FBI wraps up investigation into Stephen Paddock's motive.

I think the scary part is, at the end of the day, we can guess, speculate and theorize, but we really don't know what set this guy off.
Was he insane ? Obviously.
But he was able to hide it so well as to pull off the worst mass shooting in American history.


How many more are out there that want to top his score .......And just waiting and planning.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

I'm still sticking to my theory that Paddock was an arms dealer. "Professional gambler"

The only such thing I'm aware of are poker players.

If I remember correctly, the only person who tried to say he was a professional gambler was his brother.

He had quite a bit of real estate, one apartment building alone he bought for 750,000 in Los Angeles, so it seems at first glance he had steady income from rent/leasing.

Also, this explains why many of the guns were set up like they being displayed. Because he was expecting to sell them.

Or it was for quick swap outs.

Again, why would he sell guns registered in his name?

a reply to: LSU2018

I don't really know, I just think there are too many holes for their final story to be true. There have been unanswered holes in this since it released.

The final story doesn't have enough details for there to be "too many holes". It just doesn't have answers really.

The other theories have too many holes IMO.

With his resources and intelligence there are plenty of ways he could have caused more harm than he did, seems odd planning so far in advance to buy legal weapons with bumpstock.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: [post=24150152]
Arms deal gone wrong is a popular theory that would explain some of this. A Saudi connection is another popular topic discussed when looking at this tragedy. No mention of anything like this in the investigation. Just that "we will never know what his true motives were", and "he wanted infamy" (without providing ANY evidence that he wanted infamy).

I'm still sticking to my theory that Paddock was an arms dealer. "Professional gambler" was almost certainly a cover story to hide illegal income. Anybody might get lucky once, but casinos hire the best mathematical minds on Earth to make sure you can't win money consistently. And the people who do manage to find a successful system get blacklisted. If Stephen Paddock was seriously earning a living gambling, Mandalay Bay would have treated him like a pariah, not a whale.

Also, this explains why many of the guns were set up like they being displayed. Because he was expecting to sell them.

Yep. For all we know, he worked for the same people investigating this and ended up losing his mind and started shooting one night.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: LSU2018

I don't really know, I just think there are too many holes for their final story to be true. There have been unanswered holes in this since it released.

The final story doesn't have enough details for there to be "too many holes". It just doesn't have answers really.

The other theories have too many holes IMO.

I don't disagree. The holes span from the first speech by the Sheriff to the last speech by investigators. Remember when the security guard and maintenance man interviewed on, I believe, Ellen?

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Motive for a cover up, might be that it was terrorists involved in an arms deal, and officials didn't want people freaking out about terrorists.

Those possible terrorists, if they exist would still be on the loose. Public knowing that, would create panic beyond an active shooting.

Just my thoughts, not anything official.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

My BS meter just went over the top! Too many bullets, too many guns and too little time for one guy. More like multiple shooters, CIA or FBI psyop with agenda driven outcomes to benefit their handlers, who also happen to be the DNC's handlers.

Cheers - Dave

originally posted by: opethPA
Or, like Occam, I'm going to go with the most simple explanation.. He was exactly what the report said he was: A horribly selfish person that killed 58 people including himself.

The woke minds can run with the theory that he was a lizard, shape shifting, Mandela effected , CIA mind controlled agent.

More often then not the real world is not a TV episode or movie plot.

I think anyone else who may have masterminded this mass shooting had probably heard of Occam's Razor and would have planned it accordingly.

The Occam's Razor argument is really silly when discussing premeditated criminal acts. Most criminals try not to make it obvious they're guilty, do things to throw investigators off track, and some even try to frame other people.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: LSU2018

Yeah sorry, investigators, I don't buy the cheap crap you're selling.

We agree on that. That was an arms deal , meant to be a sting operation that went south real fast.

Why would he sell someone AR-15's that are registered under his name?

Why not get 80% lower receivers with no SN's and finish them up and build with paid in cash parts?

That theory has just as many holes as any IMO.

Paddock was the patsy. The sacrificial lamb as it were groomed for the slaughter....the cover story concocted before the operation ever even started.

Haven't you read any J. Khoury...D Ignatius...? Anything?

a reply to: CosmicAwakening

I recall the helicopter drone theory, i also recall many people posting videos saying they heard multiple shooters at different locations and now Laura Loomer was able to find evidence of LVPD or Swat speaking hours after the event to the extent of their being more than one shooter... it boggles my mind that we cant get this straightened out, y do we not question bs anymore. Why do the masses just accept crap for truth

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: LSU2018

Just playing devils advocate here, again, I'm open minded to whoever brings up better reason as to what happened.

Should that be the case, what would the motive be for a cover up?

Don't know if this has been thrown out there but obviously cover up on attempted but failed assassination of saudi prince who was on the top floor. It would have to have serious international implications to be forced to create such a massacre cover up.

Edit add: especially, a little over a month later...the CIA concludes that the crown prince of Saudi Arabia ordered the assassination of Jamal what's his name. Makes one go...hmmmm?

This makes the most sense to me... remember the video of the swat guys escorting a guy out of the hotel during all that chaos with ARs drawn? He looked very much middle eastern

This makes the most sense to me... remember the video of the swat guys escorting a guy out of the hotel during all that chaos with ARs drawn? He looked very much middle eastern

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Well, I guess that wraps up another thorough investigation.

I guess we'll just chalk this up as another example of right-wing extremism and move on. All those in favour?

I live in vegas only a couple miles from where this happen

most of the people I know are not buying it

when a large amount of non ct people are calling bs u know something is up

I'm just gonna leave this here...

President Trump met with casino magnate and GOP megadonor Sheldon Adelson and his wife Miriam at the White House on Monday, discussing the mass shooting in Las Vegas that left 59 people dead and more than 500 injured. The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported Tuesday that the meeting at the White House had been scheduled before news of the attack on the country music festival on the Vegas strip reached Washington early Monday morning. The meeting was intended as a policy discussion
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Paid involvement to push gun control, maybe?. It was a hot and heavy issue when this happened.

But nothing was fruitful from that, and it rarely is... So why would they set up the biggest mass shooting and set themselves up for possibly getting caught?

I get it, the story given to us still has a lot to be answered, and I too would like the answers, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.

I imagine someone in the FBI would want to leak, god knows that happens in almost every facet of the government.

And why stop at gun control when you could tie in extras while being able to sell the story better?

They could have planted evidence that he was an ISIS sympathizer at a time when the general public is losing interest in the wars... Or a whole host of other reasons.

I'm just playing devils advocate though, it would be silly for me to say I know one way or the other, I just come to conclusions by trying to prove everything wrong until I can't.

It should never be forgotten what Obama and Eric Holder did with the sole purpose of pushing heavier gun control. Operation Fast and Furious was a very diabolical plan that got people killed including a federal border patrol agent.

Nobody was ever punished for that, and Obama and Eric Holder should be sitting in Leavenworth Prison for doing that.

They also tried to cover that up by making that operation "Classified" which was illegal to classify it because the purpose was to hide an illegal government operation. Lots of felony crimes in that one by government, and Obama lackeys which are still in positions of authority today!

These sorts of scum bags still have the same motive to eliminate the threat of law abiding (but Armed) citizens being able to oppose some future globalist power grabs. Some might laugh at this but this threat is VERY real. Trump being elected really threw a wrench into that timeline, but it is still being pushed although a bit slower.

originally posted by: trollz
I'm just gonna leave this here...

Yea I've seen 4chan predictions.

Way too many unanswered questions that the LVMPD ignored when they closed their investigation. Without reading the FBI's report yet, I can only assume the same will be true with them, as well.

Did the FBI ever answer this little anomaly?