originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
"It might even work with a college like class size, where a lecture hall is used with lots of students (not the normal 25-35 students in college), but
more like 50-100+"
Wow. If you think a class of 50-100 students aged 13-18 year-olds would ever work you are clearly not a high school teacher. 35 students per class
doesn't even work well at that age. I say this as someone who has taught 6th grade through university level mathematics classes, in multiple
countries, spanning class sizes of 5 to 200ish.
Well that might be the case when people are being forced to be in the class, but when it is an "electible", I suspect the people who are going to go,
are there to learn.
Make it a REAL clear rule. Students are there to LISTEN and LEARN. None of this "coddling & catering to kids" like seems to be the norm in many
Kids always complain that schools don't teach stuff that can be used in the real world, and due to this I can understand kids not wanting to pay
attention, listen, etc (and goof off).
Because it is not part of the normal cirriculum, the same rules don't apply. If kids act up, they can be kicked out of class. They are there to
learn, not show off, distract other kids, etc. Make it CLEAR in the application contract. Video record the lectures (for a few reasons, for kids who
miss class & for protection of the teacher/instructor). If a kid acts up, they miss the next class. Do it again and they are booted from the class
with no refund for the course. Let the kids tell the parents why they are being thrown out, b/c they can't behave themselves.
I know kids can be difficult, but like printers (the computer kind) the smell fear, and the more they smell of it, the less chance they will work,
pay attention or do what they are told/requested.
Look at sports coaches, especially the good ones where the kids WANT to be on the team. They are tough-arses most of the time, and if they act up,
they are suspend or off he team. Kids will fall in line if they realize they will get something out of it, and those that don't, well, that is their
We just need to stop being scared of kids and handling them with "kid gloves". This is exactly what makes them think they can get away with anything
except for the few that are just nut-jobs b/c of really lousy home lives where they get zero discipline.
If we always say "we can't do this b/c....." we would never do anything. This can be done and people (teachers) need to stop cow-towing to the thug
students (not all, just the bad ones).
One of the best things going for this is that the program could be an "out of school program" so they wouldn't have to adhere to the stupid rules that
the school does for kicking kids out of class for actin up.