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Italy vows to sue NGO over migrant rescue boat

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posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 04:01 PM
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Once Again The Humanitarian Pirates are at it again. This time they are bringing more African Migrants not to Europe but to Italy. Ignoring the wishes that all Italian Ports are closed for them.
Just in time before the European Elections in 2019.
The Vatican and Human Rights are demanding that Italy must accpet the migrants as its the duty of human rights.


Italy vows to sue NGO over migrant rescue boat




Italy on Friday called on the Dutch government to take in the 47 migrants stuck on the Dutch-flagged Sea-Watch 3, which is operated by a German-run charity. The boat is currently stationed off the coast of Sicily as Salvini refuses it permission to reach the shore.




"If the Dutch government is not able to control vessels, which carry its country's flag there's a serious problem: The flag should be withdrawn immediately!" Salvini said on Twitter





Several Italian cities have offered to welcome the Sea-Watch 3, but it is up to the national government - and not local mayors - to give docking rights to the vessel.




posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 04:03 PM
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Majority of those Italian cities that have offered and expressed to welcome the Sea-Watch 3 ship aren't doing their jobs they are willing to to assist Human Traffickers. When you welcome one they will keep oncoming.

It shows that those local mayors are nothing more then corrupted and have shady agendas.



posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: AtlasHawk

Lets call NGO's for what they are:

Beyond Government Control Organizations and Human Traffickers.

They plainly don't care what governments have to say.

One needs to follow the trail of funding of these groups.

They cant be bothered by trying to follow immigration laws.



posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: AtlasHawk

What is this sue BS.

Italy is a sovereign nation.

Italy has a navy...

Board the boats, sail them back to port of origin to offload people, sink the boat or confiscate it...

Confiscate or sink enough boats, they will stop real quick.

Problem solved.
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posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 05:47 PM
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This is the problem with ceding your sovereignty to a foreign organization. I hope that kind of crap never happens in America.



posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 06:17 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Thank goodness we don't have a problem with illegal aliens. The last thing we need are migrant aid NGOs bringing them to our borders.

Maybe instead of the next caravan, they all come here on ships.
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posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: AtlasHawk
The Vatican and Human Rights are demanding that Italy must accpet the migrants as its the duty of human rights.

Do you have a real reference for that?



posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 07:02 PM
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a reply to: ArMaP

Pope Francis urges end to migrant boat deadlock

Mostly i follow Italian/Local News but this is the only English version source of it.



posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: AtlasHawk
Pope Francis urges end to migrant boat deadlock

Thanks for the link.

But I didn't see any demand, and the appeals/calls that I saw were to European leaders, not to Italy, to let the ships land.


Mostly i follow Italian/Local News but this is the only English version source of it.

You can also add Italian sources, being Portuguese makes it relatively easy to understand a little Italian.



posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 07:40 PM
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Maybe the Vatican can accept all these migrants. Why shouldn't they be overrun like the rest of Italy?

From what I've been reading, Italy blames the French elites for the migrant pressure. Why can't France take them? Does this have anything to do with the recent court action against Salvini?



posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 08:59 PM
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originally posted by: toms54
Maybe the Vatican can accept all these migrants. Why shouldn't they be overrun like the rest of Italy?

From what I've been reading, Italy blames the French elites for the migrant pressure. Why can't France take them? Does this have anything to do with the recent court action against Salvini?

Remember , this is a UN mandate to all EU countries to accept more "migrants"



posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 09:10 PM
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originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: Metallicus

Thank goodness we don't have a problem with illegal aliens. The last thing we need are migrant aid NGOs bringing them to our borders.

Maybe instead of the next caravan, they all come here on ships.


I'm sure they will try something like that. It's the way to up the drama of the whole thing.



posted on Jan, 28 2019 @ 02:54 AM
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Sea Watch who are rescuing migrants are a German charity/NGO. Appreciate it's a bit of a haul, but why not drop them off at a German port?



posted on Jan, 28 2019 @ 04:28 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: toms54
Maybe the Vatican can accept all these migrants. Why shouldn't they be overrun like the rest of Italy?

From what I've been reading, Italy blames the French elites for the migrant pressure. Why can't France take them? Does this have anything to do with the recent court action against Salvini?

Remember , this is a UN mandate to all EU countries to accept more "migrants"


The UN mandate is a whole different argument. I'm not thinking it's right or wrong but only considering things from an internal EU perspective. Italy (and Malta) are just so close to Africa they get a higher percentage of these boat people than the more northern countries. Southern Italy and Sicily are flooded to the point of being overrun. Once these migrants are there, the rest of Europe resists the idea of distributing them throughout the Union. Italy is forced to take on a disproportionate share of the burden.

If French economic policies drive economic displacement from Africa, France reaps the benefits and Italy pays the cost.



posted on Jan, 28 2019 @ 07:00 AM
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here is the solution. either ship the people right back to where they came from. or ship them to either the nation of which the ship that accepted these illegal aliens on board is registered to, or the nation of the NGO and demand they take them. that should satisfy the human rights people. or since the Vatican is so interested in helping them, they ship them directly into the Vatican, which is technically it's own country (they even have walls which could help them keep them from trespassing into Italy). and let them take care of them.



posted on Jan, 28 2019 @ 07:39 AM
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originally posted by: toms54
The last thing we need are migrant aid NGOs bringing them to our borders.


Already happened with the Cubans and Mariel.



posted on Jan, 28 2019 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Yea. I keep forgetting to write sarcasm after a post. Pueblo Sin Fronteras is an amalgam of NGOs. Also, yes, the Mariel boat people from Cuba.

I forget to write rhetorical after those types of questions also.



posted on Jan, 28 2019 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: toms54


Ah, no worries, sometimes it's hard to tell.



posted on Jan, 28 2019 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
This is the problem with ceding your sovereignty to a foreign organization. I hope that kind of crap never happens in America.

Are you even paying attention at all? It's too late, it is/has already happened.



posted on Jan, 28 2019 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: toms54
Maybe the Vatican can accept all these migrants. Why shouldn't they be overrun like the rest of Italy?

Italy has an area of 301,340 km2 and an estimated population of 60,483,973. It's also estimated that there are around 500,000 illegal migrants living in Italy, representing some 0.9 % of the population. The population density is, including the illegal migrants, 202 inhabitants by square km.

The Vatican has an area of 0.44 km2 and a population of around 1,000. Applying the same percentage, 0.9%, the Vatican should receive 9 migrants. The population density is 2,272 inhabitants per square km, so it's more than 10 times as crowded as Italy. Since 2016 there are 20 refugees living in the Vatican, more than double of the percentage for Italy.

The biggest differences are the fact that the Vatican received Syrian refugees, while most illegal migrants in Italy come from Africa, and the Vatican refugees were chosen.




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