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Texas Border Sheriffs: There is No Crisis and We Don’t Want Trump’s Wall

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posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 11:55 PM
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a reply to: AtlasHawk

Here is some actual data that can be parsed :

www.dhs.gov...

"
Today, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) released the number of enforcement actions at the southwest border for the month of December. Due to the lapse in funding, U.S. Customs and Border Protection is unable to publish the enforcement actions for December on its website.

Total Enforcement Actions (individuals apprehended in between the ports of entry and deemed inadmissible at the ports of entry) for the month of December in Fiscal Year 2019 was 60,782. December marks the third consecutive month of enforcement actions surpassing 60,000.

The United States Border Patrol apprehended 50,753 individuals (83.5% of all enforcement actions) between the ports of entry on the southern border. The total number of individuals deemed inadmissible for entry at the ports of entry was 10,029.

Key statistics:

The total number of family unit aliens (FMUA) apprehended in between the ports of entry and deemed inadmissible at the ports of entry: 31,901

In Fiscal Year 2017, CBP averaged 13,210 family units and unaccompanied alien children each month – in Fiscal Year 2019 CBP is now averaging 31,188 a month. That is a 136% increase.
The total number of FMUAs apprehended in between the ports of entry was 27,518. December was a record-breaking month for FMUAs apprehended at the border.
FMUA apprehensions through December total 75,794 – higher than 5 out of the last 7 years FY totals – exceeding all but FY16 and FY18, but currently tracking 253% higher than FY16 and 280% higher than FY18 for the same time frames.
Of FMUA apprehensions in December, 95% are from Northern Triangle. 96% for the first quarter.
For the first quarter, 77% of family units are from Guatemala and Honduras alone.
This month marks the third time FMUA apprehensions exceeded Single Adult apprehensions.
Apprehensions from Guatemala exceeded Mexico for the third consecutive month (only happened four times) and Honduras has exceeded Mexico for the second consecutive month.
The total number of unaccompanied children apprehended in between the ports of entry and deemed inadmissible at the ports of entry: 5,121

Total number of unaccompanied children apprehended in between the ports of entry: 4,766
Total number of unaccompanied children deemed inadmissible at the ports of entry: 355
The total number of single adults apprehended in between the ports of entry and deemed inadmissible at the ports of entry: 23,682

Total enforcement actions for single adults fell by 10.87% in December from November."

And another:

www.dhs.gov...

"Human Smugglers/Traffickers

July 16, 2018 : DHS Directorate uses data analytics to target human smugglers.
July 16, 2018 : U.S. Border Patrol agents discover an assortment of narcotics during a failed smuggling attempt worth over $673K.
July 16, 2018 : 3-year-old, abandoned by human traffickers, rescued along river by US border Patrol agents
July 14, 2018 : ICE agents arrest 18 human smugglers, 117 illegal immigrants in Texas, New Mexico
July 14, 2018 : CBP identified a stash house in Rio Grande Valley attempting to smuggle 54 illegal aliens from Guatemala, Honduras, India, Mexico, El Salvador, and Ecuador.
July 11, 2018 : Border Patrol agents across the Rio Grande Valley arrested four gang members and two sex offenders including active members of MS-13 and the 18th Street gang.
July 5, 2018 : Border Patrol Agents Rescue 64 Illegal Aliens Trapped in Tractor Trailers
July 2, 2018 : U.S. Border Patrol agents assigned to the Falfurrias Checkpoint arrested two United States citizens attempting to smuggle 12 illegal aliens inside a tractor-trailer.
July 2, 2018 : Border patrol finds two teen human trafficking victims with migrant group
July 2, 2018 : CBP Officers at Laredo Port of Entry This Weekend Apprehend Man with Warrant for Sex-related Offenses Against a Child
June 30, 2018: NYT describes the perils of an El Salvadorian immigrant’s attempt to cross the U.S.-Mexico border with assistance from professional human traffickers whose services cost more than $12,000. Traffickers forced 70 illegal immigrants into a “stash home,” in Texas where they deprived the immigrants of food and water for 36 hours.
June 26, 2018: CBP arrested a US national attempting to smuggle an unaccompanied 8 year old alien from Honduras across a checkpoint near Falfurrias, TX.
June 20, 2018: CBP rescued a 6-year-old illegal alien from Costa Rica who had been abandoned by a smuggler near Lukeville, AZ, in temperatures over 100F.
June 19, 2018: Smugglers led ICE agents on a high speed chase that resulted in the death of 5 illegal aliens when their driver crashed near Eagle Pass, Texas. The SUV was carrying 13 suspected illegal aliens in total, including a juvenile, and the survivors were hospitalized.
June 18, 2018 : Kirstjen Nielsen Addresses Family Separation at Border: Full Transcript
June 15, 2018: CBP agents found 10 illegal aliens near Tucson, AZ, in a home with no air conditioning, littered with trash, decaying food and human feces.
June 8, 2018: CBP discovered six illegal aliens trapped inside cabinets in the back of a truck. The cabinets were closed with ratchet straps and had no air circulation on a hot day.
June 5, 2018: The bodies of three illegal immigrants who had been abandoned by smugglers were discovered in the Rio Grande Valley near Edinburg, TX in separate incidents.
May 11, 2018: CBP agents arrested a convicted sex offender from California who was attempting to smuggle four illegal aliens from Mexico west of Yuma, AZ.
May 8, 2018: CBP discovered a severely dehydrated illegal alien that claimed to have been assaulted by a smuggler on a ranch near Laredo, TX.
April 7, 2018: CBP agents discovered 9 illegal aliens near Laredo, TX, over the course of two days. Two of the illegal aliens had been abandoned by smugglers and one was severely dehydrated and in need of immediate medical attention.
April 2, 2018: CBP agents near Tucson, AZ rescued an injured and severely dehydrated 34-year old illegal alien from Guatemala who had been abandoned by smugglers, along with 11 other illegal aliens, two of whom had to be treated for dehydration.
February 2, 2018: A recent DOJ partnership with Mexico has resulted in federal prosecution of more than 50 international defendants for various roles in trafficking women and young girls. In 2017, more than 500 defendants were convicted for various human trafficking offenses.
October 5, 2017: Young women and girls face extraordinary risk of sexual violence on the journey to the United States. 60-80% of the women and girls who cross Mexico to get to the U.S. border are raped along the way.
July 28, 2017 : The deadly toll of human smuggling and trafficking in the US
April 21, 2017: Eight Mexican drug cartel members were convicted for participating in the trafficking of nine women, two minors, and the prostitution of a twelfth woman. The young Mexican and Guatemalan women were recruited on false promises, smuggled into the United States and sold into sex slavery in various states.
Dangerous Means of Transportation"
....... more at link




posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 01:25 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

The wall is only part of it. In fact, I don't much care for the wall as the "be all, end all" of solving this issue. It will help, of that I've no doubt.

More comprehensive, even punitive, measures to prevent people from profiting from hiring of illegals should take place. Not more laws, but enforcement of those already on the books.

Cities giving shelter to illegals should face the loss of all, not just some, but all federal aid. Massive fines. Massive loss of funding, along with a wall...? Mightn't that have an effect??

Finally, but only as a last resort, military placed on the border. Not a popular notion, and one I don't much like, either...but if it comes to it, then it should be done. If that means bringing troops home from the ME, or Europe, or Korea, or where ever they are, so be it.

But all that hinges upon our elected leadership pulling their collective fingers out and, oh I don't know, doing their jobs for the citizens of this country? Novel concept, eh?

But that prayerful hope hinges upon us, as citizens, pulling our collective finger out of, not only our asses, but our ears, as well.

Our southern borders are a sieve. ...and a leaky one, at that. We've all heard the horror stories about the struggles of the illegals with not only the Coyotes, both two and four legged, and the extremely hostile terrain. If they know that the wall, whether an actual one, or a more metaphorical one made up of BP/soldiers, maybe they don't come. If there is punitive punishment for those who hire, and shelter, them, maybe that takes away some of the incentive to hire them--again, removing a reason to make that horrific trek.

No, that "Wall" isn't a magical silver bullet that'll suddenly make everything better. It is, however, something that'll help reduce the numbers.

Good fences make good neighbors.
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posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 01:43 AM
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a reply to: Onlyyouknow

Thank you for that link, the numbers are rather shocking. I am impressed how the liberals in America continue to deny the crisis at the borders.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 01:45 AM
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a reply to: seagull




No, that "Wall" isn't a magical silver bullet that'll suddenly make everything better. It is, however, something that'll help reduce the numbers.

Whats more need isn't just a wall but making sure the coast guards does their job at the borders if any Coast Guards is bribed by traffickers or NGOs they should be arrested and charged for assisting human traffickers.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 01:47 AM
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Why can't they simply not go through the process set in place to make sure they will be fit to be within our borders?
Our great country was founded on diversity and immigration. Is it too difficult to play by the rules? I'm struggling to see where the process is too difficult. It may take some extra time and effort, but most of the best things in life do.

Earn it if you are worthy.
edit on 25-1-2019 by Illumimasontruth because: Zpelinng



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 01:52 AM
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a reply to: AtlasHawk

Absolutely!

Anyone from our side of the border who's knowingly making money off this sort of thing, and that includes those hiring 'em should pay a hefty price. Prison. Fines. Both.

Say a company like, as an example, not saying they're doing this...I don't wanna get sued...The Acme Novelty Company of Walla Walla, Washington (that was an actual business-FYI) hired illegals to work the assembly line... Would a fine of say, oh 25% of their gross yearly income maybe have an effect on future hiring?? I think it might. The share holders surely wouldn't much care for that... Or 5-10 in a federal penitentiary? Or a combination of both?

Say a city like Seattle with mucho govt contracts at Boeing, and the various high tech outfits that live there--loses federal funding for allowing illegals to live and work in the city?

That'd have a decided effect I'd think. Voters wouldn't much care for that, either... Might wake a few of us up.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 01:57 AM
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Also Consider: Lower Crime = Less Need for Sheriffs.

Similar to: Cure Cancer = Less Need for Doctors.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 02:03 AM
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a reply to: highvein

Exactly , I grew up in Eagle pass, and even way way back then most of the law enforcement on both sides were being paid and bought off by smugglers.

Im sure now , with the rise of the cartels and their almost endless supply of money, its even worse.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 02:26 AM
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a reply to: SailorJerry

I wonder how many of us are shocked at that thought??

Not too many, I'm sure.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 02:50 AM
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a reply to: seagull

I agree with much of what you say there and the solution clearly is in punishment for businesses that hire illegals, that and legalize marijuana the vast majority of illegal immigration from the southern border will no longer be an big issue.

The problem I have with that is it's not really how the world works, the ruling class are very happy the ways things are.

To make such a change isn't as simple as the enforcement of hiring laws, farmers would need to be subsidized far more heavily to pay for increased labor costs, American people themselves will have to fill those roles of the illegals, hard work at low pay. Already this is messy .

At this point the whole system is intertwined with illegals and changing it will come at at very high cost.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 02:53 AM
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I get it. It's easy to see why the MSM and the Dems only harp on the immigration angle of the wall ( not acknowledging the "illegal" part ) to prey on people's emotion.

But we know thats only one part of the pie. The wall is meant to fight human, weapon, and drug trafficking as well.

What I don't get is why POTUS or the conservative media doesn't highlight this! There are plenty of statistics on hand to back it up. And those types of trafficking are unspinnable by the MSM. So why not speak up about it?
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edit on 25-1-2019 by AgarthaSeed because: Bad grammar night



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 02:56 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: AtlasHawk

One of the few Trump-hating ATS members started a thread on this subject about 2 weeks ago...after Trump's visit to the Tx-Mex border.

When it was determined that those opposing REAL border security were crooked law enforcement, and politicians, who are receiving $$$ and "Favors" from Cartels, Traffickers, Drug Dealers, that subject died quickly.

It's speculated that many members in Congress are "on the take" in this regard, as well.


Not really, but their friends and contacts that donate them to got to be are



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 04:21 AM
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Well , dang
I guess that negates all the press reports I have read where the authorities were demanding the wall
Some folks need to make up their minds.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 06:59 AM
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Rep. Will Hurd (R-Texas) whose district covers roughly 700miles of the southern border says the same thing. He maintains that there is no crisis on the southern border and that the whole thing is a myth fabricated by Trump to get his Wall. There are far better and far more effective ways to spend border security money then on Trump's monument to himself.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 07:11 AM
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a reply to: AtlasHawk

Is there some where on the border that has no patrols, but would be possible to build a wall on? Obviously, you can't build a wall on a river, and you cannot disturb a river because that would cause unacceptable and likely unforeseen consequences to both the terrain and the things that live on it. But quite a bit of that border is too rugged to construct anything on at all, without using waaaaay more resources than would be economically viable?

ALSO... since the American government is the entity which gains the most from the sale and transport of drugs and guns in both directions across the border, and has intelligence level connections to the cartels themselves, often working in partnership with them over their history to boost the intelligence agencies black budgets, and facilitate certain extra judicial renditions of persons of interest from US soil to nations where the individual can be "questioned" without necessarily having to pay attention to their rights, what real benefit is there to the American machine, of actually cutting off that supply route?

Furthermore, since drugs and guns are already, routinely transported OVER what border protections are currently in place, either by being carried by climbers, flown by drone, launched by slingshot or transported via underground tunnel, exactly what difference are you expecting any of this wall crap to make?



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 07:20 AM
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Texas Border Sherrifs are welcome to make career changes anytime they are unhappy with their careers.....they are just EMPLOYEES....so who is trying to make it seem like they are anti-Government????…..that is a kind of domestic trouble making now isn't it???....why yes it is.






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posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 07:23 AM
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Contrary to all the evidence that indicates otherwise?

Well then, it seems we're at an impasse, doesn't it?

Ignore the evidence of the past two, almost three decades. Ignore the fact that the Democrats who are so very, very opposed to this wall, or any increased border security at all seemingly, were, not all that long ago, very fervent advocates of things being quite the opposite...

Gee, I wonder what that's all about??

But, hey, Orange man bad, so by any means necessary, we'll defeat him. Right?

So the next illegal alien that murders someone will just be another egg broken for the omelet of defeating Trump? Cool.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 07:28 AM
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Just so I'm understanding y'all: LEO's that agree with you = Good. LEO's that don't agree with you = Bad.

I applaud your rigorous logic.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: whywhynot
a reply to: AtlasHawk

Yup, the Brewster County Sheriff doesn’t want the wall



Maybe border States should legalize marijuana. No point in smuggling it in if you can just go to the store and buy it....and it wouldn't be #ty mexican ditch weed..win/win

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posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 08:14 AM
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originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: AtlasHawk


Sounds like someone doesn't want border security interfering in their bribe money. Maybe an investigation is needed.


That's probably actually 100% accurate. People in authority down there get offered ridiculous amounts of money to look the other way.




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