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An Historic Poll: U.S. President Trump gets the wall or not before the end of January 2019?

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posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 02:15 PM
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I am creating this thread as a record of ATS members stating their opinion on whether U.S. President Donald Trump gets the border wall started by the end of January 2019. This includes the possibility of his submitting an Executive Order to begin funding/construction of the wall at the southern border between the United States and Mexico.

This is for the purpose of having an historic record, without any other distracting posts, of the clear positions of the members of ATS on this issue. I respectfully ask that we keep this civil, and respond with your answers to the questions below.
Let's try to post as adults, from every side of the political spectrum, so that we can look back at this thread after the end of January 2019 to see who was right and who was wrong. I am sure there will be a few shades of grey at that time, so I expect that it will not be a clear yes/no answer. But, it's worth a shot, for spits and giggles.



Q: As of February 1. 2019, will president Trump have the authority (from Congress or via an executive order) to begin funding the construction of border wall?

Q: If so, why?

Q: If not, why?




posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 02:17 PM
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IMO, he will get it funded.

The reason will be that the House Democrats will refuse to negotiate on that point, forcing him to declare a national emergency, and use those powers to issue an executive order for this purpose. The judicial system in the 9th Circuit will try to block this order, which will go to the Supreme Court, which will get it passed.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 02:22 PM
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I do not believe he will get funding by Feb. 1st.
I believe Republicans will try to negotiate through all of January.
I think around the 8th of February, rhetoric will start again about shutting down the government, and states of emergency.

Beyond that is anyone's guess.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

I do not think he will get it funded. I think border security will be.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 02:34 PM
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I dont want the wall but I think he will get it built.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 02:46 PM
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What is the significance of Feb 1st? He is getting the wall one way or another but given this seemingly arbitrary time limit I would have to say, no.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

in the next four days?



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: snarfbot

He's not getting the wall.... Hes getting impeached....
Thats all the plans he has for the immediate future.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

Not in 3 weeks...let alone the next 4
days...

Might want to redate your question



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 03:00 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: snarfbot

He's not getting the wall.... Hes getting impeached....
Thats all the plans he has for the immediate future.


Okay I promise to change my sig with this quote of yours when the wall gets funded. Lol.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 03:01 PM
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Um, its sort of already the end of JAN.




posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

No he will not get funding for a giant concrete wall that he wants/wanted... He may get funding for some barriers....



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 03:06 PM
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My guess is the wall will get funded(though probably not.in the next few days), there'll be a grand show of everything...then it'll get mired in increasing budgets and construction problems, the contractors will be bribed by cartels or just do the # contractors always do and # around and cut corners, the whole thing will end up ridiculously over budget and be ineffective, everyone will forget in a few months when the next big thing comes up to distract everybody and then every once in a while it'll get brought up again when someone needs to make an argument.

Oh but I guess some developers will make a lot of money. Will be interesting to see who gets the contract....
edit on 26/1/2019 by dug88 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 03:10 PM
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It’s not going to happen that fast, but I think he will build the wall. I think the majority of Americans want it, it’s one of the reasons he got elected. Personally I think it’s an excellent idea.
I have a private business, I have a fence around it for a reason, to keep unauthorized people out. Enough said.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: snarfbot

so you dont even need to worry about how to do that cuz its never gonna happen.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Thats why I asked ... in the next four days? And tomorrow is Sunday... no one is working.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: dug88

I dont think that's what trump does he's a builder he will take a personal role in this and get it done for a song relative to normal the government bureaucracy



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: snarfbot

He's not getting the wall.... Hes getting impeached....
Thats all the plans he has for the immediate future.


Just to be clear, you also said Trump will never be PotUS. Then, he wouldn't last six months, then a year.

So forgive me if your predictions aren't legitimately viewed.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 03:16 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Um, its sort of already the end of JAN.



Isn't there already a small chest compiled for it also? Not a wall per say, but a barrier.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 03:24 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

We need to first define what we consider to be acceptable for a border wall. There are already significant stretches of border barriers and wall across the southern border. Border patrol estimates 580 miles worth of border wall fencing and barriers already in place. Much of which were constructed under the 3 prior presidencies, Clinton, Bush and Obama.

Arizona

California



Now from what I've ready, Trump hasn't expressed any interest in turning existing barriers into walls or doing anything further. Trump also made it clear in his last address to the public with regards to the wall, an admission by my books, that he won't be able to build a wall through the entire southern border given geographical limitations. So that leaves us with a question mark?

How long of a wall would he have to authorize for it to be declared a victory by Trump supporters?

Would it even be a wall? Or just a barrier extension of the existing?

It's very important we clear this up.


Q: As of February 1. 2019, will president Trump have the authority (from Congress or via an executive order) to begin funding the construction of border wall?


I don't believe there's any 'emergency' Trump can make claim to with regards to the border on a number of reasons. Putting that aside, whether Trump can, I'm uncertain. From what I've read, it's possible given the powers invested in the Presidency but it's never really been used in this way. It'd be unprescedented to put it bluntly. I'm leaning to a no given his track record so far in getting push back on this wall but happy to be wrong. There had already been reports that he backed off this idea earlier given the advice he recieved. This may be due to timing though, rather than his abilities and powers.



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