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Oregon governor supports mandatory gov’t visits for all newborns and their parents

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posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: Joneselius
This is already common practice in the UK (they're called health visitors) and it's not what you're describing. It's not some Orwellian dystopic child grab. They simply sit down with the parents and see how they're doing, especially helpful if the parents don't have a big social circle to fall back on. They give the mother information regarding child development goals and if the child is struggling with speech or age goals, they can council the parents on how to get help.

Why would you be against that?


I bet they are also trained to look around real well and see if they notice that doobie in the ashtray you forgot to hide, etc.




posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 12:41 PM
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a reply to: TheJesuit

A study, which may lead to nothing.

At the moment this is just more doom porn.

I agree that I don't want anyone coming into my home that I do not know. And especially not the government.

But let's be clear. This is not something that is being implemented at this time. And may or may not happen. If you live in that state. Maybe you should contact your representative and let them know that trespassers will be shot.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 01:53 PM
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Of course is just a study, and Facebook was once just a free application to connect with your friends, and google was once just a simple search engine, and surveillance cameras were once just for speeding, and phone tapping were just for criminals, and the home visits are just to ensure your baby well being... Nothing to fear here, just the same old chant that they have your best interest at heart and nothing else.
And look at all these monsters now. Next one wants to have the right to enter your house whenever "they" feel like, and the right to assess your parenthood skills, but what is to fear, right?
We never learn,do we?
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posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: grey580


No, they plan to do it. The study is to figure out how to scale up the pilot program.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 02:51 PM
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NO WAY IN HELL!!!!!

1990 I was eating lunch with a friend. The women in the next booth worked for our County's CYA. We overheard one of them bragging about she had a newborn removed from the Mother because of something that happened when they were in high school. My friend worked for a County Judge, she made me go with her to tell the Judge what we heard. An investigation was started and the baby was returned to the Mother. The CYS worker who did it and the one that she told were ONLY FIRED. The County paid a settlement to the Mother. If she hadn't bragged to her co-worker where we overheard, the Mother would have never gotten her baby back. There was no process to challenge CYS. The other Judges automatically take everything that CYS presents as the truth. There is no way to dispute it. This Judge was retiring and wasn't up for re-election.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: TheJesuit

That's not how it works. You know that, your what ifs are absurd.
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posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: CosmicAwakening

No. They don't look around at all. Ours came in, sat on our couch, played with the baby, gave us loads of really useful advice, had a pleasent chat and then left, after asking about milestones and the mothers healing.
Why so paranoid? She didn't look around at all. Fiven the crime rates at the moment it might actually help some kids if they did.
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posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: CosmicAwakening

No. They don't look around at all. Ours came in, sat on our couch, played with the baby, gave us loads of really useful advice, had a pleasent chat and then left, after asking about milestones and the mothers healing.
Why so paranoid? She didn't look around at all. Fiven the crime rates at the moment it might actually help some kids if they did.


Huh, so all kinds of stuff that could easily be done at the hospital before you go home?



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: ManFromEurope

Sorry the government can't go into anyone's home with out cause.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 07:02 PM
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a reply to: Joneselius

So stuff that should be given before parents go home.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 10:11 PM
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a reply to: TheJesuit

I would have loved free home health visits for my infants! And just some help even... "Oh good you're here. He needs a diaper change!"



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 07:15 AM
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no thanks, i don't think that the visit will be to make sure that everyone is ok.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 07:27 AM
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I see some supporting and some against this kind of visit. My only input is this...it sounds like it could be a beneficial thing for families who might need help/support....BUT...here is my question.

Do they want to see your entire house? Coming in and sitting down in the living room or kitchen, having this conversation, checking on the baby and then leaving...ok...BUT, what if they want to see the whole house under the guise of "safety" or "welfare" when it's really a firearms check, materials check, what are you reading, what do you believe in, etc... (bookshelf full of religious books or conspiracy books or prepper books. Gun safe. Maga hats, crucifixes, etc...)

Could this be the start of something else??? Just sayin...



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 07:27 AM
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Double post...delete
edit on 1 26 2019 by rcwilliams775 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: Joneselius
This is already common practice in the UK (they're called health visitors) and it's not what you're describing. It's not some Orwellian dystopic child grab. They simply sit down with the parents and see how they're doing, especially helpful if the parents don't have a big social circle to fall back on. They give the mother information regarding child development goals and if the child is struggling with speech or age goals, they can council the parents on how to get help.

Why would you be against that?

Yes - it is none of their business.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: Athetos
It’s just to make sure the baby has at least a minimum standard of care. Up where I live kids are neglected and worse in some seriously disturbing conditions by alcoholic parents and the like.

The entire concept is based on the religious belief (by State worshipers) that the State has some kind of parental/property interest in your children.

Sorry... they do NOT.

You are aware that children who are taken from their parents, regardless of the conditions, are often subjected to far WORSE in State care?

Sorry, but the State should never have the authority to take children from their parents, ever, period.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: TheJesuit

Police-state tactic.


"Let us observe you and your home or we will take away your children."


My state is turning into Stalin's Russia.


Vivat revolution



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 07:06 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Let's hope that you are wrong.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I know you're joking.

But if this "study" comes to pass? That, at the least, could become a frightening reality.

Don't know that it will, but we certainly don't know that it won't, either. No, thank you.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 07:19 PM
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You know, if the state of Oregon wants to make a program like this free if the parents want it, I'm cool with that.

It's that whole mandatory thing that's got my hackles in a bunch.



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