Venezuelas Maduro Given Ultimatum By European Leaders

This op is not just about Venezuela's current situation but about the fact that a British MP Alan Duncan is announcing EU foreign policy .

There are anomalies in the bbc report linked below , such as the definition of EU8 . It is about there being changes afoot in EU and world hierarchy .

European powers have warned Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro that he must call elections within eight days or they will officially recognise the opposition's claim of leadership.
Mr Maduro is under pressure after his rival Juan Guaidó declared himself "acting president" on Wednesday.
Several countries, including the US, already back Mr Guaidó as president.

Venezuela later rejected the ultimatum at a UN meeting, where divisions between world powers were laid bare.

Now it looks like the EU are joining Trump and other Western allies in calling for regime change in Venezuela . The divisions between world powers - Russia China North Korea et al. (the East/SCO) support Maduro , the West particularly America wants to see the East lose their grip in South America ie Brazil and Venezuela . We know about that division . Read the bbc article

But note this interesting part :

On Saturday, permanent Security Council members France and the UK joined Germany, Spain and other European nations in what looked like a co-ordinated demand that elections be called in Venezuela within eight days.

An EU statement was more cautious, seeking fresh elections or the bloc would take "further actions, including on the issue of recognition of the country's leadership".

Speaking on behalf of the EU, UK Foreign Office Minister Sir Alan Duncan said Venezuela needed a government "that truly represents the will of the Venezuelan people".

“The #EU strongly calls for the urgent holding of free, transparent and credible presidential elections”@AlanDuncanMP delivers joint #EU8 statement after #UNSC briefing on the situation in #Venezuela. 🇧🇪🇫🇷🇩🇪🇮🇹🇬🇧🇸🇪🇳🇱🇵🇱 📄Read the full statement: https://(link tracking not allowed)/2Tc8Hrf 78 6:17 PM - Jan 26, 2019 101 people are talking about this

When the bbc has listed Alan Duncan MP (UK) as speaking on behalf of the EU , and delivering a joint EU8 statement - what's going on ? First of all , the EU8 are just small Eastern European countries that joined in 2004 ? The UK is not one the EU8 ?

Alan Duncan is The minister of State for Europe and The Americas

But that role is performed for the British Government , not the European Union .

The now enlarged post of Minister of State for Europe and the Americas is held by Sir Alan Duncan, who is largely regarded as the second most senior-ranking Foreign Office Minister behind the Foreign Secretary.[3][4] The Minister is responsible for government policy towards The Americas (including Cuba); Europe; NATO and European security; defence and international security; the Falkland Islands; polar regions; migration; protocol; human resources; OSCE and Council of Europe; relations with Parliament; FCO finance; knowledge and technology

Leaving aside Venezuela for now , let's examine this oddity of a powerful British MP speaking for the EU on foreign policy . Let's postulate a theory :

The US democratic party (and previous republican governments) , and the EU , have been shown to have been reading from the same songsheet , as having common policy directors , as being members of the same global groups eg the CDI . Also in previous threads the globalist political conglomerate which included the Obama presidency and the EU have been becoming increasingly accepting and co-operative with the SCO . There would have been benefits to these arrangements considering for example the manufacturing power of China , useful in the West and the ongoing need for peaceful relations with the East is a requirement of good economic relations.
BUT , the factions _now in power in America and Britain are beginning to challenge both the old order at home in the West , and the Eastern bloc . Eg Trump vs Dems , and eg Brexit vs Europe . This new ACRE coallition faction has been shown to be calling the EU to heel , threatening the EU's integrity with Brexit - and now , maybe the EU has folded , and the legacies of the US and global Democratic party being soft towards the East , perhaps even in cahoots for various mutual benefits , are coming to an end ? That , perhaps , would explain why Alan Duncan is there at the UN declaring EU foreign policy , might explain why the bbc are struggling to explain how on earth that works ? - The West, under new leaderships are cleaning out those that were happy with being peaceful and co-operative towards the East , and that includes from inside the EU . Why would they be doing this ? Perhaps , to powerfully reassert US hegemony , to put again as it was once before ... America First .

The East under previous Western governments the last 20 years have been given the chance to gain ground , to group up and challenge US dominance , and Europe the chance to escape US influences , where previously they had to follow the US lead . Perhaps the EU wouldn't be making this statement about Venezuela without pressure from the faction related to Trump , and without a Brexit arranged by the same covert US influence . Multi-polarism appeals to Eastern international concerns , and Europe itself has reason to question and even reject the uni-polarism of US hegemony eg the petrodollar , not least the idea that Europe would eventually overtake the US as being the world's dominant force . It would perhaps have suited Europe to align with the SCO , for these ends , to become friends or at least mutually accepting of the Eastern powers . All this would mean that Trump - and Brexit - are the fronts of a grouping committed to reasserting US world dominance , both over Europe , and of course the East . And that's how we get reports such as today's from the bcc . This is only theory of course , it could be partly wrong , or entirely wrong , but it's supported by factual reading .

If this theory holds any water , the EU has perhaps already now been brought to heel , will now continue as subservient to the US , has now folded to the control of the UK over it's foreign policy , and this has been achieved via the threat Brexit poses to the EU institution's very continuity and perhaps some other various means such as what the Five Eyes know and can use about the leaders of Europe . Meanwhile the East will suffer further setbacks from the new far more aggressive style of American foreign policy , the East has lost Brazil to the right wing Bolsonaro , and will probably lose Venezuela too , eventually .

Militarily speaking the bcc states :

How is this crisis dividing the international community? Jonathan Marcus: Russia - one of Venezuela's few backers - has taken exception to President Trump's decision. It has warned the US not to intervene militarily. A Kremlin spokesman has said that outside interference in the country is "unacceptable". Russia has invested heavily in Venezuela's oil industry. It has close military ties with the country. Last December, for example, two Russian long-range bombers flew to Venezuela as a gesture of support for President Maduro, angering Washington, which has sought to isolate him.

Further to the above theory on the current state of world affairs , Mexico has recognised Maduro's presidency , as in , in alignment with Russia /SCO countries . Do we perhaps have an explanation then for Trump obvious desperation for walling off the Mexican border - and can we expect to see further action in similar style taken against Mexico ?

The EU is a giant front for German dominance. They have taken advantage of not having to have a military and poured their resources into manufacturing. ...while at the same time the UK tried holding onto its crumbling empire. The rest of the EU are just hangers on. With Britain leaving ...the EU will never have a military capable of anything more than small insignificant police actions.

a reply to: lakenheath24

Yet today we have a British MP declaring EU foreign policy - that's a definite oddity - and apparently- perhaps - an EU which has become a giant front for US dominance instead : a possibly very recent sea change in EU / world affairs

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Venezuelas Maduro Given Ultimatum By European Leaders

Or what? Is Europe going to invade Venezuela?

originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Venezuelas Maduro Given Ultimatum By European Leaders

Or what? Is Europe going to invade Venezuela?

Europe will do whatever the US tells them and to hell with democracy, Trump, Tusk, May, Macron, they are criminals and they're out of control

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

The US had a much bigger footprint post ww2 so I am not quite sure why you think they are somehow more prevalent today.
If anything Germany is playing for itself by aligning with Russia over the natural gas pipeline.

After all the blood sweat and tears the us has shed over the years for Europe...why should they relinquish control to China or Russia?

a reply to: toms54

Or they will further back the US at the UN , possibly creating a bilaterally sanctioned invasion scenario . That would come as one of the benefits to the US of putting the EU over a barrel using Brexit . They didn'T want to always support Trump but now they have to

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Just wondering how you felt about Trump wanting to pull the us out of NATO? Bet you were aghast about that....so what to you expect?

a reply to: lakenheath24

If anything Germany is playing for itself by aligning with Russia over the natural gas pipeline. After all the blood sweat and tears the us has shed over the years for Europe...why should they relinquish control to China or Russia?

Exactly the point , my version comes mainly only from a historian's perspective . It seems fair to say however that we'd probably sooner have a liberalish American hegemony renewed by Trump than any further advance of authoritarian socialist dictatorships . . Or a German run EU for that matter . The Venezuealns probably see things from a similar point of view .

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum

originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Venezuelas Maduro Given Ultimatum By European Leaders

Or what? Is Europe going to invade Venezuela?

Europe will do whatever the US tells them and to hell with democracy, Trump, Tusk, May, Macron, they are criminals and they're out of control

Europe will do whatever the US tells them

Sure they will . Just like they have always so far
You cant be serious
And I will not call you Shirley
This is a "You are on Candid Camera" moment , yes ?

originally posted by: lakenheath24
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Just wondering how you felt about Trump wanting to pull the us out of NATO? Bet you were aghast about that....so what to you expect?

We saw the US/EU split in NATO develop last year . That episode further demonstrates a similar story to the theory of the op . The development noted here though was that you've today got a UK official declaring EU policy , showing perhaps that if the EU _were allowing the SCO the space to breathe , they've now been brought into line supporting the US - taking a direct anti SCO stance .

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo accused Russia and China of "propping up a failed regime" and said it was time to "support the Venezuelan people immediately". "No more delays, no more games. Either you stand with the forces of freedom, or you're in league with Maduro and his mayhem," he said.

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Well yeah cuz neither China nor Russia have anyone's back in Europe. And Europe is in no position to dictate anything until they become equal militarily to the US or China/Russia. And given their reluctance to spend on military budgets...the status quo will not change any time soon. And of course the US takes advantage of such a position.

Venezuela needs someone like the late President “Chavez” with his power grips.. It is all because of President Maduro partially took out Venezuela’s gold belongings from the British banks few days ago…!!


Blaming Russia/China and generally the East is just a lame excuse..

Starting to sound like Libya again.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454
Starting to sound like Libya again.

Or like Syria in 2011.

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

An ultimatum for another Election?

The last one was rigged, you think Maduro, fighting for his life, won't do the same again?

Don´t know what the EU or "Germany"(political Berlin) has to tell Venezuela. Here they tell us all the time that is forbidden to interfere in foreign domestic policy, like Germany doesn´t want others to interfere in German domestic policy(except the USA, as US vassals), and what do they do when the USA says: Jump?

They jump.
Stupdid silly fools, those Transatlantiker called US agents in the german government.

We have enough problems in Germany, because of stupid "politicians" here and worldwide, these problem creating german "politicians" should mind their own business and not create new ones overseas.

originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Venezuelas Maduro Given Ultimatum By European Leaders

Or what? Is Europe going to invade Venezuela?

This article shows that EU and UN leaders refused to participate in the last Venezuelan election. Was there some sort of conspiracy afoot?

www.globalresearch.ca...

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

And the EU begins Operation Empty threat.

What can they possibly achieve? More sanctions, more inflation, more suffering. Show some Gumption guys, Trump did when he gave the order to destroy that nerve gas factory in Syria. If I were in Trumps' shoes I'd order a HALO mission-no not the video game, it's an acronym for High Altitude Low Opening, I'll let the experts fill in the rest.

Something needs to be done or we will have the next Zimbabwe.