005 @ 10:07 AM by sensfan



We have satellites orbiting Earth that can take a photo of a pimple on Madonna's butt, yet we still can't get an Apollo landing site pic other than that Clementine photo with that stupid dot that could be anything?


Where have you seen a satellite photo that can give you that much detail? Sure, we've heard of them, but spy satellite images are not to be seen by us. Even so, we dont' have satellites that strong orbitting the moon, so you dont' get images showing that much detail.



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reply posted on 13-6-2005 @ 10:59 AM by Memorialday1999


I have read quite a few interesting conspiracy theory's on this site so far but this one, well, it takes the cake. Are there really people that believe the moon landing was faked? That is one of the most absurd things I think I have head so far here. I am more inclined to start believing in aliens than in this theory.

Please keep in mind that I have noticed the same posters that propose that America is capable of mass conspiracies are the same posters that state that America is dumb as dirt. Thus if our gov't is so stupid, how is it that we have the brains to pull off large lies like this? I am finding a few statements around here to be contradicting and inconsistent. Has anyone provided any proof about this? And please do not link me to anymore conspiracy websites as I do not find that to be proof of anything. I am look for more hardcore evidence if such exists. Thank you.



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reply posted on 14-6-2005 @ 02:26 AM by turbonium


Where have you seen a satellite photo that can give you that much detail? Sure, we've heard of them, but spy satellite images are not to be
seen by us. Even so, we dont' have satellites that strong orbitting the moon, so you dont' get images showing that much detail. 

That goes to my point - we have the technology to land on the moon six times without a hitch almost 40 years ago, but we can't even take a decent PHOTO of the landing sites 40 years later! It makes it sound like a bizarro world where technology devolves instead of advancing!



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reply posted on 14-6-2005 @ 06:19 AM by aelphaeis_mangarae


Fact 1: It would appear obvious to anyone with even half a damn brain the footage was fake.

Fact 2: It would also appear that it is possible there is evidence to suggest the Apollo equipment is on the moon.

I don't know what to conclude to this.

1. If the moon landing was fake the KGB would of exposed it?

Answer: I don't know.

2. If President Kennedy wasn't assasinated by a KGB agent then wouldn't the KGB expose it?

Answer: They didn't expose it, even though it is now known Lee Harvey Oswald is was a CIA Agent.

Are the Russians smart enough to expose the OKC bombing scam? How about 9/11? What about the WTC Bombing in 1993?


I think you guys should check out the following links:

www.erichufschmid.net...



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reply posted on 14-6-2005 @ 08:34 AM by apc



Originally posted by aelphaeis_mangarae
Fact 1: It would appear obvious to anyone with even half a damn brain the footage was fake.


Must be the other half that contains the reason, logic, memory, and intelligence centers.



Fact 2: It would also appear that it is possible there is evidence to suggest the Apollo equipment is on the moon.


Evidence to 'suggest?' Well yes, just as I suggest that I'm sitting here right now. Just a suggestion.



I don't know what to conclude to this.


Sure you do. Come on... admit it.



1. If the moon landing was fake the KGB would of exposed it?


They tried, as expected, but quickly backed off when their credibility went flush because everyone knew from their own observations that we really did land.



Are the Russians smart enough to expose the OKC bombing scam? How about 9/11? What about the WTC Bombing in 1993?



You're equating us landing on the Moon to highly probable CIA motivated 'terrorist' attacks? mmk. Think the Russi's really care?



I think you guys should check out the following links:

www.erichufschmid.net...


That's almost as good as my Christian site showing that because the entire universe rotates around a fixed static Earth (as stated in the Bible, of course), the Apollo missions were a fraud. Apparently the rockets never even left the ground. Calling someone a liar by perpetuating more falsehoods only brings conviction in the minds of those who dont matter anyway. Small, rat like "humans" who wander the Earth in a semiconscious daze. Let the feeding begin.



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reply posted on 14-6-2005 @ 11:33 PM by turbonium


If we did land on the moon (which I don't beliieve) then they better come up with something to back up their claims!
From this link Now Don't You Look Foolish!
"Put aside those absurd claims the Apollo Moon landings were a hoax. Two scientists pouring over photos taken by a lunar orbiting spacecraft have eyed evidence of a touchdown."

external image
See that dot there? No, not that dot. THAT dot.....see, what more proof do you need? Plain as day, isn't it? Boy, you sure look foolish now for ever thinking we didn't land on the moon!

And so, as I explain to my children the reason we "landed on the moon" nearly forty years ago, but today cannot even get a decent photo of where we "landed", I envision the day forty years from now, when my kids explain things to their kids......

Year 2045....
Dad: "Look here, son. Check it out - they just took a rocket ship into outer space!! Hoho - just look at the surprise on your face!!"
Junior: "But Dad, I thought we landed on the moon 80 years ago?"
Dad: "Well, you're right, son. We certainly did. But think about how much moon technology has regressed since then! Remember, while all other high-tech industries pertaining to computers, communication, electrical and mechanical engineering have greatly progressed, the moon industry is a different case! 80 years ago, we landed on the moon six times flawlessly. 40 years ago, we were just barely able to photograph a small dot where we landed. All things considered, it's amazing we can still propel a rocket into the air!"



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reply posted on 15-6-2005 @ 01:03 AM by apc



See that dot there? No, not that dot. THAT dot.....see, what more proof do you need? Plain as day, isn't it? Boy, you sure look foolish now for ever thinking we didn't land on the moon!

what do you want? A picture of the shadow cast by the flag? Wanna count the grooves in Armstrongs bootprints? How about you whip up the fantastic amazing camera to do it.

Meanwhile, satellites will be orbiting taking high resolution imagery of the entire surface, and you just might be able to see the shadow cast by the flag, and just maybe the grooves in Armstrongs bootprints. Will you then declare that beyond all doubt they were edited in?

Moon tech has regressed? So you must be saying that because we haven't gone back.. that's the technology regression. So what exactly was there to do on the Moon in 79? 84? 90? Twiddle our thumbs and wait for present day and soon to come 'Moon Tech' to be invented?



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reply posted on 15-6-2005 @ 11:57 PM by turbonium


what do you want? A picture of the shadow cast by the flag? Wanna count the grooves in Armstrongs bootprints? How about you whip up the
fantastic amazing camera to do it. 
Meanwhile, satellites will be orbiting taking high resolution imagery of the entire surface, and you just might be able to see the shadow cast by the flag, and just maybe the grooves in Armstrongs bootprints. Will you then declare that beyond all doubt they were edited in?

Moon tech has regressed? So you must be saying that because we haven't gone back.. that's the technology regression. So what exactly was there to do on the Moon in 79? 84? 90? Twiddle our thumbs and wait for present day and soon to come 'Moon Tech' to be invented?


Just a damn picture of the buggy or buggy tracks or lem base will do. Is that really so much to ask for? Why wouldn't NASA do it for PR purposes alone - John Q Public doesn't give a lump about the Shuttle missions. As for what to do on the Moon, they have been discussing all the reasons in many recent articles, take a browse for them, they are easy to find.
Compare the Shuttle to Apollo: The Shuttles have been in use consistently for 24 years on over 100 missions orbiting Earth, and NASA says there is much to learn from future missions. But you say they learned everything about going to and from the Moon and discovered and studied everything possible about the Moon in 7 total missions over 4 years, so they stopped doing it 35 years ago?

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reply posted on 16-6-2005 @ 08:50 AM by apc



Originally posted by turbonium

Just a damn picture of the buggy or buggy tracks or lem base will do. Is that really so much to ask for? Why wouldn't NASA do it for PR purposes alone - John Q Public doesn't give a lump about the Shuttle missions. As for what to do on the Moon, they have been discussing all the reasons in many recent articles, take a browse for them, they are easy to find.
Compare the Shuttle to Apollo: The Shuttles have been in use consistently for 24 years on over 100 missions orbiting Earth, and NASA says there is much to learn from future missions. But you say they learned everything about going to and from the Moon and discovered and studied everything possible about the Moon in 7 total missions over 4 years, so they stopped doing it 35 years ago?


Erm... well like I said, once the high res mapping is complete you'll have your pictures. Until then why would anyone expect them to send a sat up to take pictures just to disprove the small population percentage that believes we didnt land. No sat? Wanna take a pic from Earth? Again there's no cameras to do it (not owned by the people who care, anyway). Why should someone invent a camera to see surface detail from Earth, when there is zero need yet. If this is such a problem, again I would recommend taking up a camera design career.

Yes, of course there would have been countless reasons we could have gone to the Moon over the past 30 years, but none of them have been economically viable. Seriously what would we have done up there in the 80's? Sat around saying "Well... we know we can build houses out of this here Moon dust, and we know how to do it.. we just dont know how to do it."

There's been no reason to go back until prospects that it could be profitable improve. Otherwise, noone wants to budget 50 billion dollars towards a purely scientific venture. It's bad business.



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reply posted on 16-6-2005 @ 05:20 PM by ThaJoka


Someone got to tell me how the flag can be moving in this movie.
www.moonmovie.com...

Also, has anyone seen the movie "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon." ?
www.moonmovie.com...



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reply posted on 16-6-2005 @ 08:25 PM by apc



Originally posted by ThaJoka
Someone got to tell me how the flag can be moving in this movie.
www.moonmovie.com...

Also, has anyone seen the movie "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon." ?
www.moonmovie.com...




LOL.
Ok, you pay for it, and Ill watch it. Deal?
Id be sure to use a tracable paper payment method though... their business address is a UPS store PO Box.

AFTH, LLC, 73 White Bridge Rd., Ste. 103, #236, Nashville, TN 37205

The UPS Store #02785
73 White Bridge Rd Ste 103
Nashville, TN 37205-1444
(615) 353-9944

Ill bet whenever they check their mail theyre wearing sunglasses and a hat



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reply posted on 22-6-2005 @ 09:25 AM by Identity_Unknown



Originally posted by ThaJoka
Someone got to tell me how the flag can be moving in this movie.
www.moonmovie.com...



Easily the most debunked Moon myth of them all!

Get with the times ThaJoka. Sheesh




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reply posted on 30-6-2005 @ 04:57 PM by livenlearn


I've got a question. I've read that some of the conspiracy is due to the dust being kicked up by the vehicle on the moon. Then there was the fact that when so and so hit a golf ball on the moon it didn't go as far as it should have. If a golf ball tee'd up on the moon and hit should go a long ways, then why couldn't dust from the groud be kicked up a long ways?



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