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Putin Backs Maduro, As Kremlin Critics Cheer U.S. Support For Venezuela's Opposition

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posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:16 PM
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It's any wonder why Venezuela's president Maduro has managed to hold onto power for so long. Mostly because of the stranglehold he has on his country but also in part because of his big backers:


On Thursday evening, Russian President Vladimir Putin called Maduro, expressing Russia's continuing support and condemning "destructive external interference."

The Kremlin is deeply invested in the survival of Maduro's regime, having sunk both political and financial capital into Venezuela. Russia has propped up the country's rulers with at least $17 billion in loans and credit lines since 2006, often taking oil assets in return, according to an investigation by Reuters.

NPR

I get it, it's strategic. I mean how many latin american governments did the US prop up or interfer with? Think Iran contra. The Venezualan people have a mighty fight on their hands.


Meanwhile, in Moscow, the Russian Foreign Ministry issued a sharply worded statement, slamming Washington for its "total disregard for the norms and principles of international law." The lead story in Russia's official government newspaper Friday declared that "the United States is carrying out a classic coup d'état in Venezuela."


I'm all for keeping out of the matters of other countries unless it ties heavily back to America. How to a define that? well case by case. I sure as hell hope we keep out. If Russia wants to drain themselves dry in propping up that government, it's on them moneywise.




posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Of course Putin backs him, he's getting a military base in Venezuela in return.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:26 PM
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Both options are Trash, but, being the "World Police" is no ones job



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:32 PM
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America should stop being the world police force.
America turned Libya into a failed state after the regime change and intervention, much of Libya's state institutions were destroyed.
It seems America and its Military Industry Complex want more of the same chaos and endless destruction in Venezuela. This will turn to civil war really badly.

The Opposition that the west is supporting could lose.
Venezuela isn't Syria nor Iraq.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Of course Putin backs him, he's getting a military base in Venezuela in return.

And of course the west/EU backs the Opposition they want the 300,000 barrels of oil.
They pretend to care about the people.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Russian mercenaries reportedly in Venezuela to protect Maduro

Stuff hitting the fan from all directions now



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Its only matter of time before Russia starts intervening in Venezuela just to hit back at America/NATO for expanding near Russia's borders.

It will happen.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:38 PM
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posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:41 PM
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Oh forget to mention the anti war/Embellishment Trump brought back Elliot Abrams to the White House.
Elliot Abrams Has Regime Change plans for Iran to.
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posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Great, a military base, active russian presence... well I guess the US government can't talk.




posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: AtlasHawk

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Of course Putin backs him, he's getting a military base in Venezuela in return.

And of course the west/EU backs the Opposition they want the 300,000 barrels of oil.
They pretend to care about the people.

The oil we get from Venezuela can easily be replaced by Saudi Arabia. I'm sure oil absolutely does play a small factor, but I don't think oil is the reason we are meddling there. I think this is more to do about Russia having a military base in the Caribbean, the US absolutely does NOT want that.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:55 PM
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the US absolutely does NOT want that.

America has 800+ military and embassies around the world. Majority of these bases are near the Russian borders. The Americans are blockading Russia/China access to the World.
Do you think that China and Russia will just sit like sitting ducks doing nothing and allowing America to do whatever they please?


After Iraq/Libya what has America learned about interventions and regime changes? nothing it seems. They just love all the chaos and wars. No matter the political party in America, they don't really care whatever you agree or disagree with the agenda or polices.
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posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:58 PM
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Seems like America overthrows governments, whereas Russia is invited to help protect them.

If Russia can deter a full blown American Invasion of Venezuela like they did with Syria then go for it.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

UK locked down their gold reserves and is not letting them withdraw 1.2 billion in gold so its not just the USA messing with them www.cnn.com... 2019-01-26T18%3A30%3A28&utm_term=link

London (CNN)The Bank of England has blocked Nicolas Maduro's officials from withdrawing $1.2 billion worth of gold, Bloomberg reported, dealing a further blow to the embattled Venezuelan President as he tries to salvage his authority. According to the report, which cites unnamed people familiar with the matter, the gold is a significant part of the $8 billion in foreign reserves held by the Venezuelan central bank.
we asked them to do it though but its roughly 1/8th of their foreign reserves



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: Ohanka


Seems like America overthrows governments, whereas Russia is invited to help protect them.


That's a very interesting way to reframe it. Putin protecting Maduro and his corrupt dictatorship, again the Venuezlan people. I mean I'm not saying America is innocent, I've made that much clear. That still doesn't change the fact.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 05:06 PM
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a reply to: Vector99

isnt that something that would bring the Monroe doctorine into play? i mean we have kind of considered it off limits for some time ,not getting into morals of said thing but its what we have done for close to a 100 years now . i dont think usa would invade ,Brazilian trump seems to want to do that on his own same for colombia but i think that also has to do with them all sort of drilling the same oil reserves but with the shift right of some governments in latin america since trumps election this one may be handled by south american nations not the usa for a change



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: Ohanka


Seems like America overthrows governments, whereas Russia is invited to help protect them.


That's a very interesting way to reframe it. Putin protecting Maduro and his corrupt dictatorship, again the Venuezlan people. I mean I'm not saying America is innocent, I've made that much clear. That still doesn't change the fact.


I happen to believe a country has no right to remove a government from power unless it is a direct threat. By direct threat it has initiated hostilities against the country proper. Not simply vague reports of "WMDs" or other such nonsense.

The way a country is run is very much a concern of that country and that country alone. And it should be a matter of a choice if another country wishes to peruse friendly relations based on that fact but regime change to install a more friendly (read: pro-US corporate interests) is unacceptable.

For instance I have no love for the House of Saud and their rule of Saudi Arabia, but it is not our place to remove the House of Saud from power simply for the reason we take issue with their system of governance.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 05:35 PM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Of course Putin backs him, he's getting a military base in Venezuela in return.


YES and China gave them money to get to their oil reserves. Between Russia and China he still has money coming in to prop up his government.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: Ohanka


Seems like America overthrows governments, whereas Russia is invited to help protect them.


That's a very interesting way to reframe it. Putin protecting Maduro and his corrupt dictatorship, again the Venuezlan people. I mean I'm not saying America is innocent, I've made that much clear. That still doesn't change the fact.


I happen to believe a country has no right to remove a government from power unless it is a direct threat. By direct threat it has initiated hostilities against the country proper. Not simply vague reports of "WMDs" or other such nonsense.

The way a country is run is very much a concern of that country and that country alone. And it should be a matter of a choice if another country wishes to peruse friendly relations based on that fact but regime change to install a more friendly (read: pro-US corporate interests) is unacceptable.

For instance I have no love for the House of Saud and their rule of Saudi Arabia, but it is not our place to remove the House of Saud from power simply for the reason we take issue with their system of governance.


Hear hear!



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Russia didn't stop the UN Security Council talks on Venezuela nor did China.

I think they see the writing on the wall for Maduro.







 
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