Empire star involved in possible hate hoax?

This has been a very VERY bad week for Democrats.

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: SamWells

Interesting, from your source:

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CPD has subpoenaed Smollett’s phone records, per a friend on the force.

If the police have indeed issued a warrant for Smollett's phone records it means they have probably cause and a judge agreed with them. Otherwise they'd still ha e to rely on Smallett's word.

I wonder what tips they got especially considering having a warrant issued, those tips would have to be credible to allow for the issuance of a warrant for the phone records.

Looks like Jussie isn't cooperating.

HATE HOAX: Smollett Turns Over “Limited & Redacted” Phone Records – Police Say Records Do Not Meet Burden For Criminal Investigation

Yeah, who could have guessed that trying to redact the records you turn over to police would make them think you're trying to hide something?

Chicago Police told ABC News that Smollett finally gave detectives his “limited and redacted” phone records Monday afternoon.

The police later told ABC News reporters that the phone records provided to detectives do not meet the burden for a criminal investigation.

Chicago police spokesman says “Detectives may be following up with him (Smollett) to request additional data to corroborate the investigative timeline.”

Jussie Smollett defended by crisis manager as Chicago police say phone records 'insufficient'

Smollett's crisis manager, Chris Bastardi, told Fox News: “Jussie is the victim here, which has been stated by the Superintendent of Police. Jussie has voluntarily provided his phone records from within an hour of the attack and given multiple statements to police. Chicago PD has repeatedly informed us that they find Jussie's account of what happened that night consistent and credible. Superintendent Johnson has been clear from Day 1 that Jussie is a victim.

Smollett did not initially submit his phone records to investigators when asked but later submitted a redacted version that detectives have judged to be “insufficient.”

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Bastardi told Fox News that any redacted information was "intended to protect the privacy of personal contacts or high-profile individuals not relevant to the attack.”

This guy now has a "crisis manager". really??!?!!

Wow, nothing to see here.....hahaha..

Also, when providing evidence to the police, it is their job to protect the content of the data from being leaked or used in any way other than as part of the investigation. You do NOT filter it yourself....otherwise it would be inadmissible in court as tainted, and ruin your case (if, that is, you really wanted it to be fully investigated).

a reply to: Krakatoa

His crisis manager is called Bastardi. Is this some kind of joke?

... look slike the obvious liar and race baiter Smollett has refused to hand over records that show the time when hsi manager claims to have called him...pffft. What a sham.

Smollett needs to be charged.

a reply to: UKTruth

Yeah, here is what theyt turned over as "evidence" and "phone records":

The New York Post’s “Page Six” column first reported Monday that phone records for Smollett and his manager, whom he told authorities he was speaking with during the attack, were turned over to Chicago police Superintendent Eddie Johnson’s chief of staff. But hours after receiving the records — a heavily redacted document file of the actor’s calls and a screenshot of his manager’s phone calls — a spokesman for Johnson said detectives would likely need additional data from Smollett to crack the case.

Source @ Chicago Tribune

A document file he created with some phone records and a screenshot from his manager's phone, really?? Either these people are genuinely stupid to a high degree or hiding a conspiracy to perpetrate a hoax, a racial hate based politically biased hoax.

I think a judge needs to get involved now, and legal papers served to the Telco for the records.

EUREKA! I figured out why bleach, I think, it's 'cause he's black and they wanted to 'bleach' him white, right? (Didn't know that was a thing) So you got a noose, bleach, rednecks, MAGA, and a homophobic beat down all at once. That must be enough stacked stereotypes to guarantee it's true, no? It's remarkable.

a reply to: Krakatoa

The redacted parts of his phone records probably lead to Presidential candidate Kamala Harris. They are friends, and she is trying to get an "anti-lynching" bill through Congress.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Krakatoa

The redacted parts of his phone records probably lead to Presidential candidate Kamala Harris. They are friends, and she is trying to get an "anti-lynching" bill through Congress.

Because? Until then, lynching is legal?

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Krakatoa

The redacted parts of his phone records probably lead to Presidential candidate Kamala Harris. They are friends, and she is trying to get an "anti-lynching" bill through Congress.

Because? Until then, lynching is legal?

Of course not Mr. Hyperbole.

However, all accusers need to prove their accusations in a court of law until a crime has been confirmed. And, when the main accuser refuses to release a full account and all relevant data pertaining to that accusation, it does send the signal that something is not quite right.

Why would the ample video surveillance cameras throughout the city not show anything clear, or worthy of the police not even needing these records to prove a case?

Why has Chicago spent all that taxpayer $$$$ on the cameras and police hours to not find anything when the streets are essentially empty?!?

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Krakatoa

The redacted parts of his phone records probably lead to Presidential candidate Kamala Harris. They are friends, and she is trying to get an "anti-lynching" bill through Congress.

The crisis manager did say they were trying to protect a high-profile individual.


Oh, and someone might want to clue in Mr. Bastardi that Superintendent Johnson isn't the guy investigating this case. He's just the supervisor, so his assurances that Smollett is the victim really don't mean a heck of a lot.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

He can be a victim. You can be a victim in a lot of ways, just not in the way they want everyone to believe.

... victim of one's own stupidity for example.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Krakatoa

The redacted parts of his phone records probably lead to Presidential candidate Kamala Harris. They are friends, and she is trying to get an "anti-lynching" bill through Congress.

Oh, and someone might want to clue in Mr. Bastardi that Superintendent Johnson isn't the guy investigating this case. He's just the supervisor, so his assurances that Smollett is the victim really don't mean a heck of a lot.

Chicago police chief Eddie Johnson is hard to figure out. He stayed silent when one of his police officers shot a jaywalker 15 times. But speaks out in support of a man (Smollett) who has no proof of anything he claimed, regarding the alleged attack.

a reply to: Krakatoa

I was just highlighting an anti-lynching bill is sort of rhetorical, unless an epidemic of lynching breaks out.

I am not a big fan of making something illegal more illegal because the government can read a person’s mind.

So you can stand down. I have been following the thread, and the recap was a wasted effort.

originally posted by: Krakatoa
a reply to: UKTruth

Yeah, here is what theyt turned over as "evidence" and "phone records":

The New York Post’s “Page Six” column first reported Monday that phone records for Smollett and his manager, whom he told authorities he was speaking with during the attack, were turned over to Chicago police Superintendent Eddie Johnson’s chief of staff. But hours after receiving the records — a heavily redacted document file of the actor’s calls and a screenshot of his manager’s phone calls — a spokesman for Johnson said detectives would likely need additional data from Smollett to crack the case.

Source @ Chicago Tribune

A document file he created with some phone records and a screenshot from his manager's phone, really?? Either these people are genuinely stupid to a high degree or hiding a conspiracy to perpetrate a hoax, a racial hate based politically biased hoax.

I think a judge needs to get involved now, and legal papers served to the Telco for the records.

Is chicago pd now going to go after this guy if it was a hoax?

a reply to: shooterbrody

They have stated that if it is found to be a hoax, then yes, he will be prosecuted for perpetrating a hate crime.

However, to be clear, he IS still a victim until it can be proven. His release of redacted phone records and a "screenshot" of his managers phone log is very suspicious. I think a judge needs to get involved to issue a search warrant for his and his managers phone records from the Telco. Bypass the victim and go directly to the unbiased company that generates and stores the records.

In addition, a bottle was found with a bleach like substance by reporters in the are near the alleged attack. The police are investigating and testing it now. But, there is no chain of custody for where this came from at all. It is plausible the reporters are sympathetic to the victim and could have planted that bottle as "evidence" to support his story. Again, another strange aspect of this story that seems too convenient that the police didn't find this first....but a reporter found it?


Really??

a reply to: Krakatoa

The phones gps will end all this "speculation".
I am surprised that he has not turned that information over to the leos as it would only help track down the perps.

a reply to: Krakatoa

In addition, a bottle was found with a bleach like substance by reporters in the are near the alleged attack

The bottle, which was found by New York Post reporters who retraced Smollett's path through Streeterville the night of the attack, was sent to a lab for analysis.
abc7chicago.com...;-empire-actor-submits-phone-records/5133055/

Danger Will Roninson

Investigators also failed to locate any evidence corroborating Smollett’s claims.
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Chicago police confirmed a New York Post story about the hot sauce bottle.

"It's unclear if that is related to the incident as it was not discovered during any of the earlier canvasses but we took it for analysis," Chicago Police Department (CPD) spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said. "The FBI is providing CPD with technical assistance on this case at our request. I'm not sure if the bottle went to their lab or one of ours."
pjmedia.com...

A hot sauce bottle? Seriously.

originally posted by: matafuchs
A hot sauce bottle? Seriously.

The FBI better contact Hillary, she carries that stuff everywhere in her purse.

I heard the the videos saw a women falling on the street where the Subway was.

Just saying...........

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan Ive thought something was fishy when the story first broke!