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Originally posted by weedwhacker
I would think that, eventually, a Moderator will be made aware and after a review of your historic postings will tend to agree with the rest of us.
Originally posted by weedwhackerLooks more and more like we're being 'punked' by pre-teens or adolescents who think it's funny. If that is the case, the Moderators should take notice?
"There is no medicine that will effectively prevent nuclear radiations from damaging the human body cells that they strike.However, a salt of the elements potassium and iodine, taken orally even in very small quantities 1/2 hour to 1 day before radioactive iodines are swallowed or inhaled, prevents about 99% of the damage to the thyroid gland that otherwise would result. The thyroid gland readily absorbs both non-radioactive and radioactive iodine, and normally it retains much of this element in either or both forms.
Personally I am going to stick with the electromagnetic shielding that they have on those spacecraft
I tried to explain, nay, plead to a particular member that his/her radiation data is incorrect and to explain it in more scientific detail. I was not, as you mentioned, crying for Moderators to shut down someone who disagreed with me!
So...you and I, Zorgon, are in agreement that there are permanent human bases on the Moon right now...this is not based on your comments in this thread, but in others, and primarily in the John Lear Forum, where these comments can be verified. Ergo, any claim by a participant in this thread that the Moon is 'radioactive', or that cislunar space is immediately lethal to humans, or even that the VA belts cannot possibly be transversed by manned spacecraft should be challenged to the utmost.
Well, perhaps you have a point...even if a so called 'expert' wants to spout radiation data that makes no sense, they have every right...but doesn't it waste time?
Just my opinion, thank you for your thoughts on the matter.
Ergo, any claim by a participant in this thread that the Moon is 'radioactive'
September 8, 2005: On the Moon, many of the things that can kill you are invisible: breathtaking vacuum, extreme temperatures and space radiation top the list.
Vacuum and temperature NASA can handle; spacesuits and habitats provide plenty of air and insulation. Radiation, though, is trickier.
The surface of the Moon is baldly exposed to cosmic rays and solar flares, and some of that radiation is very hard to stop with shielding. Furthermore, when cosmic rays hit the ground, they produce a dangerous spray of secondary particles right at your feet. All this radiation penetrating human flesh can damage DNA, boosting the risk of cancer and other maladies.
Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
reply to post by pepsi78
If you have specific doses of radiation (in 'rems' or 'sieverts') that you say the astronauts would have absorbed if they were actually on the Moon, please post those numbers, and also post the source of the information.
And, by the way, don't say that I never produce numbers to back up my statements, because I usually do (just like in our "acceleration due to gravity" debate we had last week).
The only problem is this time, I have no data to give you, since you are talking about a large solar flare that never happened. The flare in question was so small that I'm having a hard time finding data that is relevant to radiation doses received by the astronauts.
If you have this information, please share it with us.
Originally posted by pepsi78
A measure of ionization that is defined for X-rays and gamma-rays up to the energy of 3 MeV. It is about equivalent to 100 ergs per gram of energy deposited in air.
1 rad = 100 ergs per gram
300 ergs per gram is the equivalent of 9 MeV.
That being said 300 ergs equals 3 rads exposure.
3 rads exposure per hour X 20 hours otside the lem.
That would mean 60 rads just for being on the moon surface.
25-100 Rads - Typically people with this level of radiation exposure experience a loss of appetite and a small amount of nausea and sickness for the higher end of this dose category. Blood changes are noticeable. Up to 25 percent of persons experiencing this level of exposure will be incapacitated, but none will die. The normal period of convalescence will be about 7 days.
My conclusion, and it is my personal opinion that the apollo moon program is a hoax.
Explanation: If you could turn off the atmosphere's ability to scatter overwhelming sunlight, today's daytime sky might look something like this ... with the Sun surrounded by the stars of the constellations Taurus and Gemini. Of course, today is the Solstice. Traveling along the ecliptic plane, the Sun is at its northernmost position in planet Earth's sky, marking the astronomical beginning of summer in the north. Accurate for the exact time of today's Solstice, this composite image also shows the Sun at the proper scale (about the angular size of the Full Moon). Open star cluster M35 is to the Sun's left, and the other two bright stars in view are Mu and Eta Geminorum. Digitally superimposed on a nighttime image of the stars, the Sun itself is a composite of a picture taken through a solar filter and a series of images of the solar corona recorded during the solar eclipse of February 26, 1998 by Andreas Gada.
I mentioned there is a secret space program currently underway, multi-national in nature, with resulting permanent bases on the Moon...despite your assurances on this forum that the radiation makes it impossible for humans to survive. How do you reconcile this discrepancy?