AP Exclusive: Anti-Maduro coalition grew from secret talks

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AP Exclusive: Anti-Maduro coalition grew from secret talks

The coalition of Latin American governments that joined the U.S. in quickly recognizing Juan Guaido as Venezuela’s interim president came together over weeks of secret diplomacy that included whispered messages to activists under constant surveillance and a high-risk foreign trip by the opposition leader challenging President Nicolas Maduro for power, those involved in the talks said.

In mid-December, Guaido quietly traveled to Washington, Colombia and Brazil to brief officials on the opposition’s strategy of mass demonstrations to coincide with Maduro’s expected swearing-in for a second term on Jan. 10 in the face of widespread international condemnation, according to exiled former Caracas Mayor Antonio Ledezma, an ally.

To leave Venezuela, he sneaked across the lawless border with Colombia, so as not to raise suspicions among immigration officials who sometimes harass opposition figures at the airport and bar them from traveling abroad, said a different anti-government leader, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss security arrangements.

The Truth about Anti-Maduro coalition? its not generic as some other claimed in MSM, it was all started by the US govt in secret talks.
All this started before the new year.
America started another regime change in Venezuela in December. All while lying that protesters and opposition were organic.

All these protests were organized.

a reply to: AtlasHawk

No sympathy for a socialist regime.


The people of Venezuela are suffering. So we're doing something about it. Might even ease the illegals pouring over our border.

a reply to: AtlasHawk

Well to play devils advocate here...if the leader of your country has a sham election and is violently quelling any opposition why wouldn't you try to avoid harm while seeking help to back you in ridding the despot starving the people and ruining the country?

It does report that they were and there was an opposition before the secret talks so what exactly do you see that says the US started the opposition?

a reply to: AtlasHawk

This isn't the first time the U. S have meddled in and messed up Venezuela, people that think socialism is the only cause of Venezuelas misery are not looking at the whole picture.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: AtlasHawk

No sympathy for a socialist regime.


The people of Venezuela are suffering. So we're doing something about it. Might even ease the illegals pouring over our border.

So we're doing something about it

Because regime changes worked so well before right? how has regime changes worked before in Latin countries? badly how have the regime changes worked out in Libya? Iraq?

The people of Venezuela are suffering

people of Venezuela were already suffering from the imposed American sanctions.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I'm curious what in this report leads one to believe the US created the opposition? They clearly reported that there was an opposition of which this particular leader (and probably others) went abroad to look for support. So if there was an opposition already how did we create it? Not saying we didn't...i have no idea if we did or didn't...i just don't see any facts here that show that we did.

Obviously this was all some US backed covert operation to upset another utopian non US nation.

The fact is the people of Venezuela were just peachy keen on eating their own pets and spending 2 weeks worth of wages on a pound of non rancid meat.

Then the big old nazi's....errr I mean US had to step in and muck things up.

a reply to: AtlasHawk

Yeah.

Socialism is awesome, it's capitalism's fault that it didn't work.

a reply to: AtlasHawk

people of Venezuela were already suffering from the imposed American sanctions.

Are you saying they weren't suffering pretty badly already due to the actions of the countries government? Pretty sure they were starving pretty hard before the sanctions.

a reply to: RickyD

I didn't read the report, I'm going off past and present history and using the U. S meddling as a given. Generally with these stories I don't take the media reports at face value, as we know the media is not truth its infotainment.

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I'm curious what in this report leads one to believe the US created the opposition? They clearly reported that there was an opposition of which this particular leader (and probably others) went abroad to look for support. So if there was an opposition already how did we create it? Not saying we didn't...i have no idea if we did or didn't...i just don't see any facts here that show that we did.

Just like how America started the Arab Spring Remember that charade?

Source


Once again it seems the propaganda seems to be working towards the general public.

The socialist regime is destroying Venezuela through by their polices!

America imposed number of sanctions on Venezuela during the Bush admin and Obama.
That hasn't changed.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: AtlasHawk

This isn't the first time the U. S have meddled in and messed up Venezuela, people that think socialism is the only cause of Venezuelas misery are not looking at the whole picture.

It actually is the whole picture... socialism paves the way for a corrupt tyrannical government.

Because that's what it does, according to history.

But try to paint it differently because you are an apologist for the ideology...

So in your own words, why did socialism fail in Venezuela?

Because, you know, it failed for a different reason this time. .

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originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: AtlasHawk

people of Venezuela were already suffering from the imposed American sanctions.

Are you saying they weren't suffering pretty badly already due to the actions of the countries government? Pretty sure they were starving pretty hard before the sanctions.

If America never imposed their embargo on Cuba today. Cubans wouldn't be suffering. Once Embargo or sanctions are placed on the people of a country there isnt much that goverement can do about them expect to bend over to that foreign power.

These sanctions wont have an effect on the governments but do have an effect on the people. Any policy that a government does will make it worse.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

So you don't actually KNOW what's going on here and you are stating opinions that are based off what you believe from things you've heard in your life and personal biases you've developed. Gotcha...just checking as I feel you have every right to that opinion I just want to be clear that it's not based on you knowing any of the facts here.

a reply to: Lumenari

There are many reasons for the failure of Venezuela, socialism is only a small part of that failure.

a reply to: RickyD

I suspect I have just as many facts as you do.

a reply to: AtlasHawk

You aren't actually answering any of the questions i brought up about your OP. Do you have any facts here that show the opinion you are feeding us is correct? Why should anyone here give your opinions any weight?

a reply to: AtlasHawk

Now you are way off topic of the OP...i think you might want to start another thread to address your feelings on Cuba.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: AtlasHawk

No sympathy for a socialist regime.


The people of Venezuela are suffering. So we're doing something about it. Might even ease the illegals pouring over our border.

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