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posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

That is an interesting analysis.

There is another truth in this. That is that the episode shows just how powerful Pelosi is and how squishy soft the Republican party and its pretend leadership is.

For all practical purposes, at the national federal government level, the Republican party is deader than a makrel. Trump will be out classed by Pelosi at every turn.




posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:01 AM
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Perhaps, but I don't know if that's exactly true. The Public now HATES Pelosi and will exert every possible tactic to thwart a Democrat success in any election.


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posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:02 AM
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a reply to: SocratesJohnson

I'm not 100% sure of this, but I don't think the Supreme Court has any open chambers he could broadcast from. We get to see the House and Senate on CSPAN every working day, and we get to see addresses from the Oval Office, but we never get to see inside the Supreme Court.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:07 AM
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a reply to: TonyS

Thats an interesting reply.

There is another real truth to this. That Trump has exhausted his goodwill and bipartisan attempts toward the crybaby Democrats who obviously dont have the nations best interests in mind.

So for all practical purposes, Trump needs to act in the best interest for the people who voted him in to office and ignore the continuing baby rage by the left.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:07 AM
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Because trump could foresee the health conditions of the scotus members, he waited until after the house went to the dems to ask for funding, whilst predicting a shutdown, with the intention of postponing the sotu just in the nick of time for ruth to kick the bucket...

No one is saying that. I believe Ginsberg was originally expected to make a full recovery, until sometime between Pelosi's invitation and her retraction. She likely realized that Ginsberg was not long for the Supreme Court, and decided her absence at the State of the Union address would be problematic. Trump, on the other hand, probably sees it as an opportunity. We are not privy to the information our leaders have, and it seems to me that the health of a Supreme Court Justice would be something the President would certainly be briefed on should it be problematic. Pelosi likely keeps close tabs on Ginsberg as well.

Nice try to twist things, though. I realize you need to stay in practice.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:23 AM
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a reply to: BoscoMoney

Well, I can agree with that. Trump has no choice but to play to his base; in a sense, Trump is more an Independent than a Republican and I cant calculate how large his base really is because so many who appear to be Trump supporters were people who more voted against HRC than they voted FOR Trump.

Problem now is two fold. The cry baby rage of the left has, with the victory in the mid-terms, brought back the iron fist of Pelosi......turning their faux rage into real and seasoned opposition. Meanwhile, the Repubs slither about in the shadows avoiding the cameras and offering nothing in the way of support for Trump.

The US political scene is at an inflection point. My Representitive is a Republican, (I didnt vote for him), but he votes with the Democrats 50% of the time. In reality he is Centerist Democrat. At the same time, we see the Dems being pulled ever leftward. So we have a situation where the Republicans are now Democrats and the Democrats are now Socialists.

That situaton basically leaves a great many of us with no party at all meaning we have no representatives in Congress, or government except perhaps at the State level.

I see 2020 as an election that will host a non-loser rather than a winner because I would guess that a huge number of potential voters will simply sit it out. I am not alone in this. I have been reading articles at places like the Atlantic where they wonder how a government elected by significantly less than 50% of eligible voters can govern.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:23 AM
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a reply to: WeRpeons


Whether it was Trump or any other president, it's wrong to use federal workers as pawns. It really comes down to our elected officials not doing their job!

I agree. So why does Congress get a pass when they never laid a bill on Trump's desk to sign or veto? You do realize the budget is Congress' job?


Why, because it's not a national emergency, duh! What kind of precedence would that have created down the road?

I think it is. We have thousands of deaths from Mexican opioid abuse, constant reports of everyone form innocent teens to police killed by illegal immigrants, reports of continual human trafficking detected along the border and no way to secure it, an economic system that is overloaded, and sanctuary cities operating in direct violation of Federal law... and that's not a National Emergency?

But I suppose these are: abcnews.go.com...

Kinda hard to start a precedent for something that has been used 58 times already in recent memory.


as far as the State of the Union Speech...Just more political games being played by our wonderful two-party political system.

I think I alluded to that. But the point I made is that it is not the State of the Union address that is important, it is the fact that Ginsberg would be conspicuously absent at an event where absence is unheard of without an extremely good reason and is always questioned.


TOTALLY AGREE! So why do you feel that Trump isn't part of this self-serving wealthy elite? He has a conflict of interest with his business dealings with Saudi Arabia and Russia.

Mostly because he didn't rise through the political ranks. There was no Representative Trump, no Senator Trump, no Secretary Trump, no State Legislator Trump... he came out of nowhere politically and attained the highest office in the land. He's been a politician for 2 years, while everyone else in DC typically has decades of political experience under their belts (AOC being an exception).

As far as Saudi Arabia, that's another thread. There are some very good reasons why we are so forgiving to them, unless we want 10,000% inflation.

As for Russia... give it a break. No one not suffering from TDS believes that any more.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:25 AM
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Lol, that’s all this post warrants. a reply to: TheRedneck


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posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

I'm simple.




Trump is basically giving democrats, "enough rope".


Guess what happens next.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:27 AM
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The real goal.... was to insure that the superbowl went off with out a hitch..... and that means no late flight, no cancelled flights.... no flight delays..... and that air traffic controllers are on the job.... not on the sofa.

you can bet that the Men in Suits called Washington and let it be known to everyone what they expected...... I did not donate to your campaign so that you get screw me out of the massive piles of money I am gonna make off the super bowl



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Ah! I missed that thread... sorry.

But I agree with your timeline... one exception. There has been no date even suggested yet. Tuesday after next is only something the news pundits apparently came up with. I am expecting the date to be Feb. 19, the Tuesday after the funding runs out, if the government is not shut down (that will be a requirement), giving the House the chance to try and force Trump into shutting down the government again.

If he's as smart as I think he is, he'll take that agreement, tweet like mad that he'll shut the government down again over the wall (to get the DNC to relax), then sign the bills presented him and at the end of his State of the Union address announce his declaration of a National Emergency to construct a border wall and his nominee to replace Ginsberg will be [insert name here]... after all the news organizations spent the whole speech time asking why Ginsberg isn't present.

Pelosi would faint dead away. Chucky would cry.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:33 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

I'm no politician, non American but I will say the US politicians need to hit the reset button.

I know other nations have similar issues-but this is the US-a self proclaimed "superpower" have the rest of world trying to multitask-do I facepalm or do I laugh?

Like I mentioned before, hit the damn reset button.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: Zimnydran

The Superbowl is a reasonable explanation. The government answers to big business. The NFL gets breaks from the government so they have some power. Lots of money to be made this week.

There has been concern about the Atlanta airport. Get it back on track for travel.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: Lab4Us

While I'm sure there are people whose primary job is to keep an eye on the health of the Justices, RBG has been infamous for being able to keep moving when she should have crumbled into dust. Remember, this is the first time she has ever missed oral arguments, despite having health issues for how many years now?

It is quite possible that all the plans changed just before Pelosi retracted her invitation. Until that time, everyone would be playing a different end game, because the Supreme Court wasn't in play. If Ginsberg took a sudden turn for the worse, well, that can make people look at the bigger prize suddenly on the horizon. That would explain the change in direction... remember that Pelosi extended her invitation to Trump after the shutdown started. What changed her mind if not the shutdown? And now that the shutdown is over, why is she still delaying it?

Trump as well changed his direction, delaying any National Emergency declaration. Why? What was his purpose?

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:42 AM
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Let's go full conspiracy for a sec...

RBG is in a coma...on life support.
All being hushed up.
They won't pull her plug until Pelosi can pull off her treasonous power grab to become President.

Trump (or Pence) must not be allowed to appoint an RBG conservative replacement.
edit on 26-1-2019 by IAMTAT because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:46 AM
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Most people hated “Hillary” that’s why “trump” got elected nothing else not even “Russian and President Putin”.

Asking for “second term”?? LOL.. Fat chance the “orange guy” already destroyed everything possible because of his increasing idiocy and lies.




I really do hope him and his idiot family burn in hell…. Same as “Hillary”.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:46 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TheRedneck

I'm simple.




Trump is basically giving democrats, "enough rope".


Guess what happens next.



It's very entertaining when you know how short lived their victories will be.


It's a long, long way to November 2020.




posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: TonyS


There is another truth in this. That is that the episode shows just how powerful Pelosi is and how squishy soft the Republican party and its pretend leadership is.

I believe Pelosi was powerful, when she had the FBI on her side with DNC-loyal people at the helm. That seems to have changed. Trump has his people in there now, although I am certain there are some more left to ferret out. Pelosi is putting on airs, trying to make herself appear stronger than she is; I've seen that act all my life.

It's hard to be powerful as a party when one has the threat of the FBI database hanging over their heads. I believe that's why Chuck Grassley grew a backbone and Lindsey Graham suddenly grew gonads the size of basketballs during the Kavanaugh hearings.

We'll see how powerful Trump is as this progresses. I know, you want to win. But I just want the country to win. If Trump fails, we all lose (assuming you're in the US).

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

"I don't see how it would advantage the Democrats to have the SOTU when RBG is dead."

Your analysis only works if she recovers. That was the point.

a reply to: TheRedneck
a reply to: watchitburn
a reply to: UKTruth

" Stalling for 2 years makes sense if they can do it but how much influence does the House have over the nomination process anyway?"

I know the house plays no role. That was the point.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 08:53 AM
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originally posted by: Zimnydran
The real goal.... was to insure that the superbowl went off with out a hitch.....l


"Nailed it." -Early Cyler




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